VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[lobotomist]

Not at all, Josy does have struggles and a goals to accomplish like her relationship with MC with or without Maya, Josy is a very strong character but if there is anything that holds Josy back is her willingness to put what she wants on the back- burner but that is part of her story and is likely something we will she Josy grow out of slowly has season 3 goes on.

So i said that her weakness is that her character is only about relationships. and what you respond is about more co-dependency on someone else. The fact that every example you come up with is more of that is the evidence that she lacks a character arc. She starts very strong as a character because she had the goal/struggle of being in the waiting list for entering college and the past failed relationship which made her analog to tremolo therefore relatable, but all of that gets solved early on so now she has no character arc, that's the reason you can't come up with an answer that is only about her.
Soanswer me this, wouldn't you prefer if there was a character arc from her that you have to help her and has nothing to do with her relations with other characters?
And before you answer. Take a second to think: "Am I once again answering to 'her only traits are relations' with 'she also has relations'"

 

[felicemastronzo]

MC hanged a leaf on his wall and posts pictures of it, its clear his feelings have changed, will see about Sage

Mchick is clearly completely in love (but with all of them to tell the truth)

already in the third chapter Sage cared about MC, that's nothing new, it's not like he was ever just a dildo with arms for her
there's an evolution in the relationship, but I don't see any jumps, and the sexual side remains the predominant one

 

[Orgitas]

I think Sage was pretty much content with the FWB thing. Though by the time of the Chicks party I believe she started to fancy the MC. However still content with the FWB thing. Then come the revelation at the end of Chapter 8 that was the turning point. Taking that step to be an item.

 

[Jumbi]

Alright here we go,

Comparing EP4 & EP8
I'd say that's plenty progression for more than a fuckbuddy.

Spoiler: EP 4

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Spoiler: EP 8

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Here we have EP5, some bold flirting...

Spoiler: EP 5

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I consider this a romantic moment and this was even before Fuckface bitched about wanting more.

Spoiler: EP 5 R

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In EP8 this moment speaks for itself and that leaf well that shit holds more sentimental value than a fucking polaroid I'll tell you that much.

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Let's look at EP9 even though it's a party STILL lets search for some romantic shit okay,
Hmm... these don't fall into romantic category I don't think, but cute definitely or maybe that's just me

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And you gotta love them EGO boosts.

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Let's not forget the text messages.

Spoiler: EP 8 Texts

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I'd say for a couple who haven't even gone to their first date yet these are plenty romantic. (pretty sure I missed to mention some)
Not to mention the Honeymoon Phase they'll get when they're officially "Boyfriend" & "Girlfriend"

Nice compilation of sweet moments with Sage, my buddy.

And on top of all that, I would add that it is good that our progression with each girl in the game feels unique. If they all were similar, the experience would be less rewarding.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think Sage was pretty much content with the FWB thing. Though by the time of the Chicks party I believe she started to fancy the MC. However still content with the FWB thing. Then come the revelation at the end of Chapter 8 that was the turning point. Taking that step to be an item.

For me, the rebound guy is a misdirection, which the characters themselves have completely forgotten.


personally, the real turning point was the hang out with sick Sage, where she wants to open up with MC but she can't. and in fact she hasn't succeeded yet, because, ok, she tells him about her adoptive family, but they're on the verge of meeting, so more out of necessity than by choice, without even telling him who they are (but that's DPC's fault).

but then it's enough that an uncomfortable topic like Sage's birth family is touched upon and we're back to anger management issues. so there's been no real opening yet

 

[Darkwen]

So i said that her weakness is that her character is only about relationships. and what you respond is about more co-dependency on someone else. The fact that every example you come up with is more of that is the evidence that she lacks a character arc. She starts very strong as a character because she had the goal/struggle of being in the waiting list for entering college and the past failed relationship which made her analog to tremolo therefore relatable, but all of that gets solved early on so now she has no character arc, that's the reason you can't come up with an answer that is only about her.
Soanswer me this, wouldn't you prefer if there was a character arc from her that you have to help her and has nothing to do with her relations with other characters?
And before you answer. Take a second to think: "Am I once again answering to 'her only traits are relations' with 'she also has relations'"

First don't tell me how to answer ep 8 MC helps Josy say no to Becky yeah that is a little thing but is something that can be build on. Josy kicks the shit out of Tommy, out smarts Quinn twice which is more then any other character. You say my examples only shows Josy lack of a character arc but in every example I give it is Josy taking the lead so really you just don't like the arc. So what do we know about Josy, is independent, resourceful, good at sex, a bad ass, smart, good with money, hates tommy doesn't like her mom and a daddy's girl. out going, daring and can add dik leaning . Season one is about Mc being in love with Josy season two is fallout from Josy relationship with Maya does mc want in or not. Does Josy have a arc like Sage or Quinn no but don't tell me she doesn't have one because it isn't true.

 

[Machete]

For me, the rebound guy is a misdirection, which the characters themselves have completely forgotten.


personally, the real turning point was the hang out with sick Sage, where she wants to open up with MC but she can't. and in fact she hasn't succeeded yet, because, ok, she tells him about her adoptive family, but they're on the verge of meeting, so more out of necessity than by choice, without even telling him who they are (but that's DPC's fault).

but then it's enough that an uncomfortable topic like Sage's birth family is touched upon and we're back to anger management issues. so there's been no real opening yet

I don't know dude. All original main LIs of the game are rather lame to me. Sage is a boring person rather self focused. Maya and Josy... don't even get me started. Bella is cool, but when i was 19 the last thing i would have wanted would have been to date a 30-something woman. Really? I don't need a vice-mommy. Jill... she's not bad overall, she's just as boring as hanging around with a corpse and she share the same problem of Sage: she's about to graduate and go on with her life, so she (and Sage) are just good for fuck material.

Narratively speaking, MC was supposed to be the fish out of water dropped in unknown territory and everyone was supposed to know the stuff he didn't, so it makes sense that he met older girls that were not fresh(wo)men. Yet, they don't really work as main LIs in the contest.

Now, not many of us here are super young and a 21-22 woman to us is just juicy as well as a 35 or even a 45 for a big chunk of us, but immersion is to be in the shoes of the MC and at 19 i sure wasn't chaising after grown ups.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Alright here we go,

Comparing EP4 & EP8
I'd say that's plenty progression for more than a fuckbuddy.

Spoiler: EP 4

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Spoiler: EP 8

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Here we have EP5, some bold flirting...

Spoiler: EP 5

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I consider this a romantic moment and this was even before Fuckface bitched about wanting more.

Spoiler: EP 5 R

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In EP8 this moment speaks for itself and that leaf well that shit holds more sentimental value than a fucking polaroid I'll tell you that much.

Spoiler: EP 8

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Let's look at EP9 even though it's a party STILL lets search for some romantic shit okay,
Hmm... these don't fall into romantic category I don't think, but cute definitely or maybe that's just me

Spoiler: EP 9

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And you gotta love them EGO boosts.

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Let's not forget the text messages.

Spoiler: EP 8 Texts

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I'd say for a couple who haven't even gone to their first date yet these are plenty romantic. (pretty sure I missed to mention some)
Not to mention the Honeymoon Phase they'll get when they're officially "Boyfriend" & "Girlfriend"

Buddy, these hints just perfectly show the development of relationships, just to the point. Especially the difference is where Sage jokingly throws MC off the bed, and in Ep.8 cuddles with him and kisses him on the forehead. I'm a bad romantic, but this is a beautiful moment, one of the best in the game, without the lewd showing emotional intimacy. Cheers!

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Sage's path is a rollercoaster, a bit messy, but it's hard to call it boring

but to say that in fact MC and Sage are 'still' fuckbuddies is not so wrong, the whole rebound guy thing went nowhere, the relationship didn't take that step that could have been expected and went backwards a bit.

but in such a long game some lulls are normal, the trouple was on hiatus for practically the whole second season...

I can only agree with you about the rebound guy, it was a bit weird. I chalk it up to how DPC loves drama or the fact that MC is a snowflake.

 

[Orgitas]

For me, the rebound guy is a misdirection, which the characters themselves have completely forgotten.


personally, the real turning point was the hang out with sick Sage, where she wants to open up with MC but she can't. and in fact she hasn't succeeded yet, because, ok, she tells him about her adoptive family, but they're on the verge of meeting, so more out of necessity than by choice, without even telling him who they are (but that's DPC's fault).

but then it's enough that an uncomfortable topic like Sage's birth family is touched upon and we're back to anger management issues. so there's been no real opening yet

Ohright, forgot about the Sick Sage bit. Yes, that makes sense!

 

[NebulousShooter]

I can only agree with you about the rebound guy, it was a bit weird. I chalk it up to how DPC loves drama or the fact that MC is a snowflake.

I admit that I am biased, but the rebound guy I 100% blame it on MC(well and DPC stalling for all other LI to catch up for the big juice Crossroads choice ) No matter how much I dislike that story bit, I've never thought it reflects badly on Sage, its all MC.


You don't refuse kissing this Sage unless you are an imbecile.

 

[Orgitas]

I admit that I am biased, but the rebound guy I 100% blame it on MC(well and DPC stalling for all other LI to catch up for the big juice Crossroads choice ) No matter how much I dislike that story bit, I've never thought it reflects badly on Sage, its all MC.

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You don't refuse kissing this Sage unless you are an imbecile.

I am not entirely convinced that Sage isn't a Succubus.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I admit that I am biased, but the rebound guy I 100% blame it on MC(well and DPC stalling for all other LI to catch up for the big juice Crossroads choice ) No matter how much I dislike that story bit, I've never thought it reflects badly on Sage, its all MC.

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You don't refuse kissing this Sage unless you are an imbecile.

I don't have a run where I don't "have fun" with Sage, in my multiverse this is a basic law that happens in all realities.
MC should stop being a pussy and kiss her no matter how he feels!


It's just a goddamn law of nature, just like the one that says Derek should end up with Linda Henderson.

 

[toobextra]

Buddy, these hints just perfectly show the development of relationships, just to the point. Especially the difference is where Sage jokingly throws MC off the bed, and in Ep.8 cuddles with him and kisses him on the forehead. I'm a bad romantic, but this is a beautiful moment, one of the best in the game, without the lewd showing emotional intimacy. Cheers!

Exactly, and Sage is not good at dealing with feelings she said so herself.

Oh I literally forgot mention this conversation in Episode 4.

Spoiler: EP 4

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[NebulousShooter]

I don't have a run where I don't "have fun" with Sage, in my multiverse this is a basic law that happens in all realities.
MC should stop being a pussy and kiss her no matter how he feels!
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It's just a goddamn law of nature, just like the one that says Derek should end up with Linda Henderson.

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[felicemastronzo]

I don't know dude. All original main LIs of the game are rather lame to me. Sage is a boring person rather self focused. Maya and Josy... don't even get me started. Bella is cool, but when i was 19 the last thing i would have wanted would have been to date a 30-something woman. Really? I don't need a vice-mommy. Jill... she's not bad overall, she's just as boring as hanging around with a corpse and she share the same problem of Sage: she's about to graduate and go on with her life, so she (and Sage) are just good for fuck material.

Narratively speaking, MC was supposed to be the fish out of water dropped in unknown territory and everyone was supposed to know the stuff he didn't, so it makes sense that he met older girls that were not fresh(wo)men. Yet, they don't really work as main LIs in the contest.

Now, not many of us here are super young and a 21-22 woman to us is just juicy as well as a 35 or even a 45 for a big chunk of us, but immersion is to be in the shoes of the MC and at 19 i sure wasn't chaising after grown ups.

BADIK is a porn game and should be measured as such.
Sage is an interesting LI in the AVN scene and Bella is a credible LI in an AVN (how many MILFs and horny teachers are there in the various games?).

we're talking about the first love, the first important relationship, not the love of a lifetime. the fact that Sage is a senior seems irrelevant to me, they still have 6 months to go, which at that age is a long time, however it ends it will be a success

in "realism" Mc would end up in the Jocks and be engaged to someone of Ashley's level, or the girl from the coffee shop, nothing more

 

[alterdork]

Just dropping a random comment to say that I'm so glad to see that other people named the MC "Fuckface"

 

[TRKaiser]

Sage is a person whose parents are not around and was adopted into a wealthy douche family. The husband is helping a sex-ring using the HOTs at his school since it has his name in it and he has the power, a mom who stays in a unhappy marriage because of the status it gives here, she has a brother who acts like he is the best thing around and that the world is here to serve him.
We don't know if she was given away but she may have issues due to that as well. that will stop her from forming relationships and close bonds in fear of abandonment...On top of that we know she was recently cheated on that does not help the situation.

Sage isn't the most attractive MG in my eyes, but she does have one of, if not the most, intriguing and interesting potential future paths. Quinn to me is the most interesting though and I would love if her story keeps building the way it has been.

 

[Ilhares]

we're talking about the first love, the first important relationship

That would be Zoey, then.

 

[dalli_x]

First don't tell me how to answer ep 8 MC helps Josy say no to Becky yeah that is a little thing but is something that can be build on. Josy kicks the shit out of Tommy, out smarts Quinn twice which is more then any other character. You say my examples only shows Josy lack of a character arc but in every example I give it is Josy taking the lead so really you just don't like the arc. So what do we know about Josy, is independent, resourceful, good at sex, a bad ass, smart, good with money, hates tommy doesn't like her mom and a daddy's girl. out going, daring and can add dik leaning . Season one is about Mc being in love with Josy season two is fallout from Josy relationship with Maya does mc want in or not. Does Josy have a arc like Sage or Quinn no but don't tell me she doesn't have one because it isn't true.

My good believe me when I write that Josy still has one or two surprises in store for us. No idea whether it will be positive or negative surprises.

One thing is actually already settled for me. Josy didn't want to let the MC into her room in EP2 because she is very messy and hadn't cleaned up her room. You only have to look under Josy's bed once.