ChipLecsap

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Forced to fill the blank? I completely disagree that this game failed to show the necessary details. I and many on this forum have argued (seemingly endlessly) that the question of who Jill is and what was going on there was very clear. There was no ambiguity for many of us. So this is just a situation of some people not understanding the story and characters, and some people understanding it. That's going to happen in pretty much any story but the most obnoxiously simple, crude, and basic stories. Certainly any story with subtext.
Who Jill is is actually the reason why it doesn't make sense, why she cut ties with MC, who is wanting to help someone in need, She of all people should be the one who is understanding, hell even offering to also help :ROFLMAO:

so I don't know why some so surprised when other scratching their head a bit, about this

Just like, the same way, when a Fuck Buddy MC suddenly doesn't want to be the rebound guy for Sage , right after he confessed Jill that he falling for her.:ROFLMAO:
 

Doorknocker

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Who Jill is is actually the reason why it doesn't make sense, why she cut ties with MC, who is wanting to help someone in need, She of all people should be the one who is understanding, hell even offeringto also help :ROFLMAO:

so I don't know why some so surprised when other scratching their head a bit, about this
I'm not surprised if some people didn't get it (especially if they didn't actually play through the picnic). I'm arguing against people claiming that there was nothing to get. And Jill doesn't cut ties with the MC. She decides to not be his girlfriend. She describes thier relationship as a nice friendship in Episode 9. That's not cutting ties.

Also, it's not a matter of her being understanding or not. Shazba went over this at length. The circumstances are very specific. But the power of denial is strong, and people are still ignoring the context.
 

ChipLecsap

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I'm not surprised if some people didn't get it (especially if they didn't actually play through the picnic). I'm arguing against people claiming that there was nothing to get. And Jill doesn't cut ties with the MC. She decides to not be his girlfriend. She describes thier relationship as a nice friendship in Episode 9. That's not cutting ties.

Also, it's not a matter of her being understanding or not. Shazba went over this at length. The circumstances are very specific. But the power of denial is strong, and people are still ignoring the context.
The context is very simple. You go to picnic, and you have chick affinity or neutral affinity, otherwise, you fucked. that's the context.:LOL:

and BTW , Yes, She cut ties with MC, She cut ties so hard you won't even noticed you are off from her path, until the end of episode 8 when She doesn't show up as available option.:whistle::ROFLMAO:

or when She reject MC , who then stand there scratching his head not understanding what he did wrong, right after he just helped her to achieve her dream. :ROFLMAO:
 
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The context is very simple. You go to picnic, and you have chick affinity or neutral affinity, otherwise, you fucked. that's the context.:LOL:
and BTW , Yes, She cut ties with MC, She cut ties so hard you won't even noticed you are off from her path, until the end of episode 8 when She doesn't show up as available option.:whistle::ROFLMAO:
So maybe the problem here is not that we don't understand what happened...it's just that DPC screwed up and left too many things up in the air or didn't explain good enough what he had in mind :LOL:
 

Doorknocker

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The context is very simple. You go to picnic, and you have chick affinity or neutral affinity, otherwise, you fucked. that's the context.:LOL:
and BTW , Yes, She cut ties with MC, She cut ties so hard you won't even noticed you are off from her path, until the end of episode 8 when She doesn't show up as available option.:whistle::ROFLMAO:
Ah, there we go. Straight forward, conscious, willful lies/trolling. None of this subconsious denial stuff. Cool. No point in engaging now.
 

The Glorious LIME

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Just for fun, not trying to offend anyone.

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There are other games I played 1-3 routes maybe with CTRL, some I barely force myself to finish the 1 route.

But I got give praise to BaDIK.
One of the rare few games I wanna play all paths/affinities. And I'm not talking about AVNs only, but overall.
 

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There are other games I played 1-3 routes maybe with CTRL, some I barely force myself to finish the 1 route.

But I got give praise to BaDIK.
One of the rare few games I wanna play all paths/affinities. And I'm not talking about AVNs only, but overall.
I have only two games at the moment with several routes, maybe three will be later. There are very few high quality AVNs.
 
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Envy*

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There are other games I played 1-3 routes maybe with CTRL, some I barely force myself to finish the 1 route.

But I got give praise to BaDIK.
One of the rare few games I wanna play all paths/affinities. And I'm not talking about AVNs only, but overall.
For me it's the opposite, the only game where I kept only one save and kept Bella... at least until there is a route for Quinn.
 

Redneckp

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I'm not surprised if some people didn't get it (especially if they didn't actually play through the picnic). I'm arguing against people claiming that there was nothing to get. And Jill doesn't cut ties with the MC. She decides to not be his girlfriend. She describes thier relationship as a nice friendship in Episode 9. That's not cutting ties.

Also, it's not a matter of her being understanding or not. Shazba went over this at length. The circumstances are very specific. But the power of denial is strong, and people are still ignoring the context.
Your argument is agree with me because i get it, i'm right in my interpretation of what happened offscreen, in RL you don't get do-overs, you don't have the chance to go to both places and see what happens in the picnic, it's bad storytelling and i wish people stopped supporting it and defending it. All we got was the cold shoulder the day after and her telling you "so, why haven't you shown it more" when MC tells her that he want's to see her, he even explains everything to her, but she doesn't want to hear it cuz she's a spoiled brat. The only interpretation possible without knowing what happens in the picnic is that she's pissed you blow her off to treat a sick friend, cuz she needs to control your every move the same way she forced helped you with the "bullies". Sage being sick was a sign to stay clear of crazy.
 

ChipLecsap

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Your argument is agree with me because i get it, i'm right in my interpretation of what happened offscreen, in RL you don't get do-overs, you don't have the chance to go to both places and see what happens in the picnic, it's bad storytelling and i wish people stopped supporting it and defending it. All we got was the cold shoulder the day after and her telling you "so, why haven't you shown it more" when MC tells her that he want's to see her, he even explains everything to her, but she doesn't want to hear it cuz she's a spoiled brat. The only interpretation possible without knowing what happens in the picnic is that she's pissed you blow her off to treat a sick friend, cuz she needs to control your every move the same way she forced helped you with the "bullies". Sage being sick was a sign to stay clear of crazy.
The funny thing about that, She actually don't say that to MC. That is an Inner monologue of Jill that only We as the Player see, but the MC doesn't hear it :LOL:
 

znar25

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We've been told by DPC that Bella's disguise wasn't enough to fool people. Sage, Maya and Josy see through it. Therefore the assumption is that most students would have too.

The question is whether those that see through the costume also see her with Fuckface and put 2 and 2 together regarding her presence or whether they just think she's going incognito to have some fun.
Also on the Bella path, right before the blackout. When MC comes into the room, Bella immediately says that they figured out it was her. Now, granted, the people in the room would keep that part secret, but now they know Bella, just now, immediately told MC the second she saw him. Now, they may think it is something more than Bella just showing up to the party. Then too, dancing with Bella. Knowing all the other subtle adjustments DPC makes in the game (example: if you name MC "Oscar", and so on)...this may be interesting for the Bella path. With that though, I think if Sage, Josy and Maya knew that MC and Bella were close, they have enough respect for that situation.
 

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I'm not surprised if some people didn't get it (especially if they didn't actually play through the picnic). I'm arguing against people claiming that there was nothing to get. And Jill doesn't cut ties with the MC. She decides to not be his girlfriend. She describes thier relationship as a nice friendship in Episode 9. That's not cutting ties.

Also, it's not a matter of her being understanding or not. Shazba went over this at length. The circumstances are very specific. But the power of denial is strong, and people are still ignoring the context.
Many people in real life act worse.

It is normal for someone to look out for their own interests. The Jill-is-upset-about-MC-going-to-help-Sage thing is tiring.
 
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Envy*

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All this whining about mods again ? Especially with misinformation... All that needs to be done is a big sticky note that says "If you used a mod, dont have multiple paths open at the end of ep8 or ep9 will break/loop for you"... Boom its that easy !

Nothing to do with the stupid response about how "boo hoo play the game without mods"... I honestly prefer when people just act meaner instead of spreading that dumbass response... Like when they say " OMG use search function, that question has been answered a hundred times"... At least that one is true... The other one is a blatant lie by sheep that support DPC's hatred of mods, cause playing the shitty mini games (dont touch the borders, and word soup) is so fun ! or having 20 save files is also awesome sauce.

The mod doesnt break the game, take it from someone that didnt even update Scrappy's mod and didnt have a single problem whatsoever... What did I do ? modded my game to have every single LI path open till the end when Elena gives her advice and you have to pick a person... dont pick "mod:all"... simple !!! Someone here even mentioned how DPC had said on his Patreon or Discord that anyone having multiple girls open was gonna cry in ep9 as their games wouldnt work... It was a clear hads up.

But saying using the cheat at all breaks the game is flat out wrong... some people literally only use it to up RP points, and get Money, thats it, not for having multiple girls in one go. I'm sorry that some of us dont enjoy playing brawler, or having the MC steal money from wherever he can find it, with the risk that in some cases it will cause storywise problems that you grabbed 1$ in a dumbass freeroam you needed to pay Rinoa to sit on the MC's cock before she overdoses on Opium.
It depends on which mod you used, with Sancho's there is no risk since at the end of episode 8, there is no "all" as a choice, just the classic paths (according to the affinities and the choices you made during the two seasons) and the other.
 

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Short question: I don't need to be in a relationship with Jil in order to get close(r) with Bella later, do I? I hope Bella's content isn't hardlocked behind Jill's path or something.

Edit: Also, does someone know the the title of the sad song with the female singer in the game? It's a girl singing over acoustic guitar, usually comes up with Bella scenes I think.
 
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