VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[saynotoNTR]

The main problem with adding Zoey to the game is: The MC cares for Zoey, but the player doesn't (initially).

Zoey debuted too late in the game, if the player didn't "fell in love with her at first sight" then the player will hardly make her his main girl. Zoey is at a massive disadvantage compared to the other girls as they have had plenty of time to make the player care about them.

I don't know exactly what the DPC's intention was when introducing Zoey into the game, but if he intends to make the player (those who didn't like her right away) care about Zoey the same way we care about the main girls then he will have a big challenge ahead of him.

 

[dalli_x]

I'm also can't believe Zoey didn't have sex in San Diego. Her hormones would go crazy, and in the end it's not fits her character - such a girl will not refuse casual sex.
On the rooftop, she tells the MC that she had a lot of fast friends who came and went. She may have had sex, it's just not shown to the player. This is the very label of the genre that the majority doesn't like and the DPC avoids it. But a year without sex for a hot, attractive girl with high social skills and rebellious soul, who don't care about the rules? I don't believe.

Maybe Zoey had sex in San Diego. In Interlude Zoey once thought to herself that there were some incidents because of the bracelets in bars that she is not proud of and she asked the MC in EP9 who he banged (fucked) to get that room. Makes me wonder who Zoey fucked to get her loft, especially since Emma mentioned so it's hard to get a room.

 

[felicemastronzo]

She friendzoned him so hard he rode his bike crying in the rain like a schoolgirl and as of the last update his still just a friend .

you're missing the point that it's Zoey holding the hat and asking to at least be MC's friend, but sure whining on the train (round trip) is cooler

 

[Oliver Wendell Homely]

The main problem with adding Zoey to the game is: The MC cares for Zoey, but the player doesn't (initially).

Zoey debuted too late in the game, if the player didn't "fell in love with her at first sight" then the player will hardly make her his main girl. Zoey is at a massive disadvantage compared to the other girls as they have had plenty of time to make the player care about them.

I don't know exactly what the DPC's intention was when introducing Zoey into the game, but if he intends to make the player (those who didn't like her right away) care about Zoey the same way we care about the main girls then he will have a big challenge ahead of him.

Not only does she appear late in the game, there's no indication to players before season 3 that she holds any special significance for the MC outside of his conversation with Bella in episode 3 or 4, in which he tells her about this former girlfriend/fuck buddy from high school. We never see MC talk about Zoey with his dad, Derek, or anyone else. In fact, at the start of the game (the summer before his B&R year) he seems completely smitten with Josy!

If it weren't for the fact that for legal reasons DPC won't want to say that MC and Zoey were kids when they were together because that would imply that the game has a lewd scene of minors having sex, to me what makes the most sense is that Zoey is a year older than MC. They got together in her senior (4th) year of high school when MC was a junior (3rd year), so she graduated a year before he did and headed out to California instead of going to college. Then MC spent his last year of high school bummed out about her departure, but then after his graduation he got a summer job, laid eyes on Josy, and got over Zoey.

 

[Lovetities]

She friendzoned him so hard he rode his bike crying in the rain like a schoolgirl and as of the last update his still just a friend .

Now she is crying hard cause Fuckface didn't drink with her and is too busy to spend time with her

 

[The Glorious LIME]

The main problem with adding Zoey to the game is: The MC cares for Zoey, but the player doesn't (initially).

Zoey debuted too late in the game, if the player didn't "fell in love with her at first sight" then the player will hardly make her his main girl. Zoey is at a massive disadvantage compared to the other girls as they have had plenty of time to make the player care about them.

I don't know exactly what the DPC's intention was when introducing Zoey into the game, but if he intends to make the player (those who didn't like her right away) care about Zoey the same way we care about the main girls then he will have a big challenge ahead of him.

I guess DPC's tactical approach was: Just as players commit to a relationship, here comes trouble.
But the thing is, as is, she seems fine being just friends too.
And in the Others route, she is like any other girl, just has more history with MC.
I don't see Zoey being a homewrecker, she's a problem only if MC/Player chooses her to be, probably.

I mean, I'm a Zoey stan, but if she keeps insisting on shit and not taking no for an answer on my other LI routes, she'll fall hard in my tier list. I love her design and all, so far I like the character. But that all can change.

 

[Roundell]

The main problem with adding Zoey to the game is: The MC cares for Zoey, but the player doesn't (initially).

Zoey debuted too late in the game, if the player didn't "fell in love with her at first sight" then the player will hardly make her his main girl. Zoey is at a massive disadvantage compared to the other girls as they have had plenty of time to make the player care about them.

I don't know exactly what the DPC's intention was when introducing Zoey into the game, but if he intends to make the player (those who didn't like her right away) care about Zoey the same way we care about the main girls then he will have a big challenge ahead of him.

Totally right. At this point of the game, MC is either:
- Fucking with all girls around in solo path.
- Fucking with Sage and about to be her boyfriend.
- Being Jill's boyfriend
- Being Bella's boyfriend.
All of them solid paths. Every player has already got fond of a Li, or some of them, and in a straight track. It's suppose that we should have doubts now because of Zoey? I suppose there are people who find her irresistible and it's OK, but I think most of the people prefer the initial Lis and are not going to dump them in a main gameplay because Zoey is now in the equation. It's not a bad character. She has her charms, after returning from San Diego. She seems to be more mature than she was in the Interlude. But for sure, I wouldn't think in dumping Sage, Bella, Jill or the side girls for Zoey. My MC is not stuck in the past, waiting for Zoey to return. It would be a pretty pathetic MC. He has moved away now and actually, it's kind of rewarding to think that Zoey sees in the party the kind of guy MC is now and could think "Why did I have to leave this guy to go learn surfing? I made a big mistake..."

I will play her path after the other ones just to see it, but that's all.

 

[TittyHeaven]

you're missing the point that it's Zoey holding the hat and asking to at least be MC's friend, but sure whining on the train (round trip) is cooler

Than a crying bike ride? Yes objectively cooler whining . A fuckbuddy catches feelings is weird in texts and gets ghosted for it. This just isn't some great betrayal or wrong. Fuckface catching feelings and not dealing with it at all well when she doesn't base her life around him and stay for him is the issue. In the interlude Zoey when she left clearly had zero intention of cutting contact and wanted that friendship until he got weird so she decided to distance for a while. None of it happens if Fuckface wasn't such a pussy.

If I'm entirely honest the whole Zoey thing to me feels like DPC had a girl ghost him and now we're all paying for it with crying bike rides and park bench cry outs.

Now she is crying hard cause Fuckface didn't drink with her and is too busy to spend time with her

Considering he's love of overly dramatic pussy as an emotional response I wouldn't be surprised if DPC does have her cry over shit like that.

 

[c.mork]

she'll fall hard in my tier list

 

[Roundell]

I can't speak for others, but I can give my reasons for not liking Jill. Just to be clear, I don't hate Jill, I just don't care about her (romantically speaking).

• Jill doesn't fit into the Being a DIK universe. She lives in a preppy bubble and believes the world can be a perfect place if she tries to help in any way.

• Jill is an extremely naive person. Her situation is comically ridiculous. Sometimes it feels like you're dealing with a 5 year old. I wonder if Jill still writes letters to Santa...

• Jill is also a very judgmental person (and not good at it). She judged Rusty for acting different towards her in front of the DIKs, she judged the DIKs themselves as troublemakers, she even judged her best friend for dating a guy much younger than her. Mrs. Perfection is relentless, but apparently very close-minded...

• Jill has a sort of “Walt Disney Syndrome”, she's waiting for Prince Charming... Someone perfect... At the right time... Apparently, she's perfect and won't settle for less... I hate how the MC ends Walk of Shame tradition just because of Jill (who's acting different in front of her now, huh?).

• I could mention the fact that she looks like a goblin when she smiles or the fact that she doesn't know how to suck a cock or... Sorry, I got a little carried away... but those are pretty much my reasons for not liking Jill... Perfect people (who think they're perfect) bore me to the death...

I think Jill has her role in the game: to please the players that prefer a more romantic path with a sweet and cute girl. Actually, I think she's more realistic than other characters. For example, It's more common to find a girl that would prefer her boyfriend stand in front of her mates to end the walk of shame for her, than one that prefers to do the walk of shame alone to have the chance to mock her boyfriend's mates, like Sage. It's easier to find Jills than Sages or Quinns in real life.

The only thing I really don't like about Jill and I find she's is really judgmental there, is the way she behaves with Bella after she finds that MC and her have a relationship, even if MC didn't was in her path. It's like if Bella had to ask for permission to her for dating or fucking someone. It's Bella's fucking private life! Who is Jill? Bella's wife, mother, sister or what? She's just a friend, as far as we know. Bella don't need to ask her for permission or validation to fuck MC if she wants.

On the other part, he goes to the dates with Tybalt just to avoid legal problems to MC, even if he's just a friend. That's a pretty big solid. MC owes her a big favor, but she didn't even ask for something in return.

 

[KАRАMBA]

If I'm entirely honest the whole Zoey thing to me feels like DPC had a girl ghost him and now we're all paying for it with crying bike rides and park bench cry outs.

Yes, and we don't just pay. We are overpaying too much. I involuntarily feel a sense of shame looking at this shit.

 

[The Glorious LIME]

but I think most of the people prefer the initial Lis and are not going to dump them in a main gameplay because Zoey is now in the equation.

I totally agree with this. I like that she was re-introduced to the game(after the flashbacks).
But I for sure wouldn't drop the original LI's I chose to be with her.
If she started acting like a homewrecker and all, I'd lose much of the interest I have in her as a character.
I appreciate the content/possible route we might get with her, but for sure she's introduced too late into the game for me to switch on from chosen post-EP8 routes.

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But I do. I can be a fan, but doesn't change that I don't like homewrecker types.
I mean, for example, lets say on my OG LI routes Zoey confesses and I turn her down.
If she keeps causing issues for those routes and all, I'd dislike that very much.
I may be a fan, but ain't a blind fan

 

[TittyHeaven]

I totally agree with this. I like that she was re-introduced to the game(after the flashbacks).
But I for sure wouldn't drop the original LI's I chose to be with her.
If she started acting like a homewrecker and all, I'd lose much of the interest I have in her as a character.
I appreciate the content/possible route we might get with her, but for sure she's introduced too late into the game for me to switch on from chosen post-EP8 routes.

But I do. I can be a fan, but doesn't change that I don't like homewrecker types.
I mean, for example, lets say on my OG LI routes Zoey confesses and I turn her down.
If she keeps causing issues for those routes and all, I'd dislike that very much.
I may be a fan, but ain't a blind fan

She's such a latecomer I think she may be a backup girl if you change your mind for some reason or get dumped for booty touching (cheating variable), Mom fucking etc. The way she's been written so far she doesn't seem like one to force it and hopefully it doesn't go that way. Her story would be better as either a friend or choice.

 

[c.mork]

But I do. I can be a fan, but doesn't change that I don't like homewrecker types.
I mean, for example, lets say on my OG LI routes Zoey confesses and I turn her down.
If she keeps causing issues for those routes and all, I'd dislike that very much.
I may be a fan, but ain't a blind fan

Anyhow, I don't it will come to that. I'm sure DPC wants her as a temptation, not a nuisance.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I'm also can't believe Zoey didn't have sex in San Diego. Her hormones would go crazy, and in the end it's not fits her character - such a girl will not refuse casual sex.
On the rooftop, she tells the MC that she had a lot of fast friends who came and went. She may have had sex, it's just not shown to the player. This is the very label of the genre that the majority doesn't like and the DPC avoids it. But a year without sex for a hot, attractive girl with high social skills and rebellious soul, who don't care about the rules? I don't believe.

What would Zoey's great social skills be?

in high school she was as much an outcast as MC, in fact only between them could they hang out, and in San Diego if it hadn't been for that syrupy Emma she was still at the hostel practicing being a teetotaler

 

[Lovetities]

Than a crying bike ride? Yes objectively cooler whining . A fuckbuddy catches feelings is weird in texts and gets ghosted for it. This just isn't some great betrayal or wrong. Fuckface catching feelings and not dealing with it at all well when she doesn't base her life around him and stay for him is the issue. In the interlude Zoey when she left clearly had zero intention of cutting contact and wanted that friendship until he got weird so she decided to distance for a while. None of it happens if Fuckface wasn't such a pussy.

If I'm entirely honest the whole Zoey thing to me feels like DPC had a girl ghost him and now we're all paying for it with crying bike rides and park bench cry outs.



Considering he's love of overly dramatic pussy as an emotional response I wouldn't be surprised if DPC does have her cry over shit like that.

Considering Fuckface history with Zoey, it not a surprise that Fuckface actually loved and care for her. No matter how many Dik choices we make, Fuckface as a character is extremely emotional. Also, if Zoey didn't cared about Fuckface, she simply shouldn't have returned and try to contact Fuckface. She is a parasite when Fuckface needed him, she ghosted him without a proper reject. Now that she has nothing and her dream was just big ass failure, she is trying to get back in fuckface life. Fuckface life was literally going well without her.
Ps- I don't think fuckface and Zoey had fuckbuddy relationship, from most of the flashback both of them were in a relationship. It just that both of them were cowards. Sage was fuckface actual fuckbuddy and him getting weird was Dpc biggest fuck-up especially after fuckface rejecting her in ep8

 

[The Glorious LIME]

She's such a latecomer I think she may be a backup girl if you change your mind for some reason or get dumped for booty touching (cheating variable), Mom fucking etc. The way she's been written so far she doesn't seem like one to force it and hopefully it doesn't go that way. Her story would be better as either a friend or choice.

Anyhow, I don't it will come to that. I'm sure DPC wants her as a temptation, not a nuisance.

I agree. Doesn't seem like that to me too.
She might confess even if MC is in a relationship, but as long as she can take a no for an answer, all is good.
But I don't think it will come to that. Specially after the Interlude.

 

[c.mork]

I agree. Doesn't seem like that to me too.
She might confess even if MC is in a relationship, but as long as she can take a no for an answer, all is good.
But I don't think it will come to that. Specially after the Interlude.

Yeah she might make a move once, but if turned down it wouldn't make sense to keep trying. Unlikely people would change their mind, and then it's just annoying.

 

[The Glorious LIME]

Yeah she might make a move once, but if turned down it wouldn't make sense to keep trying. Unlikely people would change their mind, and then it's just annoying.

Indeed. Like I said, Zoey can be trouble most likely if the player wants her to be.
But I ain't getting homewrecker vibes.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

What would Zoey's great social skills be?

in high school she was as much an outcast as MC, in fact only between them could they hang out, and in San Diego if it hadn't been for that syrupy Emma she was still at the hostel practicing being a teetotaler

As you can see, she greatly improved her skills in San Diego. And if not for Emma, there would be someone else - Emma is an extremely useless character, her only purpose is a trigger for the player who forms Zoey affinity.
Now we see how social she is and how easy it is to get along with people. "DIK's liked Zoey" - MC notices this in his diary.