VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Kpyna]

I old my MC from doing something stupid. Of course we have different saves. We would have the same if I played all the branches. I don't care if something bad would happen to my MC, it's just so I think Josy and Maya are the best LIs for the MC for more reasons than one. It's an interactive fim for me too. But my interactions are aimed at Josy and Maya.

I actually like all the girls more or less. But my ranking them like this.

1. Josy and Maya
2. Elena
3. Sally
4. Zoey
5. Lily

My point was that you miss the content and valuable/exciting parts of story made by DPC by not playing other branches. You like to find clues and search for different hints, so since Season 3 you limit yourself even more than before. It's very adorable to explore game and plot from different sides and points of view. This helps to construct a whole picture, to find as many puzzle pieces as possible. You don't have to like or "love" a particular characters and girls. When you watch movie or read a book, I suppose you don't turn off the TV or swap the book pages because you don't like some character or not interested in him.

There is another good hint for Chad to be gay and I even discovered it. When talking on the phone Chad says so he wets his two fingers and sticks them in. Either Chad is a loser who can't get a woman wet, which is actually true, or he stuck his fingers up someone's ass. Combined with Chad saying in EP1 that he takes care of the MC's ass and also Anthony saying that so that sounds pretty gay, you could conclude that Chad is gay.

Such theorization is good when you already know what's happened and the truth. What about woman ass?
Anyway it's only a hints. There were no any 100% evidences. So you'd have to stick to such version from the beginning until truth unfolds later to "win" this contest of conclusions. Otherwise it becomes a waving fists after the fight.

But my biggest fear is so everything is a huge feint by DPC. The full shock moment when we should learn so Chad and Troy are not gay but bi.

I think it's not plausible. We seen Chad with Sage years ago. And his "steroids" and "dick" problems probably lasts from the beginning. He lied to her and used her as beard from the beginning. To create a fake facade of a tough guy jock who has the coolest girl in college. And we have to learn why Troy was kicked out from Alphas. It's not the gay thing, since Alphas know that Chad is still in contact with Troy. Otherwise he would lost all respect and authority among them.

I have something else for you.
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Thanks, but I posted it twice before.

 

[Chutoro]

Good idea Acsuka!

Back with another poll.
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I don't want to influence your vote but please check THIS! before voting.

Thank you.

PS: I am open to any ideas on how to conduct these polls. For instance, we can make limited selections, hide the results to not influence it, etc...

Even with my “subtle” attempt to increase votes for Rio, it seems she and Lily are tied with nine votes. Next time I have to think of something more creative and sneaky.

Oh, another poll...
But this time I'll be more careful
Who is the hottest HOT? Who is the hottest HOT?! What kind of question is that?
The answer is obvious - my precious, divine Quinn
Knights of Quinn - En guard!
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Actually, this time I tweaked with poll options so that you can change your vote later. Just for you.

 

[dalli_x]

Hi everyone. This is my first topic in this wonderful section.

In early 2022, I stumbled upon this captivating game. Season 2 had just concluded, with Episode 8 being the latest release. Being my first experience with a visual novel, it left me with a plethora of emotions and a unique sense of fulfillment. Since discovering the game, I've actively engaged with its forums, immersing myself in discussions about the characters and the unfolding storyline. I've closely monitored the progress of upcoming episodes and everything related to the game. Throughout this journey, I've found myself contemplating two intriguing questions:

1. From its initial release in 2019 until the present day, the game has undergone a continuous evolution. The visual models have steadily improved, seemingly growing and transforming with each new episode. As the narrative deepens, we uncover fresh facets of the characters' personalities. In a way, we, as players, parallel this evolution. Especially for those who joined the game's journey between 2019 and 2020 – a period spanning more than four years! Engaging with the game and eagerly awaiting new episodes, we also undergo personal growth and change. I believe that over this time, the DPC has similarly evolved, shaping an incredible story. Some players voice concerns that certain characters have altered their behavior, no longer adhering to their previous selves. However, isn't change an inherent part of our own lives as well? The fascinating aspect is that the characters also metamorphose, much like we do, over extended periods, and this transformation will continue. What are your thoughts on this phenomenon?

2. Now, I'd love to hear your perspective on another aspect: If given the choice, what would you prefer? Would you opt to experience the entire game at once (let's say in two substantial parts, each consisting of 7-8 episodes, with a total of 15 released over 2-3 years at most)? Or do you enjoy the current gradual unfolding of the game? The game's development and episode releases may be slow, but I find it preferable. It allows both the game and its players to change and adapt together. This gradual approach ensures a sustained and delightful experience. After all, it has already been four years (for those who began playing in 2019). Had everything been released at once, it might have faded into obscurity within a year. The joy of discovering the stories would have passed, as the entire narrative would have been laid bare. However, now, players cherish fond memories of past episodes while eagerly anticipating what lies ahead. It might be a slow process, but it keeps the game alive. If everything had been published in 2020, the game would have become a fleeting memory for us.

I'd like to clarify that my focus is solely on the experience of playing the game, excluding factors related to the game's development by DPC and any economic considerations. Let's delve into the sheer delight of immersing ourselves in this incredible journey!

Playing the completely finished game would destroy the interest in the game itself, because then the replay value would not be given. Due to the waiting time between the release of the EPs, many play through all branches.

But the problem is the waiting time. 6-8 months is still okay, but it should not become more, because the players turn to other games in the meantime, whereby with a longer waiting period the interest in BaDIK can be lost, because the players turn their interest to other games. But a wait of 1 to 2 months would be too short because the progression of the story is too small.

On the whole, I think so DPC has found a good balance.

 

[Hahn1900]

2. Now, I'd love to hear your perspective on another aspect: If given the choice, what would you prefer? Would you opt to experience the entire game at once (let's say in two substantial parts, each consisting of 7-8 episodes, with a total of 15 released over 2-3 years at most)? Or do you enjoy the current gradual unfolding of the game? The game's development and episode releases may be slow, but I find it preferable. It allows both the game and its players to change and adapt together. This gradual approach ensures a sustained and delightful experience. After all, it has already been four years (for those who began playing in 2019). Had everything been released at once, it might have faded into obscurity within a year. The joy of discovering the stories would have passed, as the entire narrative would have been laid bare. However, now, players cherish fond memories of past episodes while eagerly anticipating what lies ahead. It might be a slow process, but it keeps the game alive. If everything had been published in 2020, the game would have become a fleeting memory for us.

Hi there...

Well, of course it would be nice to have the game completed at this point. But it will take at least another 5 or 6 years or even more. Hopefully it will not get abandoned like so many others or rushed in the end cause DEVs lost interest.

In this case of being a dik i think it works very good that its released in episodes with some time between them. But i say this loud and clear, iam not pleased with the time between them like it is now... 5-6 months betweens episodes would be fine, 9-10 or even more not so much. Yeah DPC produces more content and renders then anybody else, and even in the best quality around here too, (at least top 5) Buuuut at some point it just takes too long and the animations and such are not really worth the additional development time. The game evolved, but i would say the quality of episode 6 or 7 would be more than fine if it would take the same development time... like 5 or 6 months. But ep 9 took 9 months, and it wasnt worth the longer wait.

That said, for the "feelings" to play the game... the pause between the episodes is a good thing. You have so many different branches in that game, even after playing more than 15 playthroughs there are still some combinations i didnt try and sometimes i see something new i didnt saw before. That is just awesome. And in most episodes is happening a lot, some things even with a heavy impact. And to make those "nasty" cliffhangers work, there has to be a "pause" between the episodes, since they dont work if you can continue til the end.

Its always a little different to play another playthrough and you know after an episode that the game goes on, but the latest episode always has a little bit a "special" feeling to it, even if you played it a lot. Cause in my mind there are running many scenarios through it what can happen in the next one... If i could play the whole game at once, there wouldnt be the time to process those scenarios or make my mind wonder. So yeah, its a good thing that there is waiting time between the episodes, but 9 months or more per episode is too long. Especially if i think about WHY it takes so long now... cause of the unnecessary things DPC is adding a lot lately... Well it is what it is.

But yeah, over all, if the game would be released complete, it wouldnt have worked for me like it does now. And i think it wouldnt have sticked with me that long.

And to be fair... compared to a real good book, or maybe one of the best storytelling triple AAA games out there, being a dik doesnt stand a chance. But you get those as a complete experience, and i play those at "once" or read a book at "once" and after a while, yep things fade out...

For being a dik, at least every third months i make another playthrough from scratch, just to refresh my mind on things and experience everything again, and if a new episode comes out, i always started from the beginning again, not with the new episode for the first playthrough. it feels better this way.

There are other AVNs around here where i give up to wait on updates and will wait until they are complete. Most of the AVNs here doesnt "Work" like being a dik does. Maybe because there arent that many interesting characters or storybranches, i dont know. But in that regard being a dik feels unique, and the pause between the episodes is another reason for it i would say...

 

[Jumbi]

Here are all the case When RP point mattered so far, these are not major things YET, but it is there.
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during the hang out scene, You touch Josy panties, and Kiss Maya if your RP is High enough with them
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And of course I can't leave out My Favorite , my Trade mark screenshot
Josy opening her legs, when you pickup maya's pencil and peek
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Got out of reactions, but .

Seriously, man. It is so annoying getting out of reactions. I hate having to think twice before spending one reaction to a post. Does anybody understand the reaction limit thing?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Well, it's kind of cute... in a sense. It's like in "The Witcher" from Netflix. Called a Body Positivity.

Or Aloy in Horizon 2.

So you will deprive yourself from seeing all potential endings? That's why we have different saves, nobody will die or nothing bad will happen to you. Treat it as watching interactive movie.


Believe you or not, but I paid attention to the unfulfilled task at my first playthrough, I didn't need Leon or his glance along the right line to understand what was not completed. Just reading of the words and remembering some things were enough. It's pity if you require Leon "hint" to point out what task you missed on a board.

You mentioned some time ago that some dude found the evidence of Chad & Troy relationship in red sneakers, which was in Troy's room and which Chad was weared too. Other good hint to player is if MC mock Alphas after his confrontation with Chad in cafeteria (MC need to intervene and help Sage, otherwise it lead to alternate dialogue, but it also hints to some Chad "problems"):

ch "You do know that campus security can't always be around to save your pretty little ass?"
"Mock him" if True:
$ dk(1)
$ RPjocks -= 1
mc "Do you think I have a pretty little ass? How gay are you?"
an "Hehe. That sounded pretty gay to me."

Anthony said that it sounded pretty gay to him, while Chad immediately punched him into a gut for saying such a thing. Anthony give us a hint.

jcs "Hahaha!"
mc "Hey, what the hell!?"
ch "You got a problem there, Prince Charming?"
an "Hehe. Yeah! We got a fucking Romeo or something over here."
ch "Shut up, Anthony!"
"Mock him" if True:
$ dk(1)
$ RPjocks -= 1
mc "Did I charm your panties off?"
an "Chad doesn't wear panties."
ch "..."

Anthony give us a hint again.

The above are a good examples of hints and really some valuable clues which probably would able to help with reveal of Chad-Troy gay couple in the EP1 of the game, while otherwise it's being revealed only at the end of EP7.


There're much less moments and alternate scenes with Maya in this case, but they are present. I won't find all of them now, but here are some of them. And while I searched for "feelings for Maya" moments, I also find one extra thing for Throuple and Maya, lol.

EP6 library & study scene:

mc "Thanks, Maya."
if pathMayaJosy and ep6_like_maya:
my "You're welcome."

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elif True:
my "You're welcome."

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Just a little moment. But it shows how Maya carefully and gently shows her sympathy and feelings. While Josy always and anyway devours MC with her eyes So even in Throuple Maya shows her own specific signs of affection and attention.

But let's back to the "ep5_feelingsForMaya" variable.

EP6 cafeteria scene (when MC sits with J&M and Becky is comming):

my "*Whispers* Haha! Anyway... She's a popular girl."
my "*Whispers* We also met at the DIKs' party last weekend."
my "*Whispers* Guess I'm not worthy of being memorable."
if pathMayaJosy or ep5_feelingsForMaya:
$ RPmaya += 1
mc "*Whispers* You're memorable to me."

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EP6 ending scene after J&M leaved the HOTs ceremony and Patrick is going to Maya's dorm room:

my "There isn't anymore. Help me. What do I do?"
mc "We'll figure this out. We have to."
js "Let's go back to our dorm. Ok?"
my "Ok."
if pathMayaJosy or ep5_feelingsForMaya:

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elif True:

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I don't have much free time right now to search the whole game script from EP6 till EP9, but if you interested just search for ep5_feelingsForMaya var, you'll find a few more moments as well as differences in dialogues here and there.

Sometimes it gives you renders from the Throuple path (example with cafeteria & Becky scene), sometimes it's something unique, like the scene above.

Just from memory: in EP7 HOTs party you're able to text Maya if you are in Throuple or if you have feelings for her. Oherwise you can't text her.

Etc, etc.

It is clear that from Maya these feelings are not mutual, at this moment for sure.
If everything is obvious with Josy, then Maya seems to have cooled off towards MC and perceives him as a friend. I don't even know how DPC intends to build Maya's solo outside of the group.

Fuck Jade. Too bad BaD is a VN game and not a hack and slash one. I'll definitely chop her head first.

Too cruel man, you're even scaring me.
It will be punishment enough for her when she finds out that her husband is involved in prostitution shadow ring.

 

[Kpyna]

I think you pay way too much attention to "points", you should pay more attention to whats happening during the scenes. In episode 1-7 if you favor one over the other (which you always have to do in someway) the other girls gets a little dissapointed. This ends with episode 8 and clearly is gone in episode 9. In the throuple all are happy now... no matter what the MC decides. And as far as i can see, you dont lose any points for either maya or josy (not gaining some, doesnt mean you lose them), excpet at some decisions you lose points for both of them, but again... dont pay too much attention to just the "points". To say it frankly... the relationship points in being a dik meant shit so far. I cant recall a single relationship where those points influence anything at all. All that matters are the affinity of the MC at the point for some crucial decisions and the main decisions for those relationships... For Josy and Maya there are only 3 (fuck either Josy or get lewd with MAya in episode 3, try something more with them in ep 4, and last choose them at the end of ep 8) decisions in the game you have to make to get together with them, all the other decisions doesnt matter if you are staying chick.

And regardless of your "relationship points" you will get together and stay together with them if you want to in ep 4 and 8 in the end. Heck... you can even have minus points for one of them (its pretty easy to get into minus territory for one of them) and still be together happy in episode 8 and 9. Thats how much those points mean in the game so far... nothing. And i dont think that this will change. Would feel odd too... during epiosde 9 and episode 8 the three of them are clearly on a happy path together. They are so fucking comfortable with each other now that its not even a problem if the MC fucked more than 10 girls along the road or that Josy made out with Sage in front of Maya and so on... But you think at some point it will goes like this:

"omg i dont have enough points with the MC, lets ditch him" this might be the case in many other AVN around here, where everything depends only on some stupid point system. Luckily being a dik is not that heavily depended on "points" in that regard (especially relationship points). And with episode 9 even the chick/dik points are pretty much gone even if you still get them, cause you will have a permanent affinity there anyways, so those doesnt matter anymore. So much for the "pointsystem" in this game. Its pretty much.... pointless now. And i like that... It should matter more what happened and how the characters and relationships "evolve" during the time beeing instead of some ridiculous pointsystem. Those pointsystem are a curse among AVNs around here anyway... and i think DPC sees it just like that, otherwise you could "see" those relationship anywhere in the game, but you cant... they are hidden, and that has a reason. Cause they are not that important.

I for one will pay more attention to the reaction and actions of the characters, and as i can see it, there is no friction anymore between the three of them if you are in the throuple, so yeah, i dont think the throuple will break soon, maybe near the end of the whole game, yeah... but we have to go another 7 episodes until then, and in the next 4 or 5 episodes i dont see why the throuple should be breaking up if i see how close they were in episode 8 and now even closer in episode 9. They might only get "forced" to from others... or something like that. We will see.

To me its a clear "development" of the relationship here during the game... at the beginning there were still unsecurities, even jealousy. And those faded more and more and are gone now. Why should they come back? Cause of a stupid pointsystem? Nah, i would be disapointed very much if those stupid points would rip apart what is to be seen on the screen. If DPC wanted that, he would show it too... like jelousy and such between them, but there is none.

Of course, the comeback of zoey will pretty much stir up every single relationship (if you let that happen) but again... not because of "points" only because of "actions" And there is a huge difference between those.

You offer and advice to look at the screen, but not in game code, but seems you haven't discovered and saw a lot of signs of this points importance.

You can look at it from the other angle and use a different approach. Check the moments when you gain or loss the RP with J&M and other girls. Mostly it belongs to MC behaviour, attitude, his words and actions. Game is not a real life, but to simplify some things and as a simple tool to accumulate an "authority" or "affection" RP works perfectly. IRL if you mock you potential girlfriend, be rude with her or doesn't show some respect or interest in her, etc etc this probably won't end immidietely in a good or bad way (but it depends on what you did of course) but it will probably lead to strong relationship with potential marriage, etc or on the contrary your relationship will be toxic/flimsy and would probably end up with break up sooner or later. Treat RP in the same way. As an invisible counter of positive attitude and girl affection to MC.

More examples. Scene below depend on variables and based on your previous choices. If you think it doesn't matter at all and any don't have sense then you're probably wrong.



Latest RP check. You have to collect solid 60 RP in summ for both J&M to unlock it (left 60+ RP, right 59 or less):



DPC pays a lot of attention to every little details and choices previously made. You asked to watch on screen, not on variables and RP, but it's all interconnected.

 

[KАRАMBA]

It will be punishment enough for her when she finds out that her husband is involved in prostitution shadow ring.

Oh, yes, I can imagine her indignation that she was not invited.

 

[Kpyna]

It is clear that from Maya these feelings are not mutual, at this moment for sure.
If everything is obvious with Josy, then Maya seems to have cooled off towards MC and perceives him as a friend. I don't even know how DPC intends to build Maya's solo outside of the group.

The only thing I would like to say, that you link and refer to Josy feelings expressions as to the standard or kind of. While my point is that it depends on people personality and character. Why that introvert thing is even bringed up? Because such type of people hide their emotions and express them more strictly and modest. I think it's the reason which makes you think so that Maya doesn't have solid feelings for MC or they are weaker than Josys.

 

[Jumbi]

Hi everyone. This is my first topic in this wonderful section.

In early 2022, I stumbled upon this captivating game. Season 2 had just concluded, with Episode 8 being the latest release. Being my first experience with a visual novel, it left me with a plethora of emotions and a unique sense of fulfillment. Since discovering the game, I've actively engaged with its forums, immersing myself in discussions about the characters and the unfolding storyline. I've closely monitored the progress of upcoming episodes and everything related to the game. Throughout this journey, I've found myself contemplating two intriguing questions:

1. From its initial release in 2019 until the present day, the game has undergone a continuous evolution. The visual models have steadily improved, seemingly growing and transforming with each new episode. As the narrative deepens, we uncover fresh facets of the characters' personalities. In a way, we, as players, parallel this evolution. Especially for those who joined the game's journey between 2019 and 2020 – a period spanning more than four years! Engaging with the game and eagerly awaiting new episodes, we also undergo personal growth and change. I believe that over this time, the DPC has similarly evolved, shaping an incredible story. Some players voice concerns that certain characters have altered their behavior, no longer adhering to their previous selves. However, isn't change an inherent part of our own lives as well? The fascinating aspect is that the characters also metamorphose, much like we do, over extended periods, and this transformation will continue. What are your thoughts on this phenomenon?

2. Now, I'd love to hear your perspective on another aspect: If given the choice, what would you prefer? Would you opt to experience the entire game at once (let's say in two substantial parts, each consisting of 7-8 episodes, with a total of 15 released over 2-3 years at most)? Or do you enjoy the current gradual unfolding of the game? The game's development and episode releases may be slow, but I find it preferable. It allows both the game and its players to change and adapt together. This gradual approach ensures a sustained and delightful experience. After all, it has already been four years (for those who began playing in 2019). Had everything been released at once, it might have faded into obscurity within a year. The joy of discovering the stories would have passed, as the entire narrative would have been laid bare. However, now, players cherish fond memories of past episodes while eagerly anticipating what lies ahead. It might be a slow process, but it keeps the game alive. If everything had been published in 2020, the game would have become a fleeting memory for us.

I'd like to clarify that my focus is solely on the experience of playing the game, excluding factors related to the game's development by DPC and any economic considerations. Let's delve into the sheer delight of immersing ourselves in this incredible journey!

Welcome to the thread.

1. As long as those shifts on characters' personality/behaviour do not feel totally out of character and the narrative provides solid background for them to happen, it's OK for me.

2. I am conflicted with this. I sometimes hate the waiting, literally. But on the other hand, feeling the thrill of anticipation while waiting for a new episode can be a nice sensation. And it provides a better ground for the flourishing of communities like this one.

 

[dalli_x]

My point was that you miss the content and valuable/exciting parts of story made by DPC by not playing other branches. You like to find clues and search for different hints, so since Season 3 you limit yourself even more than before. It's very adorable to explore game and plot from different sides and points of view. This helps to construct a whole picture, to find as many puzzle pieces as possible. You don't have to like or "love" a particular characters and girls. When you watch movie or read a book, I suppose you don't turn off the TV or swap the book pages because you don't like some character or not interested in him.

I know what you mean. But I don't need to play the other branches, because I can read more than enough information about the other branches here in the forum. If there is something interesting, I look at the scripts and pictures in the game folder.

Such theorization is good when you already know what's happened and the truth. What about woman ass?
Anyway it's only a hints. There were no any 100% evidences. So you'd have to stick to such version from the beginning until truth unfolds later to "win" this contest of conclusions. Otherwise it becomes a waving fists after the fight.

I wrote this theory before we knew so Chad and Troy were gay. That was 2 years ago.

I think it's not plausible. We seen Chad with Sage years ago. And his "steroids" and "dick" problems probably lasts from the beginning. He lied to her and used her as beard from the beginning. To create a fake facade of a tough guy jock who has the coolest girl in college. And we have to learn why Troy was kicked out from Alphas. It's not the gay thing, since Alphas know that Chad is still in contact with Troy. Otherwise he would lost all respect and authority among them.

The only problem is Chad. I think to myself so he is bisexual. Josy mentions in EP8 so she hopes for Sage that Chad is bisexual. It's written. A girl like Sage is not going to go years without having sex with her boyfriend. Besides, Sage didn't believe her mother. If Chad never fucked Sage, then Sage would have believed Jade right away. No, no, Chad is at least bisexual.

End of EP3 learned from Maya so she doesn't trust her father's lies anymore. What lies? It will probably be about the college money. I figure so Maya and Josy tried to frame Patrick and the whole thing was Derek's idea. How? With a beard. But Patrick was suspicious and didn't pay the college money. A ladylike guy? Who? Troy. Patrick saw him walking. This already looks gay. Troy was the beard of Maya.


I can well imagine so that the MC in the Gym of EP8 was tricked by Josy, Maya, Chad and Troy. He was supposed to catch Chad and Troy.

Many always forget so Maya attended college more often during her high school years. That's what Josy thinks in EP5. In EP3 we learn so Maya dated several guys but didn't have sex with guy. So Maya has been dating college guys and found the right one with Troy to start a Bart relationship. After, Josy and Maya hid things and lied to the MC, the MC would lose trust in Maya uand Josy. So the MC has to be prepared. The bad thing will be so that the blackmail photo what Chad got will show Maya together with Chad and Troy. I am looking forward to seeing how Sage and the MC will react to this photo. I only know one thing so a lot of people are scared of it.

 

[Chutoro]

The only thing I would like to say, that you link and refer to Josy feelings expressions as to the standard or kind of. While my point is that it depends on people personality and character. Why that introvert thing is even bringed up? Because such type of people hide their emotions and express them more strictly and modest. I think it's the reason which makes you think so that Maya doesn't have solid feelings for MC or they are weaker than Josys.

I think Maya and Josy have completely opposite personalities. Maya is an introvert whereas Josy is an extrovert. Josy is comfortable (and quite good at) making new friends (meeting with Jill, getting along with other HOTs, etc). Maya prefers to stay alone (watching movies in her room, etc.). So, I think you're right about how they express their emotions differently. This doesn't mean Josy has stronger feelings whereas Maya has weaker feelings toward MC.

As an intovert person myself, it is not easy for me to make new friends. So, I kind of understand Maya. If you have an extrovert friend like Josy, he/she can introduce you to his/her friends, include you in the group, and so on.

 

[Jumbi]

I think it's not plausible. We seen Chad with Sage years ago. And his "steroids" and "dick" problems probably lasts from the beginning. He lied to her and used her as beard from the beginning. To create a fake facade of a tough guy jock who has the coolest girl in college. And we have to learn why Troy was kicked out from Alphas. It's not the gay thing, since Alphas know that Chad is still in contact with Troy. Otherwise he would lost all respect and authority among them.

Most likely because he beat the crap out of Dawe. That's why he was forced to leave the tri-alphas.

This dialogue is from episode 8, at the gym:

Dawe "Yeah, keep on fucking walking."
Dawe "Can you believe the fucking nerve on that guy?"
Dawe "I wish we could cancel his membership."
Caleb "Who's that?"
Anthony "That's Troy. He used to be one of us."
Caleb "Used to? What happened?"
Chad "Guys... Let's not do this."
Dawe "Why not? The new guys should know the tri-alpha history."
Dawe "That guy's a dickhead, and any alpha that gets kicked out shouldn't get off easily."
Chad "Oh, yeah. Then, what's the difference between him and me?"
Chad "I was suspended and you're letting me off the hook."
Dawe "Come on. It's different with him! It wasn't us that kicked you out."
Dawe "And he fucking deserves it! It took me two weeks to chew normally!"
Dawe "Don't tell me you're going soft on him all of a sudden!"
Chad "Let's focus on the routine, ok?"
Dawe "I'll tell you more later."

 

[dalli_x]

Dawe "Don't tell me you're going soft on him all of a sudden!"

Dawe definitely doesn't know that Chad and Troy are gay, or Dawe would have said that.
Dawe "Don't tell me you're going hard on him all of a sudden!"

 

[KАRАMBA]

Welcome to the thread.

1. As long as those shifts on characters' personality/behaviour do not feel totally out of character and the narrative provides solid background for them to happen, it's OK for me.

2. I am conflicted with this. I sometimes hate the waiting, literally. But on the other hand, feeling the thrill of anticipation while waiting for a new episode can be a nice sensation. And it provides a better ground for the flourishing of communities like this one.

So you call what 's happening here flourishing ?
Flourishing...

 

[Darkwen]

Outside the throuple their relationship is flimsy. The contrast is shown in EP9 beginning. In throuple they quickly settled the conflict and dispute over the price of the costumes, while without the MC, this dispute dragged on for a week and they continued to argue even upon arrival at the party. All this makes Josy doubt in her choice. Although she tried to move on and said that she no longer wants to cheat and lie. But it also wasn't worked.

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js "Thank you for the shirt."
mc "Don't mention it. It would have been weird to sleep in that dress."
js "And weirder to sleep without it, huh?"
mc "..."
js "..."
js "Maybe I should take the couch?"
mc "I thought you were comfortable?"
js "I am, but you know why... Because of us."
mc "I can take the couch, no problem."
js "I'm not a cheater. I mean, I did it, but I don't want to be that anymore."
mc "I don't want that either."
js "I love Maya..."
js "But I thought these feelings I have for you would fade."
js "Yet, every time I see your face... I..."
mc "Shh..."
js "I still have your sweater, you know?"
mc "Did you bring it here?"
js "It was the first thing I grabbed when I packed my suitcase."
js "I...don't know what I'm saying right now. Tell me to shut up."
if affinity == "DIK":
mc "Ok... Uh... Shut up."
elif True:
mc "I'll never tell you that. I've always liked listening to you talk."
js "Haha..."
js "Good night..."

It will depend on how her potential solo route would open. If it will start from cheating on Maya then it probably will be the path of drama. If she will try to talk to Maya first, then maybe things will be less dramatic. The same for Maya solo path, but... it, probably, will always lead to a significant drama. Because Josy is still have all that feelings at first, and secondly bc of her fear of loneliness.

I don't think that Josy has a high tendency to cheat. She did it before (as well as Maya) because she was sure that her relationship is over. But she can't help herself and supress her feelings and pretend that all is fine. In throuple she doesn't need to pick anyone, bc she can get both people she love. In couple with Maya, with all that fights and arguing and when MC is not near them to help and support it starts to bother her and that's why she doubt in her choice.

As MC we have a choice now. To help their relationship to survive or to stand aside. I will not believe if DPC will not force us to make a cruel choice and betray one of them and MC's own promise which he give to himself and also told to Derek. That he is not the guy, who ruin relationships and that she won't hurt them.

In overall, cheating (or temptation) or whatever else points with Josy means and made this way because of that choice in EP5. It's an unique feature in the game. If player plan to pursue solo Josy or Maya then he'd be better on "others" road. Otherwise this is mental cheating and direct doubt in choice previously made regarding the MG LI.

I was surprised that DPC left the option to tell Josy that MC is think about her a bit or all the time in case, when in EP5 we made a choice where MC doesn't have any feelings for her anymore, or he have feelings for Maya...

I tend to think a solo path will open within the throuple, I question if it will happen on others path at this point. The most likely path feel like in the throuple it's already setup with how mc spends his time. Balance will keep it going spending more time with one of the girls opens solo with that girl. The fan walk though indicates something is coming with Josy and Maya so choices are going to matter a lot but that's just what I think

 

[daxil94]

I tend to think a solo path will open within the throuple, I question if it will happen on others path at this point. The most likely path feel like in the throuple it's already setup with how mc spends his time. Balance will keep it going spending more time with one of the girls opens solo with that girl. The fan walk though indicates something is coming with Josy and Maya so choices are going to matter a lot but that's just what I think

Thats what i think too. MC Outside relationship it's toxic. Story is only going on for how long now 1-2months ? And they almost broke up so many times and without Sage's intervention maybe it would've been even worse.

I think there'll be solo paths for Josy and Maya even with friends route. I wouldn't make a flag for feelings otherwise and AFAIK that flag almost changed nothing ? With throuple path what you said would be the case after EP9(if there'll be solo paths) you will choose who you're going to spend your time with and end up in the solo path.

Three way relationships doesn't work when i think about it(that's why i don't like harem too) when 2 people in this relationships gets more attached other would feel left alone and like a third wheel in this case if MC and Josy gets more attached Maya would be left alone or vice versa. I don't think DPC will keep up the throuple but he might surprise us.

 

[Darkwen]

Thats what i think too. MC Outside relationship it's toxic. Story is only going on for how long now 1-2months ? And they almost broke up so many times and without Sage's intervention maybe it would've been even worse.

Three way relationships doesn't work when i think about it(that's why i don't like harem too) when 2 people in this relationships gets more attached other would feel left alone and like a third wheel in this case if MC and Josy gets more attached Maya would be left alone or vice versa. I don't think DPC will keep up the throuple but he might surprise us.

I agree with that, even if MC stay's balance with Josy and Maya I feel like DPC is going to make you pick one of them by the end

 

[daxil94]

I agree with that, even if MC stay's balance with Josy and Maya I feel like DPC is going to make you pick one of them by the end

I updated my post about this.

I think there'll be solo paths for Josy and Maya even with friends route. I wouldn't make a flag for feelings otherwise and AFAIK that flag almost changed nothing ? With throuple path what you said would be the case after EP9(if there'll be solo paths) you will choose who you're going to spend your time with and end up in the solo path.

 

[Kpyna]

I know what you mean. But I don't need to play the other branches, because I can read more than enough information about the other branches here in the forum. If there is something interesting, I look at the scripts and pictures in the game folder.

Ok then...

I wrote this theory before we knew so Chad and Troy were gay. That was 2 years ago.

The only problem is Chad. I think to myself so he is bisexual. Josy mentions in EP8 so she hopes for Sage that Chad is bisexual. It's written. A girl like Sage is not going to go years without having sex with her boyfriend. Besides, Sage didn't believe her mother. If Chad never fucked Sage, then Sage would have believed Jade right away. No, no, Chad is at least bisexual.

End of EP3 learned from Maya so she doesn't trust her father's lies anymore. What lies? It will probably be about the college money. I figure so Maya and Josy tried to frame Patrick and the whole thing was Derek's idea. How? With a beard. But Patrick was suspicious and didn't pay the college money. A ladylike guy? Who? Troy. Patrick saw him walking. This already looks gay. Troy was the beard of Maya.
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I can well imagine so that the MC in the Gym of EP8 was tricked by Josy, Maya, Chad and Troy. He was supposed to catch Chad and Troy.

Many always forget so Maya attended college more often during her high school years. That's what Josy thinks in EP5. In EP3 we learn so Maya dated several guys but didn't have sex with guy. So Maya has been dating college guys and found the right one with Troy to start a Bart relationship. After, Josy and Maya hid things and lied to the MC, the MC would lose trust in Maya uand Josy. So the MC has to be prepared. The bad thing will be so that the blackmail photo what Chad got will show Maya together with Chad and Troy. I am looking forward to seeing how Sage and the MC will react to this photo. I only know one thing so a lot of people are scared of it.

Amazing ability to combine white and black in one post

Josy said she hopes that he is bi- because otherwise she feels bad for Sage.

She probably cheated on him (it's still unclear moment) or used toys (she have a great collection). But Jade words have to rely on some reason and points. Probably she knew the truth (it's still unclear how much hidden CCTV here and there in campus and who stay besides it) and tried to warn Sage, but she didn't trust her. Sage started to suspect Chad because she thought that he is cheating on her and use the steroids and dick problems as an excuse.
How about Sage words that guys usually don't reject her? (Preps party, conversation in Tybalt's room, MC must not be on her path). What's this if not a signs that she probably cheated on Chad with guys, which "usually don't reject her".

I will not comment a lot the last and most fantastic part about J&M and Chad & Troy

You clearly know Maya's reasons not being with guys. She explained that and we even saw a short but bright flashback from the school. Patrick revealed their relationship in the last months before the college. There was a couple of months gap from their early summer road trip and actual game events. Josy past and expirience with guys are still foggy, but probably we will not learn a lot because of 18 years border and regulations. But she studied in one school with Maya and Derek for years.