Ir0n Ma1den

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Eh.

Sage is/was my main girl since season 2 when I switched off Maya (who had become unbearable by that point), but I kind of agree with people being disappointed in her last few episodes. I'm not sure DPC knows what he wants to do with her, and frankly, I've said it before a good portion of her dialogue and Quinn's feels like it ought to be flipped. Instead of adding depth to the character, the constant back and forth between super wild slut and deeply emotional girl (with a healthy sex drive) is starting to give me whiplash. Which Sage am I going to get today?

It's not about the quality of the sex. Frankly, the sex scenes in BaD are extremely well made, but I care so much about the characters, its much harder to objectify them. Which is great. But it also creates a problem with a work like this that is more than just porno. This isn't the only character to have this problem either. Different girls jump personalities from scene to scene rather than slowly growing or deepening.

I think I understand what he was going for with Sage, he just did a shitty job of conveying it to the audience. Sage starts out as a 'slut' and then reforms to a good girlfriend in our mind. But that's not it. Sage is an adventurous girl (its one of the things I like best about her). She starts the story in a shitty relationship. But you don't save her from it. She rides it out, because of her own issues until it collapses and then you're there for her after. But Sage isn't turning into the good girl she was always meant to be. She's a hound and she's finally found the ideal partner to explore all her impulses with (you). She trusts you. She wants you. But she also wants you to help her discover all the things she would have felt shamed for for the past few years. (Chad guilted her over her high sex drive, remember?) From this context, the story makes a lot more sense.

But its delivered poorly, Sage shouldn't have opened up emotionally to the MC so soon. Instead she should have told him in Ep8 that she wants him to be a fuck buddy and nothing more.

Not only would this have made her distinct from all the other characters (sorely needed), but it would also have made it much much harder to choose her. Which gives the choice e more narrative weight. Down the line, she would open up more (the stuff we saw in season 2 and more still) climaxing (heheh) in her finally admitting that she WANTS to be in a real relationship with the MC.

I think it's time for DPC to admit some of his failings as an artist (which isn't to say he isn't amazing, but no one is good at everything). He writes good concepts and dialogue and decent plotting, but the man needs an editor. Someone who helps him smooth out arcs between scenes and keep characters consistent within their own voice.
I agree with some points but disagree with others, in the start Sage is depressed and is suspecting that CHAD(lol I laugh hard from this name but I digrass). So she acts like a slut to sort of revenge his cheating, and he not cheated then punishment for not giving her the D, some women in real life do it so DPC hit the nail here.

I disagree with your idea on DPC he wrote her character nicely, and her progression was smooth, what I agree on is that She and MC became a couple too quick.
 

Crepusculum

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They generally stick to Creative Commons tracks, or skip music altogether.
I can't imagine why someone would skip music, its a huge part of what makes a game good.

Thank you for telling me about Creative Commons, that reminds me that DPC talked about "CC BY-SA 3.0 license" when he shared the post about The Friday Prophets, which leads me to understand he ALSO probably started using free songs first, and then probably stated buying music slowly but surly.

can't argue that the premiumbeat library is incredible, and the "mood" filter is simply perfect for game developers, but they need to get some earnings in before they do that.
 

JohnnyBlazePT

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Since Quinn is already falling for MC, I hope when she finally admit her feellings for him we can dump her for Riona or Lily and tell her to her face. And then when she, disappointed, shocked and sad asks why we play with her like this, MC will smile and say:
"Remember when you took my clothes and made run around the campus naked and not even feel sory? This is payback bitch"
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she doesnt apologize per se but she explains the situation and says "no harsh feelings ok?"
also its part of the DIKs haze so...
derek also did it
 

ffive

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I can't imagine why someone would skip music, its a huge part of what makes a game good.
It's not that uncommon especially since quite a few players will turn off the game's music in favor of their own selection. HTML games in particular are often silent. But yeah, personally i'd rather play what the game comes with.
 

JETracktor

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That's CRAZY MONEY.
what are smaller developers doing? is everyone spending 4-5 figures in order to have songs in their games?
Maybe 4-5 years ago music was a problem but not today. There is a lot of indie musicians and studios who's allow using their music in games for free. You just have to credit them, only lazy developer not using this possibility.
The very best of indie musicians (in my opinion ofc) is Karl Casey, who's music I've heard in several games (not just VNs). This dude have a very high range of quality music, literally walking talent.
 
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Crepusculum

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Maybe 4-5 years ago music was a problem but not today. There is a lot of indie musicians and studios who's allow using their music in games for free. You just have to credit them, only lazy developer not using this possibility.
The very best of indie musicians (in my opinion ofc) is Karl Casey, who's music I've heard in several games (not just VNs). This dude have a very high range of quality music, literally walking talent.
Would you kindly tell me if there are any sources/sites that congregate songs that permit this usage?
i doubt there are ones so organized as premiumbeat, but anything close would be fantastic.
 

JETracktor

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Would you kindly tell me if there are any sources/sites that congregate songs that permit this usage?
i doubt there are ones so organized as premiumbeat, but anything close would be fantastic.
I'm afraid there is no such databases, at least I don't know any. There is reason the premiumbeat exists after all.
 
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trifonidis

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Can anyone please say how is the short hidden event available in the free roam after the hots arrived in ep9
You have to keep going to your room till you trigger it. I don't know if it can trigger where the greenscreen is. For me i had to go further in my room where the bed is for it to happen after a lot of back and forth.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Sage was such a surprise for me in the game, in the start she seemed like the typcial popular girl/GF, but DPC made her much more intreasting and gave her depth. She and the MC vibe, same as with most of the girls. I wonder how Zoey will play with the cast, since I doubt that the MC doesn't feel anything+DPC gave her a mini episode of her own (Interlude), so she will definetly play a big part in the game.

Again this game have so many subplots/choises/paths its amazing. This is what I like the most about this game.

Bella is not just a milf, she is a very intreasting character and is suprisingly stoic, but under her stoicness hides mountein of emotion. She is smart, caring, and is a very attrective women.

Besides Jill who I loved in the start but after she dropped our MC just because he chose to attend a sick Sage insted of going to a surprise date. Even in the route that romances Jill it still lefts a sour taste in my mouth, since even if MC doesn't feel love for sage he at least sees her as a good friend and he wants to help her.

The Choise between a surprise picnic and attending sage, WAS THE SHITTIEST CHOISE IN THE GAME. Don't know if its on purpse or not, but it leaves a sour taste in the mouth.
I can't even describe Sage better. The way she gradually develops as a character as we get to know her better is written at the highest level. Some users write that DPC is a bad writer and constantly changes Sage's personality. But it's not. He just reveals it little by little. The fact that Sage is a very good person became clear to me back in Episode 2, when she shows concern for the MC after Dave's mean blow. That moment i understand she's not just popular hot cheerleader.
It opens best in the episode "True Colors" - he even named the episode that way to show that people are not what they seem at first glance.
Bella is extremely interesting for me in terms of the script and I like it as a person, but I get Acting Lessons vibes from her storyline. This door, her husband's history and mental problems. Also, I'm guessing that Bella's storyline will open up this season - this is hinted at by the animated teaser with the door at the beginning of Episode 9.
As for Jill, I don't like her at all as LI. I do not like vanilla stories about good virgin girls, this is the level of a Disney cartoon. As a friend, yes, she is still quite good.
And for me there is no question at all - I will choose instead of a perfect picnic date, helping the sick Sage.
 

Jericho85

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As for Jill, I don't like her at all as LI. I do not like vanilla stories about good virgin girls, this is the level of a Disney cartoon. As a friend, yes, she is still quite good.
And for me there is no question at all - I will choose instead of a perfect picnic date, helping the sick Sage.
Well it's okay. You can be wrong from time to time. there's no harm in that. :ROFLMAO:
 

alex13_zen

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I can't even describe Sage better. The way she gradually develops as a character as we get to know her better is written at the highest level. Some users write that DPC is a bad writer and constantly changes Sage's personality. But it's not. He just reveals it little by little. The fact that Sage is a very good person became clear to me back in Episode 2, when she shows concern for the MC after Dave's mean blow. That moment i understand she's not just popular hot cheerleader.
It opens best in the episode "True Colors" - he even named the episode that way to show that people are not what they seem at first glance.
Bella is extremely interesting for me in terms of the script and I like it as a person, but I get Acting Lessons vibes from her storyline. This door, her husband's history and mental problems. Also, I'm guessing that Bella's storyline will open up this season - this is hinted at by the animated teaser with the door at the beginning of Episode 9.
As for Jill, I don't like her at all as LI. I do not like vanilla stories about good virgin girls, this is the level of a Disney cartoon. As a friend, yes, she is still quite good.
And for me there is no question at all - I will choose instead of a perfect picnic date, helping the sick Sage.
What do you mean by Bella mental problems? Are you referring to her emotional pain over who knows what happened at that Christmas dinner?
 

Jericho85

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Can anyone please say how is the short hidden event available in the free roam after the hots arrived in ep9
At the first freeroam after the HOTs arrive to the party, head to MC's bedroom. There are three perspectives: Study Area (left), Bed (center), Green Screen (Right). Keep clicking back and forth between the three perspectives and Pissing dude will eventually appear randomly.

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The benefit of using NVLink is more Vram (allowing Daz3D more complex scenes with more characters), but render time is actually increased a little. This can be seen in the game, just compare early party renders vs ch9 renders, day and night. With Iray if you don't need the extra Vram not using NVLink is faster.

I think DPC has four 2x3090 rigs.
I was talking about SLI, which doesn’t share vram.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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What do you mean by Bella mental problems? Are you referring to her emotional pain over who knows what happened at that Christmas dinner?
These are guesses. She has severe psychological problems due to her breakup with James. We don't know exactly what happened yet, but the way she behaves, talking to his ghost "come back to me James", fighting with herself when she starts to have feelings for Tremolo. Or take for example her look, in her eyes - coldness and lack of emotion in the early episodes. There is even a fan theory that Bella is experiencing hallucinations.
Or remember Tremolo's words when he kisses her and tells the story in the past tense:
"I wouldn't kiss her. I would call for help."
 
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