Geralt From Rivia

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I disagree. Jill route does NOT equate an automatic beta CHICK MC. I keep wondering why most of the players keep thinking that way. You can play perma Neutral MC with a DIK affinity. Hell, my main Jill save is that MC. He took a pic on Tybalts phone. Got a giggle from Sage and Josy because they KNOW the weapon he's packing;) he punched Tybalt, knocked his teeth out. Fucked everything that moves before he had to lock Jill with the fight for her choice. He is a bad boy that got hooked on some sweet virgin ass. Of course it makes sense that he would be tempted by Bianca... and if he was a lesser man he would succumb to that temptation :BootyTime:

but storywise it would be nonsensical if the temptation was not implemented by the DPC. And he is probably gonna punish those weak of mind whose hand wanders around that nice behind.
I may be getting off topic, but I noticed your signature and realized that your favorite characters are Jill and Quinn. And then this happened in my head:
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How? They are completely opposite. Just curiosity.
 

JETracktor

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Have you noticed that Josy's reaction can be different when meeting Burke? This is the moment when Josy sees Tybalt for the first time towards Burke's apartment.
Look at this frame. Josy looks a little nervous and tense. Why? Yes, because MC was a boring CHICK and did nothing with Tybalt's phone, his presentation was rather dull, where he told stories "why welfare is bad" and called people from a presentable area "poor" . Nothing interesting happened at that presentation. And how can we cheer Josy up?
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We have to ruin his presentation with a dick pic! Then Josy can't stop laughing and hides her face. How cute. MC is of course in complete shock, but you know ... IT WAS TOTALLY WORTH IT. :ROFLMAO:
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Heh, I didn't even know Josy can appear differently in this scene. I always ruin Tybalt's presentation, even in CHICK runs :KEK:
 

QuixoteTheDon

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I may be getting off topic, but I noticed your signature and realized that your favorite characters are Jill and Quinn. And then this happened in my head:
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How? They are completely opposite. Just curiosity.
To me they are the ying and yang of Badik. Different sides of the same coin. Jill is a good, kind, lawful good character who was afraid to let her emotional/sexual guard down. Quinn is an abused, fucked up persona brought up in a chaotic evil enviroment, that has build her emotional wall even higher than Jill. Sex is a meaningless pleasure to her if you are not THE RIGHT one. In the end, she is just as vulnerable as Jill. We see it time and time again.

That is why I rate BADIK no 1 game on this site. Both as a novel and a game. There are many many talented artists out there, and writers and coders etc. But DPC is MVP for me. He has A LOT of faults. But he is the most balanced one.
 

alex13_zen

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Without that kind of temptations, Jill's path would only be "We'll be happy forever with our future four children, tree golden retriever, six horses and two unicorns with rainbows in the horns". I think that scene it's just to bring "spice" to the story, but yes, it doesn't make any sense that he touches Bianca's ass literally two seconds after saying to everybody that Jill and him are an official couple. There should be another scene in which Bianca is alone with MC, he sees she's "receptive" and could decide to flirt with her or something like that. But that would mean another scene, more renders, music... So, DPC uses that sluggish narrative resource of using a scene that is already done and introduce that thing of touching or not the butt, even if it doesn't make any sense there.
The announcement that you and Jill are together is made after touching Bia's ass, not before. Makes you wonder if she'd have had the same reaction, probably not.
 
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The Glorious LIME

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To me they are the ying and yang of Badik. Different sides of the same coin. Jill is a good, kind, lawful good character who was afraid to let her emotional/sexual guard down. Quinn is an abused, fucked up persona brought up in a chaotic evil enviroment, that has build her emotional wall even higher than Jill. Sex is a meaningless pleasure to her if you are not THE RIGHT one. In the end, she is just as vulnerable as Jill. We see it time and time again.

That is why I rate BADIK no 1 game on this site. Both as a novel and a game. There are many many talented artists out there, and writers and coders etc. But DPC is MVP for me. He has A LOT of faults. But he is the most balanced one.
My jokes aside, I do agree with you regarding Jill and Quinn being the opposites of a similar coin.
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As for DPC being #1, for me personally OceanLab is, I prefer his work, style and vibe more.
But I'd say DPC and Ocean are top 2 for sure. DPC is grander by all means atm, but it's just a personal preference in my case.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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To me they are the ying and yang of Badik. Different sides of the same coin. Jill is a good, kind, lawful good character who was afraid to let her emotional/sexual guard down. Quinn is an abused, fucked up persona brought up in a chaotic evil enviroment, that has build her emotional wall even higher than Jill. Sex is a meaningless pleasure to her if you are not THE RIGHT one. In the end, she is just as vulnerable as Jill. We see it time and time again.

That is why I rate BADIK no 1 game on this site. Both as a novel and a game. There are many many talented artists out there, and writers and coders etc. But DPC is MVP for me. He has A LOT of faults. But he is the most balanced one.
Quinn is one of the most well-written characters, the contrast between what a bad girl she is, sexually promiscuous, and yet her emotional closeness, her shyness is even greater than Jill's.
 

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Awesome to see this got a update after so long... but I'm still bummed that my gal Quinn isn't someone we can try and get with like Sage or Jill etc.. and now we have a few new faces Tara caught my eye so hopefully we can get with also some way down the road.
 
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The Glorious LIME

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Well... I am a Gemini.:unsure::p
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Awesome to see this got a update after so long... but I'm still bummed that my gal Quinn isn't someone we can try and get with like Sage or Jill etc.. and now we have a few new faces Tara caught my eye so hopefully we can get with also some way down the road.
If you go down the Quinn route, it is quite possible there is something in the making there. We shall see. in time.
 

znar25

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Hope everyone is doing well.

Normally never play the game with sound as I like the imagination better.

However did the Bella playthrough again with sound on. And of course some good party tunes. Love this one from the Ep7 Quinn hangout which is also in Ep9.

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aykarin

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Awesome to see this got a update after so long... but I'm still bummed that my gal Quinn isn't someone we can try and get with like Sage or Jill etc.. and now we have a few new faces Tara caught my eye so hopefully we can get with also some way down the road.
What do you mean? Quinn got a really nice scene at the end of episode 9 (the best sex scene in the latest update imho). And since ep. 6 she has lots of content with the MC, basically being an unofficial LI. For quite some time now DPC has been regularly putting her along the main girls in various promo pictures (check the image on his Patreon for example).
 

JavCh

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Mediocre party makeup, ugly hair, dimmed lighting. That's what comes to mind.
I'm with you, the only cases I think I see a face change are obviously effects of makeup
All you need to do is go the picnic with her instead of taking care of Sage. Fight for her when the choice occurs, and lastly be a neutral or chick when doing it. And you'll lock Jill if you choose her at the episode 8 ending.
Nope, I'm certain I did all that, and I remember that precisely because they're all obvious choices (picnic and fight for her) and I never did anything concious that took me apart from her (only slip was the dick pic -apparently less important that I thought- and I didn't pay the icecream on the picnic date because I was short on cash). And what I do not rememembered I still have a save of the moment of chosing final LI and I have:

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znar25

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Love how Sage and Jill bonded in this episode. (Yes I make a lot of fun of Jill but I also like Jill a alot, just as I do other LIs and sides). Jill is no longer a prisoner of a limited existence, she has a lot more friends because of MC, no matter if MC is on her path or not.
 
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felicemastronzo

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But my friend, IRL good people do bad stuff that hey regret later on. To simplify the complexity of MC's character because he's supposedly madly in love with Jill is a disservice. You can deeply love someone and still hurt her feelings beyond repair. Schizophrenia is a serious illnes that has nothing to do with a VN MC who thought he loved someone deeply but strayed on her best friends ass. :KEK: you know people do get married and then divorced. Break ups happen. DPC will punish players who fall off the Bianca cliff. ;)
now don't give all this weight to the word schizophrenia. i used it in a generic sense

but someone who touches his girlfriend's best friend's arse with her present, without knowing her well, without there having been any approach between the two of them, is either crazy or nihilistic

whether PDC will punish this behaviour for real we'll see, after all for now what seemed like the ultimate betrayal, the triangle with Bella and Jill, seems like it could have fairly limited and painless consequences.

Without that kind of temptations, Jill's path would only be "We'll be happy forever with our future four children, tree golden retriever, six horses and two unicorns with rainbows in the horns". I think that scene it's just to bring "spice" to the story, but yes, it doesn't make any sense that he touches Bianca's ass literally two seconds after saying to everybody that Jill and him are an official couple. There should be another scene in which Bianca is alone with MC, he sees she's "receptive" and could decide to flirt with her or something like that. But that would mean another scene, more renders, music... So, DPC uses that sluggish narrative resource of using a scene that is already done and introduce that thing of touching or not the butt, even if it doesn't make any sense there.
at this point this applies to the path of each LIs, and it is right that there are temptations, but they must be credible. Zoey, for example, can be a believable temptation, MC who can't hold back with Bianca much but much less.
 
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JavCh

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Awesome to see this got a update after so long... but I'm still bummed that my gal Quinn isn't someone we can try and get with like Sage or Jill etc.. and now we have a few new faces Tara caught my eye so hopefully we can get with also some way down the road.
I think the "others" Path is precisely that, Others (yet to define) not Others and always Others until the end, so is not that by choosing Others you don't choose her, but you still haven't decide at that particular moment. I think the same works for Riona, there're aspects in the conversations that make me think there are endings with them in mind, just that due to their personalities they're no so strict as the other characters that are more romantically motivated so they don't need you to start being exclusive so soon.

I have like zero doubts there will be separeted endings for at least Quinn, Riona and Nicole, and maybe not such an obvious moment of decission like episode 8, but Others path will have another split in the future (it will probably still include a single option or a harem for some of the girls that were in the Others path).
 
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Roundell

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Love how Sage and Jill bonded in this episode. (Yes I make a lot of fun of Jill but I also like Jill a alot, just as I do other LIs and sides). Jill is no longer a prisoner of a limited existence, she has a lot more friends because of MC, no matter if MC is on her path or not.
It's only Sage, and they only talk for a few minutes. She already was a friend of Josy, at least knew Maya and the tri-betas, and has other good friends outside B&R, Bianca and the others. And of course Bella Not to talk that mysterious Jonathan. I don't think she was a prisoner of a limited existence. She already had a lot of people in her life. She's shy with MC and when they are having sex. Outside that, she's a mature and self-confident woman, only too nice with some people for her own good.
 
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