VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[TimHawk]

As for her family, I completely believe that Lynette's parents were petty and vindictive enough to write him out of their lives. And who's to say that any extended family knows that he exists? Or Lynette's friends? Lynette's parents may have made some kind of manipulative power move that kept Neil out of her funeral, or made it private enough that Lynette's friends weren't there. I think that it's a mistake to assume that Lynette's friends know about MC's existence.

Agree to disagree on all of the above but this one I just can't let go. An 18 year old girl runs away from home and is all alone and in the 9 months she is pregnant she is supposed to never tell her best friends or have them visit her at all ? If that's the case, then there better be dragons, elves, dwarves and some serious wand waving magic in the following episodes because that seems so unlikely that we may aswell go full fantasy.

 

[Doorknocker]

Agree to disagree on all of the above but this one I just can't let go. An 18 year old girl runs away from home and is all alone and in the 9 months she is pregnant she is supposed to never tell her best friends or have them visit her at all ? If that's the case, then there better be dragons, elves, dwarves and some serious wand waving magic in the following episodes because that seems so unlikely that we may aswell go full fantasy.

It's absolutely believable if her parents told her friends that Lynette died and so did the child. Whether or not they had contact with her beforehand wouldn't matter, especially if her parents threatened Neil with some kind of made up legal action or to bury him if he told anyone in their social circle that MC was alive. I can definitely see scenarios where the rich abuse their power to push out the poor, whether or not they're in the right legally. Neil is demonstrably ignorant of the law and his rights.

I was a union steward for several years and ignorance of your rights is extremely common in America. Also, yes, rich people and corporations do illegal and shady stuff all the time. They'll trick people into signing things that aren't legally binding, but they act as if it is. I've literally seen judges throw out signed documents liket that before on the basis that there was no way that the employee understood what they were signing.

 

[Doorknocker]

Again, this is a dramatic fictional story by DPC, and who knows what his understanding of the law is, but we're definitely not talking about the stuff of fairies and dragons here. The rich abuse their power all the time and the poor often don't understand their rights.

That being said, I've also worked with construction workers a lot, and there's no way I'd classify them as poor. That, honestly, is one of the biggest plot holes in the game. There's no way Neil should be poor. He is for the purpose of this story, but onstruction workers in America (assuming they're actually working) are anything but poor.

 

[ConvertedEquis]

Is probably because of the mod

 

[TimHawk]

It's absolutely believable if her parents told her friends that Lynette died and so did the child. Whether or not they had contact with her beforehand wouldn't matter, especially if her parents threatened Neil with some kind of made up legal action or to bury him if he told anyone in their social circle that MC was alive. I can definitely see scenarios where the rich abuse their power to push out the poor, whether or not they're in the right legally. Neil is demonstrably ignorant of the law and his rights.

I was a union steward for several years and ignorance of your rights is extremely common in America. Also, yes, rich people and corporations do illegal and shady stuff all the time. They'll trick people into signing things that aren't legally binding, but they act as if it is. I've literally seen judges throw out signed documents liket that before on the basis that there was no way that the employee understood what they were signing.

I totally agree with "illegal and shady stuff", but you take it to the level of mind control. Like the friends don't investigate at all and the parents add an extra empty grave to the cemetery for their "dead" grandchild ? I mean there is shady and then there is WTF??? Not to mention what it would take for them not to be there in the hospital when she gave birth. That would mean they never met Neil (which we already know is not true), then they never extended their condolences for his loss of partner and child or offered any assistance. I don't even how know how they would have muzzled the baby, smuggled it past the visitors and then handed it to Neil without anyone of her friends noticing. It again veers into the land of the fantastical and for all of this to even have a remote chance of happening the parents would have to know in advance that their daughter would die, and actually be present at the hospital, which also seems rather unlikely.

 

[osculim]

Also with the mod deleted and a play again to the same point (from a earlier safe point) it's still the same problem, a little bit strange.

Damage is probably already done. Removing the mod makes no difference.

 

[Deleted member 5767739]

I need help, I experience an infinite loop currently in episode 9. Don't know if I'm doing something wrong, or if it is a bug. But if someone could help me, that would be nice!

It starts here:
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And then te scene stops at this image
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After this scene, the scene repeats itself to the first image posted and so far i can't go out of this loop. I tried to play up to this scene in another way and tried another download, but it doesn't work. Do I mis something?

Thanks, AJ

 

[UaDude]

Oh yeah, classique

 

[Doorknocker]

I totally agree with "illegal and shady stuff", but you take it to the level of mind control. Like the friends don't investigate at all and the parents add an extra empty grave to the cemetery for their "dead" grandchild ? I mean there is shady and then there is WTF??? Not to mention what it would take for them not to be there in the hospital when she gave birth. That would mean they never met Neil (which we already know is not true), then they never extended their condolences for his loss of partner and child or offered any assistance. I don't even how know how they would have muzzled the baby, smuggled it past the visitors and then handed it to Neil without anyone of her friends noticing. It again veers into the land of the fantastical and for all of this to even have a remote chance of happening the parents would have to know in advance that their daughter would die, and actually be present at the hospital, which also seems rather unlikely.

No. Manipulation, bullying, and threats are anything but mind control. By your logic, coersion and deciet is a kind of magic. Human trafficking certainly can't be real, where victims don't go to the police because of the lies they were told, because that would be mind control. The stuff of fairies and dragons. Wage theft wouldn't be the most common kind of theft in America (which iit is) without people standing up for themselves and their rights, because that would be a kind of magic.

And the hyperbole is a bit much. No, it's unlikely there's an extra grave for the kid, unless they splurge for it. Claims of cremation are more likely, and they wouldn't have to do a thing for that excuse.

And who the hell brings all of their friends from out of state to their hospital when they give birth? No one knows when they need to rush to the hospital, and many women are lucky to have even their partner there when it happens. To expect everyone they know to be there when it happens really is the stuff of fantasies. If you happen to know someone who had all of their loved ones live close by and have the luxury (and determination) to spend weeks on standby, then good for you. That's not how it goes for most people.

And no, what I laid out doesn't require them to have never met Neil. If he got threatened and bullied enough to not tell people about MC (assuming Lynette's friends reach out to him on more than one or two occassions), then it's very believable for him not to tell them the truth. Especially if he got coerced into signing somethinng shady (that wouldn't stand up in court, but Neil doesn't know that).

 

[TimHawk]

Read my post again, which is a reply to another post. You only confirm what I wrote. Namely, a legal order of inheritance.
How can this then be wrong?

Oh, so what you ment is that it wasn't a inheritance from Lynette at all, but rather from either her mom or dad aka one of the MC's grandparents dying ?

If that's what you ment, then there still would be no legal way to confuse who actually died. The MC would have been notified of the death (if he was determined to be one of the benefactors) and then, being of legal age, he has to sign and accept his inheritance and no he can't pawn that of to his dad.

And given what he got, it would have to have been via a will, because as a grandson you don't inherit your mothers clothes or diary, but you do climb the inheritance ladder if there are no children, if what you say is true and Lynette was an only child it would have been the remaining spouse(grandparent) and then the MC.

So the inheritance via will would absolutely be possible, but not sneak it past the MC.

 

[Lethal Flourish]

This is Jill's route, Episode 9.
And that's what the thread has been talking about for the last three days.

I haven't played her route in ages . I'm tempted to do it for Bianca's ass

 

[Lethal Flourish]

Was that when the STD discussion started?

lol I don't know I'm just looking through posts I've missed when I was away for like a week

 

[wakkawalla]

Def not enough protection ... for this or many other Threads you need more something like that Bro
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[TimHawk]

No. Manipulation, bullying, and threats are anything but mind control. By your logic, coersion and deciet is a kind of magic. Human trafficking certainly can't be real, where victims don't go to the police because of the lies they were told, because that would be mind control. The stuff of fairies and dragons. Wage theft wouldn't be the most common kind of theft in America (which iit is) without people standing up for themselves and their rights, because that would be a kind of magic.

And the hyperbole is a bit much. No, it's unlikely there's an extra grave for the kid, unless they splurge for it. Claims of cremation are more likely, and they wouldn't have to do a thing for that excuse.

And who the hell brings all of their friends from out of state to their hospital when they give birth? No one knows when they need to rush to the hospital, and many women are lucky to have even their partner there when it happens. To expect everyone they know to be there when it happens really is the stuff of fantasies. If you happen to know someone who had all of their loved ones live close by and have the luxury (and determination) to spend weeks on standby, then good for you. That's not how it goes for most people.

And no, what I laid out doesn't require them to have never met Neil. If he got threatened and bullied enough to not tell people about MC (assuming Lynette's friends reach out to him on more than one or two occassions), then it's very believable for him not to tell them the truth. Especially if he got coerced into signing somethinng shady (that wouldn't stand up in court, but Neil doesn't know that).

If all of that is seriously more likely in your opinion, that the only 2 people she has left, her 2 best friends being at the hospital with her as she gives birth, all 3 of them being 19 years of age and any "out of state" being obviously not true since Neil drove not only to work at the hotel every morning he also hung out there when he ran into Lynette, then we just gotta agree to disagree and watch how the story unfolds.

 

[dalli_x]

Oh, so what you ment is that it wasn't a inheritance from Lynette at all, but rather from either her mom or dad aka one of the MC's grandparents dying ?

If that's what you ment, then there still would be no legal way to confuse who actually died. The MC would have been notified of the death (if he was determined to be one of the benefactors) and then, being of legal age, he has to sign and accept his inheritance and no he can't pawn that of to his dad.

And given what he got, it would have to have been via a will, because as a grandson you don't inherit your mothers clothes or diary, but you do climb the inheritance ladder if there are no children, if what you say is true and Lynette was an only child it would have been the remaining spouse(grandparent) and then the MC.

So the inheritance via will would absolutely be possible, but not sneak it past the MC.

What if there is an executor?

This person is then responsible after the death of the testator (grandfather) to implement the last will and testament of the testator (grandfather) and to divide the inheritance and if necessary also to manage.

If the inheritance, is not Lynette's, which is probably because Neil said that Lynette was not rich, but her father who did not want to help them.

But if grandfather has a will and has named an executor (Priscilla), the executor must carry out grandfather's last will and testament. For example, if grandfather's will is that the MC should first prove himself worthy to receive the full inheritance and not just the statutory compulsory portion?

This may include so that the MC does not get the check and the package with the clothes and the diary until he is 19. Why? It may be the grandfather's will so that the MC reads something specific in his mother's diary that discredits Neil. At 19, the MC is old enough to handle something like that. But why at 19 and not at 18?

Maybe because Lynette was 19 when she delivered the MC and died.

 

[Doorknocker]

If all of that is seriously more likely in your opinion, that the only 2 people she has left, her 2 best friends being at the hospital with her as she gives birth, all 3 of them being 19 years of age and any "out of state" being obviously not true since Neil drove not only to work at the hotel every morning he also hung out there when he ran into Lynette, then we just gotta agree to disagree and watch how the story unfolds.

Man, you're really dodging the points here, aren't you? It's not an opinion, but a fact that people don't know when a child is actually going to come out. For everyone be there, they'd have to be free, close, and ready to go there. There are plenty of stats that indicate how unlikely that is. I know plenty of mothers who gave birth to children alone. Working construction, Neil would be lucky to even get the call and be able to drop everything immediately. If he had guys able to cover for him, finish what he was doing, and take care of take down/taking care of his tools, then sure.

Edit: Also, how quickly did Lynette give birth after arriving at the hospital? How proactively did she start heading out? Were there people available at that exact moment? There are a lot of variables there. To say that no, it's completely unbelieveable and the stuff of "fairies and dragons" to say that her friends weren't absolutely there, is not at all a reasonable or realistic statement.

And no, Neil drving his way to work at the hotel every day is not proof that Lynette's friends lived close by. They traveled a far distance to see Lynette the one time that she wrote about; far enough that it sure sounded out of state to me. And we have no idea whether Neil and Lynette stayed there when she ran away with him. So to assume Lynette's friends were close by when she gave birth is an unreasonable assumption.

I have no idea how their exact age matters here or why you brought it up, but I definitely agree to disagree. I definitly don't hink that the most likely scenerio is that Lynette is alive and that Neil has been lying to MC and deceiving him this whole time.

Edit: And possibly kidnapping him in this case? Your theory seems to assume he was taken against Lynnette's wishes. And dude, there's a million ways to put a stop to that over 19 years.

 

[Real_JeffBezos_64]

What if there is an executor?

This person is then responsible after the death of the testator (grandfather) to implement the last will and testament of the testator (grandfather) and to divide the inheritance and if necessary also to manage.

If the inheritance, is not Lynette's, which is probably because Neil said that Lynette was not rich, but her father who did not want to help them.

But if grandfather has a will and has named an executor (Priscilla), the executor must carry out grandfather's last will and testament. For example, if grandfather's will is that the MC should first prove himself worthy to receive the full inheritance and not just the statutory compulsory portion?

This may include so that the MC does not get the check and the package with the clothes and the diary until he is 19. Why? It may be the grandfather's will so that the MC reads something specific in his mother's diary that discredits Neil. At 19, the MC is old enough to handle something like that. But why at 19 and not at 18?

Maybe because Lynette was 19 when she delivered the MC and died.

I highly doubt the grandfather/grandmother left the money. Since they were rich as the story covered they absolutely had a will, and since they practically disinherited their own daughter for dating a construction worker they definitely didn't care about their grandson who was born to a poor household.

The inheritance was most likely from Lynette without a will. When this happens the funds would go into probate (basically divided by the court based on the states laws). As to why the MC would have gotten the willed items at 19 I have no idea. I don't think there would be a legal reason for him to get the will at 19 instead of 18, but Neil not knowing anything about the contents of the inheritance does make sense as he wouldn't be involved in the process since they weren't married.

 

[Doorknocker]

And despite the rabbit hole I just traveled down, it's worth mentioning again the possiblility that DPC might not understand how inheritance works in the US, or perhaps he's decided to go with how things work in Sweden.

 

[sultan21king]

Hi
Can anyone please help
At the start of season 3 episode 9
The conversation between Tommy and the other guy
My game always crashes when the other guys says the mansion is scary
No matter what save I use or
If I try and download a game and use no cheats it always crashes
I also tried downloading saves from the internet to see if they work but they crash as well

Anyone else has this same problem
Please advise what to do

 

[Real_JeffBezos_64]

Hi
Can anyone please help
At the start of season 3 episode 9
The conversation between Tommy and the other guy
My game always crashes when the other guys says the mansion is scary
No matter what save I use or
If I try and download a game and use no cheats it always crashes
I also tried downloading saves from the internet to see if they work but they crash as well

Anyone else has this same problem
Please advise what to do

I've heard a lot of issues with scrappy mod in episode 9 if you try to do multiple paths at the same time. If you are having an issue with saves downloaded from the internet on a vanilla game then it is probably a pc problem but I don't really know enough to help.