shazba

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Tomorrow marks a full year since episode 8 was released. It's a pretty impressive feat. Congrats to the visionary and genius DPC, who somehow managed to get subscribers to pay for a full year of monthly contributions without releasing a new episode.
Give the simps some "eye candy" and they'll be blinded from the truth.
Most patrons understand that the money they provide (a few dollars a month - some more) is not to buy the game, it's to support DPC while he makes the game. His track record and continual communications with his patrons strongly indicates he's not just spinning his wheels watching the money roll in.

So far the length and quality of each episode has been commensurate with the time it has taken. Even the Interlude, which was significantly shorter than an actual episode, when you take in to considerations all the other things that occurred, took about the right amount of time to complete (regardless of whether anyone wanted it).

And of course, as much as the detractors like to pretend it's been a year since the last release, at this very moment it's only been 8 1/2 months since the last release, and it'll likely be 10 months or less when the next episode drops.

Considering episode 8 only took 6 1/2 months to create, it's definitely a big jump in development time, especially when DPC mentioned he was trying to reign that in, and it's clear his preference to add longer animations is the key reason it's blown out so much, hopefully the animations are worth it (unlikely) or that he learns his lesson and doesn't let it happen like this again.

But just remember, if it wasn't for generous people prepared to support these AVN developers, they wouldn't exist, and we'd be left with just Japanese AVNs.

If everyone just sat back and scoffed like you guys, there'd be nothing to scoff at...

Isn't that obvious? The choice of branches in EP8 will have a great impact on the history of the MC. That's why Crossroads.

If the MC chooses the "other girls", this decision will be much more pornographic than if the player chooses Isabella. And why? Pink Rose Girls, Restaurant Girls, Vixens, Swyper Girls, Zoey. Most of these girls actually just want horny sex without any relationship commitments.

But the branches for Josy, Maya, Jill, Isabella and Sage are closed.

"Other": this option is available only if you are not in the relationship of Josy and Maya and do not have a successful relationship with Jill. If you decide that none of the other girls are right for you, you reject all relationships with the main girls and remain friends with them."

This is the player's decision and he only gets the "other girls" if he is willing to sacrifice all LI branches. But gets what he wants. Porn game.

Personally, I don't want my MC to end up like Floyd or Neil.
so in your opinion the choice of the eighth chapter is final

in the middle of the game

unlikely
i also dont understand why we needed to make that decision so early in the game
i mean, this game is supposed to have 12 episodes. if we make this important decision on ep8 it basically means that the game will cock block us for 4 episodes...
Having a relationship is one of the crazy things people do in college, so it's perfectly fine to have such option. If you don't want to be with only one girl then simply pick "Others", that's exactly what it is for, fucking around while avoiding any commitment.
Mostly true but this particular game has a fix for everyone.. I think there's more behind choosing one partner here..like if you really like one of the girls more, even though you are still seeing others on the side which then boils down to whether you are willing to sacrifice other flings just to be with her or not. ..
There were two ways for DPC to go through with the choice, the arbitrary choice point or a staggering choice over a number of episodes.

The way I see it, the end of episode 8 was the point where Jill would demand exclusivity, which is why DPC put the choice there. If it was more realistic Jill would have given Fuckface the ultimatum rather than Fuckface having the breakfast discussion. The issue would be that most players without multiple playthroughs would reject Jill straight away at that point. M/J haven't yet decided they want to add strings to the relationship because they have bigger things to worry about with Maya's tuition situation however if that gets resolved with the Burkes then they'd be the next to force Fuckface's hand. Bella would probably live with the situation longer because Fuckface dating other girls helps keep their relationship more secret but I guess her jealousy would eventually rise high enough for her to tell Fuckface that in order for her to continue with the relationship it would have to be exclusive as it's not worth her risking her job just to be one of Fuckface's many girls. That would then leave Sage who it seems would be happy with the fuckbuddy relationship for an extended period of time and probably wouldn't push Fuckface to be more serious until she was deciding what to do as she leaves college.

While the above would be more realistic Sage's popularity with the playerbase means that most players with single playthroughs would finish the game with Sage or remain single (if there's any time to spend with side girls after Sage wants to get serious) because they like Sage and want to maximise their choice through their playthrough without committing to the single relationship. DPC wants to maximise the amount of playthroughs players do so this would make no sense to him.

For example if the choice at episode 8 was get serious with Jill or keep all other options open, how many people in this thread would bother with Jill? Only those who want to get all scenes, the majority in this thread care little for Jill and would be happy just to cut her storyline for season 2. Probably the same when the throuple fork happens in episode 10 or 11, more would probably stay with Bella in ep 13/14 but the vast majority would keep options open with Sage and others until her fork happens.
Although some people have often said the choice was forced (I mean you wanna start saying that, the mc was "forced" to take a shower in episode 1... :rolleyes:), but his thoughts and the situation had been progressively leading up to the decision.

In episode 4, the whole situation with Maya and Josy where the mc found out about them shook him. He took almost the entire episode to get over it, because of the the lying and the cheating (the girls didn't cheat on him, they cheated on each other).

In episode 6 there's that funny scene in the library when the mc panics when all the girls start to converge on him at the study table:

mc "Study!"​

These are all girls he's been fooling around with, and now they are getting to know each other. Any sane man would know this is a recipe for danger!

Later in episode 6, if he goes on the picnic with Jill, he acknowledges he's falling for her and considers himself a "piece of shit" for still fucking others. His thoughts were:

mc "(I've played the field without realizing I'm getting close to more than one girl...)"​
mc "(I need to figure myself out before this leads to anyone getting hurt...)"​

Sage's relationship with Chad ended because of cheating.

In episode 8, after the recital the mc he admits that he never expected all these girls he's been messing around with the become friends.

With Sage, all along they've been fuck buddies, but she's free now, and their relationship looks to be getting more serious. The last thing the mc should do is start that off while cheating on her.

Deep down the mc is a good guy. DIK or Chick, he's not an asshole. But his new found confidence and reputation at college has thrust him into a world of sex that he was not used to (as we know, he was a shy loner in the past, his only relationship was with another misfit - Zoey).

He kinda got lost in the sea of girls that was flowing his way, but he's been progressively more retrospective as the relationships go deeper, culminating into his deliberating at the crossroads of episode 8.

It's not that it doesn't make sense that the mc decided to make a decision at this point in his life, it's just that people are looking at the clock going:

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i still can't believe we got blue balled so long just for Jill to give it up so easily.
She either gave it up easily, or she took ages to give it up? You're saying both. Which one is it? :p

It's kinda realistic though. A lot of girls don't fuck on first dates (or 3rd dates). They wanna know the relationship is serious before they do that. And unlike porn games, girls don't progress the physical shit like this:

Date1: Hugging​
Date2: Holding hands​
Date3: Kissing​
Date4: Makeout session​
Date5: Groping tits​
Date6: Handjob​
Date7: Titjob​
Date8: Blowjob​
Date9: Thighjob​
Date10: 69​
Date11: Vaginal sex​
Date12: Anal sex​
Date13: Ass to mouth​

That's just done like that to drag shit out in a game. When a girl is ready to fuck, she's ready to fuck.
 

methix

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im having an issue no saves show to import for the interlude i still haven't finish season 2 yet is that why? and saves will show when i finish season 2?
 
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shazba

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im having an issue no saves show to import for the interlude i still haven't finish season 2 yet is that why? and saves will show when i finish season 2?
When you finish season 2, it’ll prompt you to export. It’s pretty straight forward from that point on.
 

ename144

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Although some people have often said the choice was forced (I mean you wanna start saying that, the mc was "forced" to take a shower in episode 1... :rolleyes:), but his thoughts and the situation had been progressively leading up to the decision.

In episode 4, the whole situation with Maya and Josy where the mc found out about them shook him. He took almost the entire episode to get over it, because of the the lying and the cheating (the girls didn't cheat on him, they cheated on each other).

In episode 6 there's that funny scene in the library when the mc panics when all the girls start to converge on him at the study table:

mc "Study!"​

These are all girls he's been fooling around with, and now they are getting to know each other. Any sane man would know this is a recipe for danger!

Later in episode 6, if he goes on the picnic with Jill, he acknowledges he's falling for her and considers himself a "piece of shit" for still fucking others. His thoughts were:

mc "(I've played the field without realizing I'm getting close to more than one girl...)"​
mc "(I need to figure myself out before this leads to anyone getting hurt...)"​

Sage's relationship with Chad ended because of cheating.

In episode 8, after the recital the mc he admits that he never expected all these girls he's been messing around with the become friends.

With Sage, all along they've been fuck buddies, but she's free now, and their relationship looks to be getting more serious. The last thing the mc should do is start that off while cheating on her.

Deep down the mc is a good guy. DIK or Chick, he's not an asshole. But his new found confidence and reputation at college has thrust him into a world of sex that he was not used to (as we know, he was a shy loner in the past, his only relationship was with another misfit - Zoey).

He kinda got lost in the sea of girls that was flowing his way, but he's been progressively more retrospective as the relationships go deeper, culminating into his deliberating at the crossroads of episode 8.

It's not that it doesn't make sense that the mc decided to make a decision at this point in his life, it's just that people are looking at the clock going:

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I'm with you on most of the post, but I can't agree with this. The problem was never about the MC's "forced" monogamy, it's about the execution. DPC wanted to make a big spectacle of the MC committing to a girl (or not) to end Season 2, but he himself wasn't willing to commit to what that required. You say it makes sense for the MC to make a decision at the crossroads, but that's only true in a handful of cases. In most cases, the decision is very late in coming: Maya had to talk the MC out of committing to the throuple back in Episode 5, and the conflict between Bella and Jill should have reached a breaking point in back in Episode 7. Meanwhile the relationship with Sage was so unproblematic that DPC had to invent that ridiculous Rebound Guy speech just to force the issue.

Looking back on things, I suspect that DPC intended Season 2 to be about the MC sowing his wild oats. His comment to Maya and Josy about how he needed to stop acting on instinct was supposed to indicate he was going to focus on casual dating rather than obsessing over true love. Thus Season 2 becomes the path by which the MC decides he's finally ready to settle down, with the crossroads being the natural endpoint.

But if that is the case, I think DPC *really* muddled the message. First, because the MC was already very comfortable with casual sex by the midpoint of Season 1 - particularly if he's a DIK. Second, because DPC's emphasis on sex in the the highly amorphous Affinity system makes it feel like casual sex is something CHICKs should be avoiding rather than embracing. Third, because if we control the MC's actions and have eyes only for one of the girls, it's not clear why we'd *want* to wait for a crossroad to make things official. And fourth, because the existence of an 'Others' path allows us to obviate the season's alleged theme just so we can keep playing the field.

This is then compounded by the way DPC pivots directly from the theoretical climax of the crossroads into the three-hit combo of meeting Sage's parents, the Vixens, and the Interlude. By making the MC panic about Sage being Jade's daughter regardless of his relationship with either or both of them, DPC inadvertently highlights the way our choices are illusory. By naming Episode 9 after the Vixens (and relentlessly hyping up the Halloween party as the big ticket item), DPC contradicts the notion that the MC was ready to focus on becoming a proper boyfriend. And by cutting away from the main action to an Interlude focused squarely on Zoey's backstory, DPC raises the specter that Zoey will displace our chosen LI whether we want it or not.

The combined effect really is nothing short of disastrous IMHO. It makes Zoey a near perfect manifestation of all the shortcomings in DPC's approach to drama, and gives us a full year to stew in that impression before DPC gets a chance to disprove it. And I say that as someone who wants DPC to disprove it - I'm actively trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. But he makes it so damn hard sometimes. I sincerely hope we can get out of this mess and never look back, but I'm not going to pretend I like where we are now.

So no, I don't think it's unreasonable to complain about the 'forced' nature of the crossroads, nor to worry about where the game goes from here. DPC brought this on himself.
 

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This is then compounded by the way DPC pivots directly from the theoretical climax of the crossroads into the three-hit combo of meeting Sage's parents, the Vixens, and the Interlude. By making the MC panic about Sage being Jade's daughter regardless of his relationship with either or both of them, DPC inadvertently highlights the way our choices are illusory. By naming Episode 9 after the Vixens (and relentlessly hyping up the Halloween party as the big ticket item), DPC contradicts the notion that the MC was ready to focus on becoming a proper boyfriend. And by cutting away from the main action to an Interlude focused squarely on Zoey's backstory, DPC raises the specter that Zoey will displace our chosen LI whether we want it or not.

The combined effect really is nothing short of disastrous IMHO. It makes Zoey a near perfect manifestation of all the shortcomings in DPC's approach to drama, and gives us a full year to stew in that impression before DPC gets a chance to disprove it. And I say that as someone who wants DPC to disprove it - I'm actively trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. But he makes it so damn hard sometimes. I sincerely hope we can get out of this mess and never look back, but I'm not going to pretend I like where we are now.

So no, I don't think it's unreasonable to complain about the 'forced' nature of the crossroads, nor to worry about where the game goes from here. DPC brought this on himself.
Yeah, no matter what anyone thinks about the Interlude, it's clear that Zoey is going to play a large part in the upcoming chapters. I'm not at all sure she is going to supplant the MC's chosen LI, however.

Something Ffive said seems very likely. Even after being forced to choose, the specter of Zoey is going to put MC to the test when it comes to his chosen LI. Can he maintain his new relationship, or will the feelings for his first love Zoey come to the forefront?

I am thinking that since we are forced to make some sort of choice at what is supposed to be the halfway point in the story tells me that his story is going to go full on soap opera.
 

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Crossroads MC choices wasn't forced at all. Mc was always looking for a relationship (that much was clear), that why he says "none of these girls are right for me". Also, he is 19 which is pretty young and most people that age get in relationship without much thoughts.
 

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This is then compounded by the way DPC pivots directly from the theoretical climax of the crossroads into the three-hit combo of meeting Sage's parents, the Vixens, and the Interlude. By making the MC panic about Sage being Jade's daughter regardless of his relationship with either or both of them, DPC inadvertently highlights the way our choices are illusory. By naming Episode 9 after the Vixens (and relentlessly hyping up the Halloween party as the big ticket item), DPC contradicts the notion that the MC was ready to focus on becoming a proper boyfriend. And by cutting away from the main action to an Interlude focused squarely on Zoey's backstory, DPC raises the specter that Zoey will displace our chosen LI whether we want it or not.
The MC's reaction to Sage's parents is just teasing from DPC about what will happen in episode 9. I see nothing else. Because after all, we don't know if it happens right after the MC arrives at Jade's, or later during the meeting.
(so the reaction would not be caused by the Jade/Sage/Tybalt link but by an upcoming event)


For the vixens, what disturbs is the visual of the 3 girls. We imagine that it's them we're talking about, and indeed, it doesn't really fit with the EP8.

I looked up the definition of vixen, and found this: a spirited or fierce woman, especially one seen as sexually attractive.

Finally, I think it sticks with the EP8. The MC will be confronted with sexually attractive women (that's not new, and I include Zoey in the vixens, as well as all the side girls), but this time it will come up against the choice of EP8.

It's fine to choose an LI at EP8, but if it's ok to hit all the vixens that pass, it doesn't make sense. So "commitment" to an LI will be tested by vixens (aka all women the MC can fuck).

Will the MC be faithful? (or to put it less seriously, is he going to stop hooking up now that he has a more serious relationship)

On the contrary, if he hasn't chosen, he will fuck all the girls. With a variant, he may have chosen an LI, but realize that he is missing out on all these vixens, and regret it...
 
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dalli_x

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I partially disagree in the sense that although on one playthrough I ended up only with 'others', I deliberately avoided every main LI and told Derek in ep 5 that I still had feeling for Josy. I believe (and hope) there will be a path for her but w/o Maya.
No idea if this is possible. DPC has clearly written that Josy and Maya share a branch. If anything, Josy and Maya would then have to separate, which would cancel out the branch itself. The conclusion would be that Josy and Maya join the "Other" branch.

But this is pure speculation.
 
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