krakua

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Problems and solutions for running this game on Linux.
  • .swf in Ruffle shows a bunch of random UI elements and with broken game states. It's very broken. I tested it with a few other games. For example, it can't run MNOG2 at all. It just doesn't render most of the game objects. And shits out a bunch of errors in debug console. Same with BTD.
  • .exe on Wine regularly freezes the system. It is basically .swf bundled with Adobe Flash Player 11 .exe. Works much better with GE-Proton than regular Wine.
 
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SarahGheist

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Really? I read them when I was 14 or 15, and so did a few other friends.

Not trying to brag or say you're wrong, I'm just surprised. LOTR is even tougher IMO, but that gets read by teenagers too (or at least it did back in my day (oldmanyellsatcloud.jpg))
To say that the books are too long for today's market is just bullshit. If a publisher told you that, they were lying or clueless. If you check out the list you'll see that, length-wise, Dune is pretty typical for the genre, and that a number of popular modern SF/fantasy books are considerably longer, both volume-by-volume and as a whole. (Take the Malazan series, for example.) And there are LitRpg books that dwarf the Dune series by word count.

As for the writing, I don't think anybody should try to mimic Frank Herbert's style (just like I don't think you should try to mimic Kurt Vonnegut or Anthony Burgess's Clockwork Orange style), but, again, there are still successful genre books that are written in fairly challenging language, and the gimmick of throwing new readers into an unfamiliar world with lots of strange words that they have to pick up and make sense of has not gone out of fashion. Cf. Paolo Bacigalupi, N.K. Jemisin, Jeff VanderMeer, Cory Doctorow…

Also, if Dune was too difficult to read, it wouldn't be a best-seller even today.
It's not the length modern publishers have a problem with. It's the words used. Same for the original unabridged version of the Hobbit and the LOTR series. You won't find them anymore anywhere because they were deemed to difficult for [average] readers. Only the edited and abridged versions are currently available, and the wording used is often VERY different from the original books. They've simply been changed that much in order to appeal to modern readers. The Silmarillion is probably the best example of how Tolkien actually wrote his books, if you can find an unabridged version. As for the Dune series being considered tedious and not something modern publishers want? It's true. Book length isn't the problem, but wording is. Not sure I can explain that better without doing citations, and I'd rather not. Most publishers want novels that are half as long and much faster paced with easy to comprehend vocabulary. Basically around 160k words or so.
 

Tromilka

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Same for the original unabridged version of the Hobbit and the LOTR series. You won't find them anymore anywhere because they were deemed to difficult for [average] readers. Only the edited and abridged versions are currently available, and the wording used is often VERY different from the original books. They've simply been changed that much in order to appeal to modern readers. The Silmarillion is probably the best example of how Tolkien actually wrote his books, if you can find an unabridged version.
Well, this proves that you are full of shit. Literally none of that is true.

The common modern edition of The Hobbit differs somewhat from the first edition because it was revised by Tolkien to fit better with The Lord of the Rings (most famously by changing it so Gollum doesn't wager the ring in the riddle contest with Bilbo, but he also removed some modern-day references). It has not been abridged or edited to make it easier "for modern readers." (It was always a children's book.)

TLOTR has gone through several editions in which Tolkien made small tweaks and fixed some inconsistencies and other errors and typos (later editors have also made further corrections, mainly to things like punctuation and capitalization). But these are very minor changes: the book reads substantially the same as the first edition. It is categorically false that it has been abridged or changed because it was "deemed too difficult for readers."

The Silmarillion is the one book "by Tolkien" that actually has been been extensively edited and abridged, because he never finished writing it: it was pieced together (with edits and abridgments) by his son, Christopher Tolkien, based on lots of different, inconsistent manuscripts. There is no unabridged version, but most of the separate sources have been published in the History of Middle-Earth series (+ Unfinished Tales), which collects Tolkien's incomplete drafts, again edited by Christopher Tolkien. (Christopher also edited standalone, longer versions of some of the major stories included in the Silmarillion.)

Tolkien wrote different books (and unpublished stories) in different styles and for different audiences.

Book length isn't the problem, but wording is. Most publishers want novels that are half as long
Do you not even notice that you're contradicting yourself, or are you a troll?
 

zzyyxx

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It's criminal that there's still no option to kiss Jessica OR get her pregnant. Balsamique if I ever see you we're gonna have a real meeting of the minds, you and I...
 
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