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hakuna-matata

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The Bella path disappointed me a bit since it's also my main. I was expecting a bit more drama from Jill considering MC was romancing her too. Jill has more or less the same reaction on every path. The Bella path felt a little short.

Also, Bianca has the same reaction whether you grabbed her ass or not. I was hoping she would have brought it up.
 

KingCoomba

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Hey loving the new episode, I've been playing the manwhore (others) route, but when josy builds the fort and tells the MC she still likes him he imediatly says he's over her, is there a way to pursue the relationship if so can anyone tell me what triggers this response and in what episode? Thanks
Not in ep10. Maybe in future eps, who knows.
 

jaden_yuki

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Hey loving the new episode, I've been playing the manwhore (others) route, but when josy builds the fort and tells the MC she still likes him he imediatly says he's over her, is there a way to pursue the relationship if so can anyone tell me what triggers this response and in what episode? Thanks
you have to say to derek that you still have feelings for josy (ep 5)
 

ZenoMod

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I highly doubt they would charge DPC $100,000, but even if they did, he could afford it. He's made well over a million on this game, even if you ignore steam and gog sales.
Hopefully not off topic... so... i watch Wrestling occasionally. Not much, only sometimes. One company used "the final countdown" from Europe for an entrance of a Wrestler. Just playing this song ONE TIME costs 100.000$ one single time...

Well, i dont want to do the math on adding that song to a videogame where it can been played all the time... but... lets say... if you have that kind of money, your grandchildren will not need to work in their lifes.
Well, it's a different things.

They played it once but they _broadcasted_ it.
How many people reached at once?

And very likely the wrestling company maintains the right of rebroadcast the video every time they want without paying 100k each time.

For a videogame is something similar. It's not a single broadcast, but several different plays... It's like selling a CD.

Anyway, who license a music for a specific use I guess makes an estimate of the number of people composing the audience and of the cash flow of the project to make a plausible offer.

In this specific case, probably they would refuse not to be associated with a porn game, but should they accept they would probably make a reasonable offer for the cash flow generated by the game.

(If I was the one making 1 million with a game which is primarily story and rendering I would not pay 10% of my gross income to license a single song)
 
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ZazzyBoi

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Me too, dude.
It seems all of us too slow even in normal mode will have to start a new playtrough without minigames... or keep losing against Troy again and again and again :(:(
Maybe your stats are shit, cuz I went in on hard mode and had no issue with Troy. Or maybe you're overthinking. Just do any hit on offense and try for dodges only on defense.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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For me I don't see a problem with what Josy did she has every right to be upset she wants MC and will do anything to make that known. I love this episode it drops a big fucking nuke on the brain dead idea she has no story Josy has a great and this episode proves what I been saying all along. Josy is going through some things inside I wouldn't want to be on her bad side. I think there will be big reward for being with her and if your waiting for her.
Thing is, if you into casual girls next door, than it works with you.
But for me, another reason why I my lost interest in her.
S she really has no personal story and Josy only works together with Maya. She's too ordinary. In my personal experience, with such “average girls” everything ended quickly.
Let's look at the dates with the girls in Ep.10:
-Sage, it seemed like there were casual dates, but Sage is very intelligent and educated and you can develop a philosophical, highly intelligent conversation with her (just don’t press her about personal things, Tremolo!)
-Bella. Yoga, beer-pong for a bet, and the best sex scene in the episode.
-Quinn. A risky adventure with crime, a cabriolet ride through the city at night.
With awesome music. A feeling of something forbidden.
-Even Jill, it was funny how MC was trying to loosen her up a little and get her hooked on rock music. In some ways it's ironic, Lana, her sister, brought home some rocker and the lower classes. Where one sister goes, so does the other.
-The conversation with Nicole gave me warm, glowing emotions. I'm the same age as Nicole and I can easily understand her.
-I don’t know how to feel about Lily yet, all this “rolling for a status” is a little strange. Lily is an even more closed book than Quinn, and until I understand what she’s hiding behind herself, I can’t make up my mind.
-Hanging out with Zoey is an attempt to return to the past, restore the relationship, tension and a lot of unspoken words that need to be said to each other.

What did we get with Josy? We just sit in her room with pillows, gossip about others and look at pictures on the phone. Compared to everything else, this is dull for me.


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ffive

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It was like a lightning strike. Josy is looking for women's hobbies on the Internet to fill out her Twitter profile. That is, she doesn’t get carried away with anything.
To me the intention behind this scene was that Josy is very insecure about herself and prone to peer pressure (she pretend-jokingly admits as much when she agrees to spend the night in tent later) It took just one random guy negging her at the DIK party to start question herself, delete her profile and try to look up what's considered "suitable" hobbies that random assholes won't mock her about.

Oscar has done to her what you're very much also doing in your post -- accuse her of being "just a basic bitch" and she might not show that, but it cut her to the bone because it's likely at some level that's how she views herself, that she's someone who has really nothing special going for her.
 

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I highly doubt they would charge DPC $100,000, but even if they did, he could afford it. He's made well over a million on this game, even if you ignore steam and gog sales.
Well, it's a different things.

They played it once but they _broadcasted_ it.
How many people reached at once?

And very likely the wrestling company maintains the right of rebroadcast the video every time they want without paying 100k each time.

For a videogame is something similar. It's not a single broadcast, but several different plays... It's like selling a CD.

Anyway, who license a music for a specific use I guess makes an estimate of the number of people composing the audience and of the cash flow of the project to make a plausible offer.

In this specific case, probably they would refuse not to be associated with a porn game, but should they accept they would probably make a reasonable offer for the cash flow generated by the game.

(If I was the one making 1 million with a game which is primarily story and rendering I would not pay 10% of my gross income to license a single song)
No they cant re-broadcast it without paying up again...

and the broadcast reached about 250.000 people, visitors not included.

I dont have a full gist of how many customers DPC got with being a dik... but surely not much more than 500.000. Steamstats put out a total gross of 3,1 Million $ for about 3000.000 customers, Make it a double for the rest via patreon and gog (which would be very generous cause gog is not even close to steam and you cant purchase the game everywhere... for example, you cant buy it in germany in any other way than patreon, at least i dont know another way, gog and steam blocked the game here). So... maybe 6 million?
People tend to exeggerate how much DPC made with the game. Its a lot, but not enough to go around and pay up for a green day song.

In case of Video games... lets go for this... Star Wars Jedi Fallen order had to pay over 10 Million $ (they only hinted the real numbers, they dont tell them really, but its good enough) only for the soundtrack... and here it comes, there arent even original Stars Wars themes in it, only just a tiny little bit, maybe 30 seconds.

Well... yeah... no, to get the license for a Green Day song would be really expensive, and if DPC wanted to make a profit out of that game, well, yeah no way like that...

And... those licenses run out normally, you have to renew those deals too.
 
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atrebor68

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For me the best part of this last update is the love story of MC parents, Lynette and Neil.
Great writing.
 

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Incidentally,

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LiBrian is totally one of the guys posting here about wanting to tap Karen's ass, isn't he. :cautious:
On JM path, Becky asks to be the fourth in their relationship. Oh, how happy would I be if KRJ gets accepted as the fourth instead! She was certainly thirsty for MC during Ep. 9 party. Maybe KRJ and Maya will bond in Advanced Gender Studies ...
 
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Geralt From Rivia

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I posted something alike (after your post but before seeing it). I still like Josy, but on the Others' path. I think she'll dump Maya and join the party. I don't take her seriously anymore (Well... I never did... But if I were the kind of guy who takes those girls seriously, she'd be excluded from the possibilities... In fact, I'm like 8 or 80... Either others or Jill's path... The rest is just out of curiosity...).

By the way, good luck playing your extra 17 paths. After playing my main one (others path, sub-route Lily), the second one (Sage), besides what's already in every path, felt like it was just chit-chat and a scene that, though good, I could watch in the gallery. That's what I did for the 3 remaining paths initially, but, as I'm a curious guy, I ended up playing them. The only one I really enjoyed was Jill's. Bella's scene was amazing but I'd be content to see it in the gallery (as I said with Sage's), and the Maya & Josy path, I guess because they've already played a huge role in the main plot part of the episode, was like nil... I thought about playing Quinn, and Sarah & Melanie sub-routes of the others, but, since I don't think there's any relevant variation in this episode, I'll let them for the future.

I liked the party when I played it first on the Others' path (either with mushies or no mushies variations, but with mushies it's funnier), but, when I played again in the committed paths, it was a drag... I complained about having to choose a commitment at the end of the episode (I wouldn't say branch as the game is branched, at least, since episode 4) due to its incompatibility with some combinations of the affinity system (most precisely, the DIK affinity), but I think the problem runs deeper. I think it made replayability worse, since what is left in the routes after you take what is universal to all of them is, with some exceptions, just chit-chat and romantic/dating corny stuff. Of course, if you play your romantic path first, since it'll be mixed with the main plot parts, it'll feel less like that, but when you play your secondary routes, unless you part of the niche attracted to that stuff, you'll feel the drag. Moreover, I think the scheme of things, of free roams and parties, works better when you're non-committed... When you've already chosen a lover, those things start to make less sense...

I've started to wonder how the game will creatively survive until the end of season 4 (I say creatively because financially I don't doubt it can). Of course, in theory, the game could go on forever, until graduation or even after that, but, from the plot that we have until now, I think it's leaning to a conclusion that, if it extends for more than two episodes, I think it'll start to get depressing (besides, I don't think there's plot material to extend it more than that). Due to what happened at the end of this episode, if the next episode is filled with light parts and jokes, it'll be very, very awkward (unless the drama is solved at the beginning of the episode, but then it'll be a shitty exploitative cliffhanger).

P.S.: Geralt, sorry for the digression. I started to comment on your post but then went on to write more about my general feelings about the episode and the future of the game. I hope you don't mind.

EDIT: P.P.S.: I digressed so much that I forgot about that... Josy's not technically a "yandere"... She may be a spoiled li'l brat complaining about something she would do herself in an alternate timeline, but "yanderes" do crazy stuff, beat people, kidnap her "loved" ones, and so on... I don't think she'll go that far.
I want to add something. In this episode, Jill's route was...not as bad as I expected. I was waiting for the next portion of the circus with clowns like in Ep.9 and getting ready to make memes with it like a year ago. But everything happened differently. From a writing standpoint, this is some good character development. Of course Jill is just coming out of her bubble and there is a lot of vanilla that is not for me at all, but there were some cute moments.
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Sex started to evolve too and something happened that people made memes and laughed about
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Good moments:
- Jill and MC are looking around Lana's room and our Tremolo was delighted because they could have a lot in common.
-We learned that the Bianca family made a deal to sell this mansion from the Lynette family to the Royce family. That's why Lynette lives in that hole in the diary's memories.
- MC lets Jill listen to rock music.
-Bianca is great with this tease.


Another proof that Jill is developing, she stops being so naive and believing everyone. When you’re not on her route, it’s obvious, because she doubts MC’s words that he’s innocent and Tybalt did it all. This is correct, because you cannot take everyone’s word for it and she has already been deceived once.
 

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Something that can be interesting with Josy on a Sage Path is that she is the type of general girl that Fuckface tell Sage on the date. Her hobbies where general hobbies the one that MC's speak about, and it can be interesting to see what new hobbies she will have. Will they still be general because she searched them on internet or will they be helpful to make her extra attractive for Sage's path MC. It would be an interraction that would be specific to Sage Path.

Still don't really understand why people though that Josy didn't had a storyline before this episode, for me her storyline was to see if she will follow completely in her dad footstep, to see if she will decide to stay in her current relationship with Maya and try to make it better or go in a relationship that she know she will be happier in, well in all the others paths than J&M.

But thanks to this update, I really want to do a route where Fuckface pursue all the LI to see how each LI react to his choice.
 
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