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Can someone explain the waifu wars to me? There are so much postings just about "Quinn/Josy/Jill/... is the best" and why "Goblin/Madam/Maya/..." are shit. I don't get what's the fun about it. Couldn't we all agree to the point that all girls in their own path/branch are good? Of course Madame is a case of it's own because of the design of her renders but even she has a right to exist in this game. Yeah, I know this right to exist is really hard to explain.

Sure, I only can speak for myself but when I'm playing the MaJo branch I only care about Maya and Josy. The same applies when I play the Isabella branch, I'm all into Bella and don't care about the rest. With the Jill branch I love a banana. So what? Okay, some paths/branches I like more because of the story behind but this changes from time to time when the story goes on with the next update. There was a time MaJo path was my favourite, then it was Bella, i had my time with Sage, so on. I really don't get why there's so many waifu war going on.

Some wise ancient greek dude said once: "It doesn't matter if they're white, black, brown, purple or smart, dumb, big, tall, tiny. If you can fuck them you should fuck them." I think it was Aristotle.
Sometimes it's second degree joke.

Unfortunately, there are also a whole bunch of guys who are very serious. IRL, there are character traits, attitudes, actions, sometimes sexual orientations that these guys can't stand. They carry that over to the characters in the game.


There is also a bit of frustration with one aspect of the game. The player doesn't have 100% control over the MC. I think it creates a lot of annoyance and frustration, and it spills over to some characters.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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With Sage I guess the expectation were just different, and as always the long wait didn't help. Throughout season 2 she was progressing to be more romantic and sweeter. If you pick her in ep8 she talks about going on dates, cuddles, stuff like that. Then in ep9 we get the Sage who wants to be called a slut and getting fucked in the ass. While it's still in character, it's quite the whiplash from the last time MC had a 1 on 1 scene with her.

Both sides have merit. Ep9 was a halloween party, so it makes sense she was horny/slutty. But I also can't fault people who wanted sweet Sage after how things ended in ep8.
Yes, Sage wants to be romantic, cuddles and other cute stuff.
But in sex she is a very kinky girl. She likes rough sex, she likes experiments and various perversions. And this is also seen in the second season. Sage develops in different planes - this is normal for a person.
I realized that Sage is a very wild thing a long time ago. For example in Episode 5 she gets fucked in her brother's bed, in Episode 7 in the backyard of HOT's, then we get a threesome with Sage and Quinn. She says she wants to try more wild things in bed? Why? Sage has a high sexual libido and for many years she did not receive normal attention from Chad - their sex was clearly infrequent and bad, for obvious reasons. Her consolation was sex toys. But now, when she gets a guy open to experiments, then she disperses in full.
I'm thinking about what other experiments she wants to try, but so far she won't admit it. Most likely this is BDSM and public sex, from what I understood, going through a haunted basement with her.
 

Takkatakka

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Both sides have merit. Ep9 was a halloween party, so it makes sense she was horny/slutty. But I also can't fault people who wanted sweet Sage after how things ended in ep8.
Who knows, what might still come. Also there are other options if you want a more romantic LI. Sage is very much meant as the more kinky/slutty LI and everything happening in Ep. 9 fit her very well.
 
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People liked Chapter 2 Sage and wanted more of that, instead they got episode 1 Sage who asks you for threesomes and if you want to be pegged.
I get it, totally, but if you play 7-9 straight, there is a good balance. This is just ONE NIGHT. I understand what you mean, because when she is kinky she almost sounds anti love/cuddle as Quinn, but i think she is just being true to herself at those moments.
You mean replacing the persistent in the roaming > renpy > BeingaDIK-1535311494 and also the save inside the "games" folder??
Yes. And make backups.
What are you trying to achieve btw?
remember HOTs pool scene in eps 1? or when MC havin lunch with queen/sage in eps.7 .
I remember the scenes, but not dereks impact on them, remind me if you're willing
The question is: what relationship? MC offered it, but did Sage really accept it? It doesn't seem so to me.

he declares he only wants her, that for her he's ready to give up the others. she doesn't accept but doesn't exclude and in the meantime even in the intimacy they are more fuckable than before

they are living a compromise, Sage has the fuckbuddy he wanted and Mc has the hope that something will change
I get it, nothing is official YET, but E9 "walk of shame" for me, is Sage's way of saying she is being on board.
With Sage I guess the expectation were just different, and as always the long wait didn't help. Throughout season 2 she was progressing to be more romantic and sweeter. If you pick her in ep8 she talks about going on dates, cuddles, stuff like that. Then in ep9 we get the Sage who wants to be called a slut and getting fucked in the ass. While it's still in character, it's quite the whiplash from the last time MC had a 1 on 1 scene with her.

Both sides have merit. Ep9 was a halloween party, so it makes sense she was horny/slutty. But I also can't fault people who wanted sweet Sage after how things ended in ep8.
I get that, however it isn't "she's reverted, she's ruined" it's just they wanted more of that side of her.
Yes, Sage wants to be romantic, cuddles and other cute stuff.
But in sex she is a very kinky girl. She likes rough sex, she likes experiments and various perversions. And this is also seen in the second season. Sage develops in different planes - this is normal for a person.
I realized that Sage is a very wild thing a long time ago. For example in Episode 5 she gets fucked in her brother's bed, in Episode 7 in the backyard of HOT's, then we get a threesome with Sage and Quinn. She says she wants to try more wild things in bed? Why? Sage has a high sexual libido and for many years she did not receive normal attention from Chad - their sex was clearly infrequent and bad, for obvious reasons. Her consolation was sex toys. But now, when she gets a guy open to experiments, then she disperses in full.
I'm thinking about what other experiments she wants to try, but so far she won't admit it. Most likely this is BDSM and public sex, from what I understood, going through a haunted basement with her.
Yes, i agree, that's a good way of putting it
 

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For me personally, the episode is 1 night.
It's a Halloween party, everyone is drunk and horny.
MC worked his ass off to make the party.
Sage is all about rewarding the MC during his night.
And there was tenderness in the episode too, when the sex stops and she listens to MC, she's the one caressing his hand while he talks(until he mentions the birth mother and wrecks her mojo)
Overall both sides of her where there, but the majority of the episode was a horny frat party, so the behaviour made sense to me at least.
I'm happy with the Sage route in ep9.
 

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Can someone explain the waifu wars to me? There are so much postings just about "Quinn/Josy/Jill/... is the best" and why "Goblin/Madam/Maya/..." are shit. I don't get what's the fun about it. Couldn't we all agree to the point that all girls in their own path/branch are good? Of course Madame is a case of it's own because of the design of her renders but even she has a right to exist in this game. Yeah, I know this right to exist is really hard to explain.

Sure, I only can speak for myself but when I'm playing the MaJo branch I only care about Maya and Josy. The same applies when I play the Isabella branch, I'm all into Bella and don't care about the rest. With the Jill branch I love a banana. So what? Okay, some paths/branches I like more because of the story behind but this changes from time to time when the story goes on with the next update. There was a time MaJo path was my favourite, then it was Bella, i had my time with Sage, so on. I really don't get why there's so many waifu war going on.

Some wise ancient greek dude said once: "It doesn't matter if they're white, black, brown, purple or smart, dumb, big, tall, tiny. If you can fuck them you should fuck them." I think it was Aristotle.
People will talk about what they like and dislike. If you get your feelings hurt because of it, maybe you shouldn't read other people opinons. Learn how to filter it.
Most of you get butthurt because someone is making a comment about the game. About things they like in the game or dislike. The same goes about characters, but people are free to express themselves. You have to learn how to deal with a different opinion about the game and not take it personally, because none of them is trying to hurt you or your feelings.
 
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With Sage I guess the expectation were just different, and as always the long wait didn't help. Throughout season 2 she was progressing to be more romantic and sweeter. If you pick her in ep8 she talks about going on dates, cuddles, stuff like that. Then in ep9 we get the Sage who wants to be called a slut and getting fucked in the ass. While it's still in character, it's quite the whiplash from the last time MC had a 1 on 1 scene with her.

Both sides have merit. Ep9 was a halloween party, so it makes sense she was horny/slutty. But I also can't fault people who wanted sweet Sage after how things ended in ep8.
In honesty, She never wanted that. She knows MC wanted that from her so she tries to give that to him. Reason why, at the end of EP.8 She is kind of feeling awkward to tell him that she wanna fuck. The reason why she feels embarrassed to tell him that is because she thinks if she does tell him that, it is not gonna be what he wants from her.

I suggest the player to stop looking at a character with his expectations in mind and start seeing what the characters really are. It happens in a lot of RL relationship as well. People never try to understand or accept the other the way they are. They want them to become what they want, as if they own the person.

If you have a gf who is popular, who talks to a lot of guys and girls. You can not expect this girl to stop talking to guys only because she is in a relationship with you. You can expect from her to respect your relationship, by not cheating on you, kissing or having any sexual interaction with someone else, unless you both agreed on that. But you can't expect the person to change who they are because of you.

With that in mind, the same goes for Sage. Since ep1, all she wanted was someone to fuck her. Chad never gave what she wanted, she offered that to MC. MC then wants something else from her other than sex. That is not what she wanted. But she said she'd try. Then a frat halloween party happens, where all you do on these parties is get drunk and try to find someone to fuck, you are judging her because she wants to fuck and have anal sex with her boyfriend.

Some people are upset that she was trying some fetishes with MC. But didn't she and MC had talks about their fetishes before? Didn't MC tried to fuck her ass before? So why this bothers everyone that she wants to give him her tight virgin asshole in the end of the night of a frat party? Shouldn't he feel special for being the first?

She cannot changed who she is because of you. Both have to make efforts. She is trying on her side, you should be patience and try on your side aswell. People aren't there to serve us and only the things we like. That is not how the world works.
 
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The Glorious LIME

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People will talk about what they like and dislike. If you get your feelings hurt because of it, maybe you shouldn't read other people opinons. Learn how to filter it.
Most of you get butthurt because someone is making a comment about the game. About things they like in the game or dislike. The same goes about characters, but people are free to express themselves. You have to learn how to deal with a different opinion about the game and not take it personally, because none of them is trying to hurt you or your feelings.
I think it(wars) mostly comes out of people not respecting other people's opinions.
It's ok to not like characters, but when someone says "I like Jill because of this and that", accept it or debate with personal view points and so on, and not go all "No, fuck that shit man, she's garbage! Jill worst girl! Only a virgin incel could like Jill, hahahahahah".

So it's more about people's attitude than difference of opinion.
We can all have different tastes or be completionists(playing all routes in every possible way), but as long as we can talk about it without degrading someone's taste, talking/sharing opinions/debating is all good.

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Takkatakka

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In honesty, She never wanted that. She knows MC wanted that from her so she tries to give that to him. Reason why, at the end of EP.8. She talks is kind of feeling awkward to tell him that she wanna fuck. The reason why she feels embarrassed to tell him that is because she thinks if she does tell him that, it is not gonna be what he wants from her.
I don't think that is really it. I think she is happy to be able to open up more to someone. It's just difficult for her and some topics (like her biological mother) are still a bridge too far for now.

And that is a good thing, because outside of a potential fallout of the affair with Jade (which the MC might not even had depending on the playthrough) there really doesn't seem too many obstacles and issues on the horizon for the Sage path compared to the M&J or Bella path.
 

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I get it, nothing is official YET, but E9 "walk of shame" for me, is Sage's way of saying she is being on board.
if it wasn't for the still open relationship with Chad she might have done it even earlier (and it's not like she got very far)

the walk of shame is not meant to be official, especially if it is only sex that is being talked about.
those same words wouldn't have been particularly out of tune in the mouth of a sidegirl (Lily for example)
 

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I don't think that is really it. I think she is happy to be able to open up more to someone. It's just difficult for her and some topics (like her biological mother) are still a bridge too far for now.

And that is a good thing, because outside of a potential fallout of the affair with Jade (which the MC might not even had depending on the playthrough) there really doesn't seem too many obstacles and issues on the horizon for the Sage path compared to the M&J or Bella path.
She has the most unique path out of all or nearly all current LI currently in my opinion, she isn't embarrassed like Quinn, awkward like Jill or confused/guilty like Isabela. (i still didn't played Josy-Maya path so i don't know how the relationship with them is)

She is kinky and flirty, she doesn't shy away when she spends time with MC, even though she looks like she doesn't take things seriously, she can become serious when she wants but she still tries to get used with being in a serious relationship since she didn't had any of that when she was with Chad.

The truth is that she really doesn't have much experience when comes to relationships at all, maybe she also got trust issues from last time and doesn't feel entirely confident with being in a serious relation.

I'm very curious how things will progress with her in the future.
 
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Ep9 was a halloween party, so it makes sense she was horny/slutty. But I also can't fault people who wanted sweet Sage after how things ended in ep8.
Every character gets wasted but MC (he has to work and take care of everything). Honestly, what did they expect?


Most of you get butthurt because someone is making a comment about the game. About things they like in the game or dislike. The same goes about characters, but people are free to express themselves. You have to learn how to deal with a different opinion about the game and not take it personally, because none of them is trying to hurt you or your feelings.
The problem is that a lot of people don't pay attention at what's happening in the story. It seems to me that they just don't read the dialogues, either.


And that is a good thing, because outside of a potential fallout of the affair with Jade (which the MC might not even had depending on the playthrough) there really doesn't seem too many obstacles and issues on the horizon for the Sage path compared to the M&J or Bella path.
Big huge issue on the horizon: what will happen when people discover the big elephant in the room aka the "restaurant" business. Remember: Sage is HOTs' president and her dad is their "customer".
 

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The question is: what relationship? MC offered it, but did Sage really accept it? It doesn't seem so to me.

he declares he only wants her, that for her he's ready to give up the others. she doesn't accept but doesn't exclude and in the meantime even in the intimacy they are more fuckable than before

they are living a compromise, Sage has the fuckbuddy he wanted and Mc has the hope that something will change
Are you telling us that the MC telling first Quinn and then Rhiona that he IS in a relationship while on the Sage path leaves any ambiguity or uncertainty ?

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So MC+Jill are Boyfriend and Girlfriend.

MC + Maya and Josy become exclusive.

MC + Bella are in a relationship.

But Sage is a ... fuckbuddy ???

Are you having one-sided Zoey flashbacks or what prompts that doubt ? Im really curious, because to me it couldn't be any more clear that all 4 relationship paths led to...well exactly that...a relationship. The "I love you" words haven't been uttered in any path yet, so that can't be it.
 

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Forgive me for my English but it is not my language. It has happened to me in part that is Sage.
Quoting MC "She's is also so different from me...I'm not sure if it's good or bad at times. ".
I think that she is a character with very good things, she cares about others, she is affectionate in her own way.
For many people this is good and for others it is not. In my case I don't enjoy how she likes sex, calling her a slut and how sex seems to be in the direction of BDSM. In general I do not like to degrade others.
I'm not complaining about threesomes or trying things, in fact my favorite paths are J/M, Lilly and Quinn.
For example, I really enjoy Quinn, they say bitch and things to each other, but they have another tone, more like challenging each other.
I'm totally ok in dirty and rough things so it's not a big deal me. Quinn route is my second in a top list, it's incredibly well written and the sizzling chemistry between them is mesmerizing. Quinn struggles with herself and her feelings, eventually losing, admitting that she likes Tremolo. This is probably the first person other than her father, whom she lets close to her. While at arm's length.
 
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