Geralt From Rivia

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Steam is not meaningful for me. The reason is that Being a DIK is not available for purchase on Steam in some countries. This excludes cultural groups that have a different value system and thus skews such statistics.

Actually, you can't trust any statistic because you can twist and turn it however you want.

The best thing is and remains that every player plays BaDIK the way he wants to and forms his own opinion.
Let me guess. Germany?
 

Ottoeight

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That may be the point, Zoey in Fuckface's eyes is fundamentally different to Zoey in the interlude. The way Zoey is coming back into the story will be different than how the Zoey that Fuckface remembers would enter the story.

Zoey from Fuckface's memory would stroll straight into the story and if she wanted Fuckface back would not care who she hurt in her pursuit of him. Zoey from the interlude will have conflicting emotions, especially if Fuckface isn't on the others branch.

Zoey from Fuckface's memory was a confident outsider, however we now know she likes to make friends, but also now one of those friends betrayed her so she's going to be timid around the girls in college, if you threw the phone then Zoey would probably be putting on a front to avoid getting close to new people, if you don't throw the phone then Zoey would be scared to do so.
I have to call bullshit on this, given we had zero information about Zoey's relationship with her grandma, the reasons she left for San Diego and a number of other elements you even list yourself, which were only shown in the interlude. So we absolutely didn't "already know" these things.

You didn't personally find these things interesting, that's fine. But i strongly disagree with the idea that negative things we learn about characters aren't interesting. Flaws and shortcomings are vital in character building.

It's still the same girl. She's still the person who has taught the MC things. Except now thanks to the interlude you know more about her, and you've seen other side(s) of her. But these extra things you've seen aren't to your liking and contradict your initial impression of her; so it seems you'd rather they didn't exist, and call them worthless.
She's not the same girl.

The whole story is told by MC talking about his past, except the Interlude, which is told by Zoey. That's why the Interlude is the Interlude, and this is why the Interlude is pointless in terms of the narrative.

Whole story = told by MC
Interlude = told by Zoey
 

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I wouldn't compare the steam results to the f95 results
for instance, steam people paid for the game to start with
meanwhile, all of us here are a bunch of pervs playing for free but arguing about it the most

from what I've heard about DPC's discord server, you'll get attacked from literally everyone if you say DPC is leeching and lots of those people actually support him on patreon. yet most of the people who write accusations of such things on f95 have never supported DPC with a single cent and would rather HURT HIS BUSSINESS

so, basically, how I'd see the situation
- steam results come from a bit more sane people who perhaps have something better to do than argue about steven and goblin queens
- f95 is... go through just this thread. no need to go looking for "INCEST???" or "HAREM???" people. and draw your own conclusions for the community here
and the rest of us obviously like it that it's that way. otherwise we wouldn't be around.

tl;dr - steam: people, f95: not. don't compare.
Honestly, I think anyone who loves this game is playing different gameplays. I've been playing a DIK path and a CHICK path - at least - since episode 1, since it was crystal clear to me that playing as a DIK and playing as a CHICK were both great.

Now, it is obvious since episode 1 final screen that there are 5 main love interests and it is obvious since episode 3 that having a DIK affinity is no good if you pursue 4 of these main love interests.

So, my guess is that almost everybody who loves this game has been playing different gameplays with different affinities - DIK, CHICK, NEUTRAL.
 
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Geralt From Rivia

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In every community, currents are created and some of them take over, pushing the others to a more cautious attitude. Then on the internet even worse as usually the one who shouts the loudest wins. I consider steam data more reliable than the impression I get from reading here and there
Social interaction on the internet these days is just the perfect interpretation of the "I love democracy" irony.
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Of course, tastes in different communities may differ, for example, I concluded that Jill is very fond of Reddit. I didn't hear anyone laughing at her there. Patreon DPC also loves her very much - it is the patrons who decide who to portray on special renders. Jill is in the lead there
exactly my point
laugh at her on dpc's discord HOW DARE YOU
laugh at her here, you get a few likes, depending on how good the post was and the rest of the page are mostly goblin jokes and shrek pictures
so, as I said, no point in comparing preferences
 
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exactly my point
laugh at her on dpc's discord HOW DARE YOU
laugh at her here, you get a few likes, depending on how good the post was and the rest of the page are mostly goblin jokes and shrek pictures
so, as I said, no point in comparing preferences
Sometimes there is a reaction from Jill's fans to what is happening, quite a sharp reaction. Brave people.
 

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or Derek will give his life to save MC and his girl:oops:
I bet some Italian users on this site would have no problem with that.

I'm not surprised by affinity preference results. What I don't get is why you keep implying that one is better than the other just because of their names ? Have you even played CHICK path to back up your white-knighting claim ? Literally the actual most pussy action - rejecting sex with Sage happens every single time, it's not by making a CHICK choice.

DPC is dumb for naming them that way, as it "manly guys" will automatically make DIK choices to feed their egos. Don't understand me wrong - for me neither path is superior, in fact I think this system sucks. You can go for CHICK path and still bang a lot of girls, or vice versa. Get your head out of the gutter and start seeing it for what it is - a bullshit lockout system.
Why are you such an enemy of self awareness? You complain of others implying some choices are better while at the same time implying that people that don't play and think the same way you do have an ego problem, they are insecure, they need to overcompensate for something? Its been a week now and you still don't seem to get a clue.

The best thing is and remains that every player plays BaDIK the way he wants to and forms his own opinion.
This could very well be a John Cena tweet. Saying something mundane, phrased in a way to seem meaningful and deep, yet say absolutely nothing at the same time. :Kappa:
 

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I bet some Italian users on this site would have no problem with that.



Why are you such an enemy of self awareness? You complain of others implying some choices are better while at the same time implying that people that don't play and think the same way you do have an ego problem, they are insecure, they need to overcompensate for something? Its been a week now and you still don't seem to get a clue.
Just what I thought. Incredibly inflated ego, lashing out at people who choose a different path while kicking into overprotective mode when someone criticizes his path. It's strange to hear from a person who says that he chooses Neutral, but at the same time protects CHICK at every opportunity.
And I just shared the statistics and concluded that the majority of players choose.
 

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And I just shared the statistics and concluded that the majority of players choose.
I really don't have an opinion in the CHICK vs DIK debate but one thing is for sure - for someone who claims to love statistics, you sure have a poor understanding of it - 18.2% (or ~42% if you weed out those who haven't reached a permanent affinity yet) is not the majority. By definition, a majority mean 50%+1. The fact is, the majority (~58% of people that have reached a permanent affinity) is NOT on the DIK path.
 
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Does anyone else feel like shit when he sleeps with Jade when doing a Bella run but not when sleeping with every other girl (while doing a Bella run)
Never done it on that run. I expect it to be an issue on her route bearing in mind how she reacted to Cathy, and how she also seems to dislike Jade.
 

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I really don't have an opinion in the CHICK vs DIK debate but one thing is for sure - for someone who claims to love statistics, you sure have a poor understanding of it - 18.2% (or ~42% if you weed out those who haven't reached a permanent affinity yet) is not the majority. By definition, a majority mean 50%+1. The fact is, the majority (~58% of people that have reached a permanent affinity) is NOT on the DIK path.
They can be considered the majority, because they got the highest result of all, which has a lead over the rest of the options. We do not have parliamentary elections here, where it is necessary to form a majority of 50 + 1
By your own definition, these 58% cannot be in the same majority group, because it is Neutral and CHICK - different groups (unless they form a coalition).
Further, based on the available results, when no side gets 50 + 1, we can consider the side with the largest number of votes of 42% as a relative majority.
 
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Does anyone else feel like shit when he sleeps with Jade when doing a Bella run but not when sleeping with every other girl (while doing a Bella run)
I usually bang Quinn on a Bella run for the Hell Week points but Quinn is a hustler and easy to make out and get the fuck out. Fucking Jade is just asking for trouble.
 
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Cabin Fever

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They can be considered the majority, because they got the highest result of all, which has a lead over the rest of the options. We do not have parliamentary elections here, where it is necessary to form a majority of 50 + 1
By your own definition, these 58% cannot be in the same majority group, because it is Neutral and CHICK - different groups (unless they form a coalition).
Further, based on the available results, when no side gets 50 + 1, we can consider the side with the largest number of votes of 42% as a relative majority.
No, they can be considered plurality but not majority. It's simply their definition. The definition of the words do not change just because an election is or isn't involved.

And yes, it is absolutely a majority of people not choosing to be a DIK. The definition is 50%+1. It doesn't say anything about whether it's all one choice or multiple choices grouped together.

For someone who claims to love statistics, it's rather sad that you don't know the difference between a majority vs a plurality.
 
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