VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[KАRАMBA]

Starting a serious relationship with Sage, Fuckface should found out about the shares in which the inheritance is supposed to be divided between Sage and Tybalt. Will it be 50/50%, or otherwise. This issue should not be neglected and postponed for later. Stephen's work is hard, sometimes associated with strong emotional stress. You never know what can suddenly happen to him. And Jade, with her penchant for adventurism and casual relationships, is also at risk.
And if you think about it, Tybalt also leads a rather dangerous lifestyle. He's taken on so many responsibilities. Everyone knows how difficult social activities can be. Looking at the enthusiasm with which Tybalt is passionate about this activity, we can say that he gives his all, without a trace, to social work. This is very harmful. And if suddenly his body does not withstand the loads, it should not surprise anyone.
And Sage... This is her passion for swimming in the pool. It's so dangerous, so dangerous. I don't want to think about it, but... If think... Anyway, there's Quinn. She can comfort Fuckface, and they'll live happily ever after.

 

[openup212]

Starting a serious relationship with Sage, Fuckface should found out about the shares in which the inheritance is supposed to be divided between Sage and Tybalt. Will it be 50/50%, or otherwise. This issue should not be neglected and postponed for later. Stephen's work is hard, sometimes associated with strong emotional stress. You never know what can suddenly happen to him. And Jade, with her penchant for adventurism and casual relationships, is also at risk.
And if you think about it, Tybalt also leads a rather dangerous lifestyle. He's taken on so many responsibilities. Everyone knows how difficult social activities can be. Looking at the enthusiasm with which Tybalt is passionate about this activity, we can say that he gives his all, without a trace, to social work. This is very harmful. And if suddenly his body does not withstand the loads, it should not surprise anyone.
And Sage... This is her passion for swimming in the pool. It's so dangerous, so dangerous. I don't want to think about it, but... If think... Anyway, there's Quinn. She can comfort Fuckface, and they'll live happily ever after.

 

[RandoCard3]

Point taken.

But I wouldn't complain on a threesome scene with her and Nora either.

That I can behind.

This is very harmful. And if suddenly his body does not withstand the loads, it should not surprise anyone.

What kind of loads has been taking exactly?

 

[I'm Canadian bub]

Starting a serious relationship with Sage, Fuckface should found out about the shares in which the inheritance is supposed to be divided between Sage and Tybalt. Will it be 50/50%, or otherwise. This issue should not be neglected and postponed for later. Stephen's work is hard, sometimes associated with strong emotional stress. You never know what can suddenly happen to him. And Jade, with her penchant for adventurism and casual relationships, is also at risk.
And if you think about it, Tybalt also leads a rather dangerous lifestyle. He's taken on so many responsibilities. Everyone knows how difficult social activities can be. Looking at the enthusiasm with which Tybalt is passionate about this activity, we can say that he gives his all, without a trace, to social work. This is very harmful. And if suddenly his body does not withstand the loads, it should not surprise anyone.
And Sage... This is her passion for swimming in the pool. It's so dangerous, so dangerous. I don't want to think about it, but... If think... Anyway, there's Quinn. She can comfort Fuckface, and they'll live happily ever after.

 

[KАRАMBA]

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What do you mean about what?! That the legacy of such glorious people as Stephen and Jade should not be wasted. Must not fall into the wrong hands. It is better to think about this in advance.

That I can behind.


What kind of loads has been taking exactly?

Well, different ways... We saw how Tybalt received Rusty in his office, where he works on various issues of importance to society. It's a big responsibility. It's burdensome.
I mean, it's a load on the heart. On the vessels of the brain. I can see how sensitive Tybalt is to people's problems. How much he takes someone else's pain to heart. That's what I meant.

Spoiler: My (supposed) speech at Tybalt's funeral.

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[yossa999]

Let's talk about this for second.

I think as we come more and more to the middle (end of the middle?) of the game, the lack of a credible antagonist is really starting to hurt the story. Despite what the trainer said, we fought Caleb to a standstill on our very first outing. Vinny only beat us cause he had a gun and Quinn (imo, the character with the BEST potential to be an compelling and dangerous villain) has been reduced to a mere love interest.

Who are we trying to overcome? Who is it that is supposed to make us feel outmatched and overwhelmed? BaD has good-to-excellent character writing and pretty good (despite the Dev's LOVE of drama) subplot writing; but much like mainstream media project these days, it flails at core structural writing.

Fuckface isn't Rocky Balboa just hoping he can go the distance against the Heavyweight Champion of the World. He's Rey 'Skywalker'. Every single guy he goes up against, he crushes. Every problem, he solves, every issue he resolves. Tommy and Quinn even point it out in the last episode, he's good at everything he does.

Now this isn't the end of the world, most people enjoy a bit of power fantasy in porn and that's fine. But DPC keeps telling us again and again that he wants to tell a STORY here. And the problem is dangerous antagonists are what drive a story. Right about now (just past halfway) is when things need to start going WRONG. In standard story structure, after the midpoint, where the protagonist has some measure of success, the antagonist needs to counterstrike and raise the stakes still higher.

For example, in the Dark Knight; Batman captures the Joker at the midpoint without killing him. He saves the city and keeps his soul, seemingly without any sacrifice (he doesn't know he lost Rachel yet). This is a major high for both the audience and him. It's meant to be a moment of triumph which they becomes all the more bittersweet when the drop comes next. The Joker escapes, once again demonstrating his theory that Gotham is too corrupt to be saved, then kills Batman's Love Interest and turns the 'hero' of the story insane. These highs and lows aren't just for fun, they're a direct and necessary way to guide the audience's emotions and thoughts. We're meant to question our values and our place in society. Do you give up power to some dangerous person and pray he hands it back? Are people fundamentally good? Do the ends justify the means?

I use TDK because its an easy example. People love the movie because of the Joker, but they don't realize they love the Joker, because he's allowed to move the story more than most villains. He has success, great success during the course of the film. We don't just question whether or not he'll win. We also question whether or not he deserves to win. And further, he does get proven right at several key junctures. Sure, Batman and the people of Gotham both pass his little tests, but Gordon doesn't, neither does Harvey. Batman gets run around the city and nearly destroyed cause he won't break his one rule.

Now go back to BaD. Who is our antagonist? Is it an opposing force? A person? A general sense of corruption? It could be any of these, but we need to start seeing it come up right away and it needs to be a BIG problem. The MC needs to fail at something, he needs to be defeated. He needs to lose, then tie, then lose again maybe. There need to be consequences for his bad decisions, sacrifices to pay for his successes, losses and pain and suffering. At least, if DPC still wants to make an actual story. Cause right now, its just a gentle narrative on easy mode.

Thoughts?

And who do you think the opposing force of this game is/was? I'm curious.

In short, it's not my job to come up with an antagonist for this story, it's above my paygrade, let the DPC do his job. "Here we are now, entertain us"

Being serious, I can't point to a specific person and say "that's the antagonist". Vinnie looks like a proper villain material, he is chaotic and dangerous, and can easily become the spark that burns to the ground the fragile world of B&R. But I don't think he's too important to be the main antagonist, he's more of a chain of events fuse. Something like Vinnie hitting hard or shooting at the MC. Or he aims at the MC, but shoots someone near him, someone who is dear to the MC, Jill for example. Hello drama, my old friend!

Anyway, after the incident, the cops intervened, the investigation begin, the Quinn's buisness is exposed, the connection with Burke is revealed, a huge scandal, everything is ruined in B&R. Headlines: "B&R University was front for drug dealing and prostitution.", "Dean Burke denies any involvement in buying sexual services from students. Several students had previously accused him of harassment.", "New evidence of drug-dealing activity on campus grounds has been unearthed, including on a fraternity house run by the son of one of B&R's co-founders." (same goes for the sorority house, run by the daughter of dean Burke). I'm sorry here for my English, I feel that I may sound ridiculous but I can't correct it myself.
I think there is more than enough fuel for the drama. The Sage's arc alone is worth something! Her father is a predator in disguise, her sorority is a whorehouse and drug store, her university has gained a reputation, her mom cheats on Sage's dad with Sage's boyfriend. Hey Fuckface, antagonize this

Another direction an antagonist might come from is the MC mom's lineage. I find it hard to believe these conspiracies about Jill's blood relation to the MC through his mom. But we know almost nothing about his relatives from his mother’s side, only that they have been assholes to Neil and the MC all their lives. Maybe one of them is going to interfere and ruin the MC's life.

 

[Plasticsboygab]

Did... did you actually pay attention when playing the game? All those questions are pretty much answered throughout the gameplay.

In episode 9, Rusty attempts to get into a serious relationship with Micha but she admits she's not single and ditches him, then he gets drunk on the roof before having a small heart-to-heart with Fuckface.

Jill tells the MC she dated Rusty but didn't like how he ignored her and became someone else around his friends so they didn't work out, but we see in the episode 5 flashback that he was genuinely interested in her. As Letum0317 said, Jill is the one that got away, and the morning following his shitty night he finds out that her new boyfriend is the up-and-coming popular guy at school is a real gut punch. A reminder of not only the rejection he got the night before but the one he got years before.

I try to be attentive to dialogue but sometimes it gets too long and my attention span isn't that long. I also haven't had that much time unfortunately to digest the game.

But thanks for the answer, really appreciate it. I knew I didn't like Jill for a reason. Back to micro-penis she goes.

 

[daxil94]

In short, it's not my job to come up with an antagonist for this story, it's above my paygrade, let the DPC do his job. "Here we are now, entertain us"

Being serious, I can't point to a specific person and say "that's the antagonist". Vinnie looks like a proper villain material, he is chaotic and dangerous, and can easily become the spark that burns to the ground the fragile world of B&R. But I don't think he's too important to be the main antagonist, he's more of a chain of events fuse. Something like Vinnie hitting hard or shooting at the MC. Or he aims at the MC, but shoots someone near him, someone who is dear to the MC, Jill for example. Hello drama, my old friend!

Anyway, after the incident, the cops intervened, the investigation begin, the Quinn's buisness is exposed, the connection with Burke is revealed, a huge scandal, everything is ruined in B&R. Headlines: "B&R University was front for drug dealing and prostitution.", "Dean Burke denies any involvement in buying sexual services from students. Several students had previously accused him of harassment.", "New evidence of drug-dealing activity on campus grounds has been unearthed, including on a fraternity house run by the son of one of B&R's co-founders." (same goes for the sorority house, run by the daughter of dean Burke). I'm sorry here for my English, I feel that I may sound ridiculous but I can't correct it myself.
I think there is more than enough fuel for the drama. The Sage's arc alone is worth something! Her father is a predator in disguise, her sorority is a whorehouse and drug store, her university has gained a reputation, her mom cheats on Sage's dad with Sage's boyfriend. Hey Fuckface, antagonize this

Another direction an antagonist might come from is the MC mom's lineage. I find it hard to believe these conspiracies about Jill's blood relation to the MC through his mom. But we know almost nothing about his relatives from his mother’s side, only that they have been assholes to Neil and the MC all their lives. Maybe one of them is going to interfere and ruin the MC's life.

I think of this scenario too, it would fit for every single branch and it would fit why DPC is going to tell the story of just 1 year because after 1 year of college there's no B&R anymore or no frats & sororities. But it think if story is going this way it can only be in season 3 ending or first episode of season 4 not until EP12-13. And Mona can testify for prostitution rig.

Sage: Devastated, knows what quinn did behind her while she thought she was her friend, her father.
Josy & Maya: No school to go ? (least ones maybe ?) (**Edit oh no i fuckin forgot the tuition fee)
Jill: Family name tarnished and it will be chaos in Royce family
Bella: Workplace & Where she can be with MC is gone ?
Quinn: Jail (probably ?)
Rio: Jail (Probably ? Oh now i'm sad. for people who're going to ask she was a middleman between quinn and buyer)
etc.

People who think if this is dark how do you think this story ends ? With this branching & all the stuff, we need a story conclusion that's going to hit all of em MC, MGs, SGs, DIKs, HOTs.

 

[KАRАMBA]

The Sage's arc alone is worth something! Her father is a predator in disguise

Oh, yes, that's Stephen.

But we know almost nothing about his relatives from his mother’s side

There is a high probability that we do not know anything about Fuckface's relatives on the maternal side because they are very influential people, which it is better not to mention unless absolutely necessary. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if someone like the chairman of the Bilderberg Club turns out to be Fuckface's grandfather . In fact, the person who controls the world. And when the time comes, Fuckface will have to take his place. But, we all know perfectly well that Fuckface has already found his true vocation - to play mini-games on his iPhone. Thank God he has Quinn. The love of his life. She will take over the management of the world, so as not to distract Fuckface from the mini-games.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

One thing I've been wondering about, and I'm not sure if anyone's tackled this one yet but, has anyone ever wondered why Jade is being openly and willing to be hostile towards Chad, her daughter's "main squeeze"? In the following screenshots, you can see she's practically eager to reprimand Chad.

Spoiler: Something ain't right here.

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Both Cathy And Stephen look annoyed by Jade stepping in and giving her 2 cents on that matter. Jade strongly suggests taking stern disciplinary actions against Chad, while both Stephen and Cathy are offering a more 'hands off' approach by suggesting to "talk it out" with Chad.

This scene is always bugging me. In reality for something like this would end with some form of suspension. But clearly Stephen and Cathy are thinking about who it is that's on the other end of that 'hook' while Jade doesn't seem to give a fuck and shows she's willing to go the extra mile to drop the hammer on Chad.

Thoughts?

 

[daxil94]

One thing I've been wondering about, and I'm not sure if anyone's tackled this one yet but, has anyone ever wondered why Jade is being openly and willing to be hostile towards Chad, her daughter's "main squeeze"? In the following screenshots, you can see she's practically eager to reprimand Chad.

Spoiler: Something ain't right here.

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Both Cathy And Stephen look annoyed by Jade stepping in and giving her 2 cents on that matter. Jade strongly suggests taking stern disciplinary actions against Chad, while both Stephen and Cathy are offering a more 'hands off' approach by suggesting to "talk it out" with Chad.

This scene is always bugging me. In reality for something like this would end with some form of suspension. But clearly Stephen and Cathy are thinking about who it is that's on the other end of that 'hook' while Jade doesn't seem to give a fuck and shows she's willing to go the extra mile to drop the hammer on Chad.

Thoughts?

With Sage said "was mom right?" i think she knew or had an idea what might be going on. That's probably why she's extra harsh with Chad and don't forget she's trying to make a move on MC too.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Thoughts?

Why these questions ?
How will this help Quinn gain power over the world ?

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

With Sage said "was mom right?" i think she knew or had an idea what might be going on. That's probably why she's extra harsh with Chad and don't forget she's trying to make a move on MC too.

Yeh I've thought of that, but it still doesn't feel like it would be just that. It would be a pretty petty thing of her to do. We already know it took at least 3 indiscretions from Stephen for Jade to start acting out in "revenge".
When sage mumbled "Was mom right", I believe that's just about Chad's sexual preferences. Not because he's a complete arse hole. The entire Burke Family is based on complete arse holes. And yes that include Sage. Because she didn't outright return MC's guitar once she found out it was stolen. It was a rather cunty move to demand something in return for what she clearly knew wasn't hers.

 

[curiousdog585]

Why these questions ?
How will this help Quinn gain power over the world ?

Take a rest day tomorrow, you've earned it

 

[KАRАMBA]

One thing I've been wondering about, and I'm not sure if anyone's tackled this one yet but, has anyone ever wondered why Jade is being openly and willing to be hostile towards Chad, her daughter's "main squeeze"? In the following screenshots, you can see she's practically eager to reprimand Chad.

Spoiler: Something ain't right here.

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Both Cathy And Stephen look annoyed by Jade stepping in and giving her 2 cents on that matter. Jade strongly suggests taking stern disciplinary actions against Chad, while both Stephen and Cathy are offering a more 'hands off' approach by suggesting to "talk it out" with Chad.

This scene is always bugging me. In reality for something like this would end with some form of suspension. But clearly Stephen and Cathy are thinking about who it is that's on the other end of that 'hook' while Jade doesn't seem to give a fuck and shows she's willing to go the extra mile to drop the hammer on Chad.

Thoughts?

Well, it's really simple. Jade sees that Chad doesn't treat her daughter the way she deserves. She doesn't like it and she wants to destroy this relationship in any way possible. So she's trying to use this opportunity to kick Chad the fuck out of college. But for Stephen, Chad is the main hope of the college in the competition, and therefore he does not like the fact that Jade insists on punishment. There is nothing secret here.

 

[KАRАMBA]

It was a rather cunty move to demand something in return for what she clearly knew wasn't hers.

Wow. I didn't think about it from that point of view. This is bullying. Real damn bullying. With a capital "B"

 

[ProxyGist]

What makes you think Tommy would even know that MC is Josy's boyfriend? He only saw Josy and Maya coming out of the hallway, which incidentally also leads to Jacob's room. We remember that he assumed that Sage was fucking Jacob in Sage's way, so he'll probably assume the same thing. Besides, if Jacob denies it, both Josy and Maya can say they fucked together. Yes he saw Maya and MC, but he hardly remembered her at all.
Besides even if MC admits he's Josy and Maya's boyfriend, the trouple breakup will be Tommy's fault. He can probably accept MC as Josy's boyfriend, but he's unlikely to accept trouple. He will probably give MC an ultimatum. I'm generally guessing that Josy, MC and Tommy will go to her parents' house together for Thanksgiving.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

Wow. I didn't think about it from that point of view. This is bullying. Real damn bullying. With a capital "B"

Now I'm not sure if you're just being a sarcastic twat or if you're serious.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

Well, it's really simple. Jade sees that Chad doesn't treat her daughter the way she deserves. She doesn't like it and she wants to destroy this relationship in any way possible. So she's trying to use this opportunity to kick Chad the fuck out of college. But for Stephen, Chad is the main hope of the college in the competition, and therefore he does not like the fact that Jade insists on punishment. There is nothing secret here.

You raise an interesting point.

 

[ProxyGist]

One thing I've been wondering about, and I'm not sure if anyone's tackled this one yet but, has anyone ever wondered why Jade is being openly and willing to be hostile towards Chad, her daughter's "main squeeze"? In the following screenshots, you can see she's practically eager to reprimand Chad.

Spoiler: Something ain't right here.

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Both Cathy And Stephen look annoyed by Jade stepping in and giving her 2 cents on that matter. Jade strongly suggests taking stern disciplinary actions against Chad, while both Stephen and Cathy are offering a more 'hands off' approach by suggesting to "talk it out" with Chad.

This scene is always bugging me. In reality for something like this would end with some form of suspension. But clearly Stephen and Cathy are thinking about who it is that's on the other end of that 'hook' while Jade doesn't seem to give a fuck and shows she's willing to go the extra mile to drop the hammer on Chad.

Thoughts?

Yeah, I think Jade has hit on Chad before, or at least tried to seduce him, but he ignored her. Jade is a pretty vindictive woman and if MC rejects her she reacts pretty negatively to it, so this could be a little petty revenge of disappointed Jade. She has no other reason to treat Chad this way. He is Sage's boyfriend after all. Unless he has some sort of conflict with Tybalt.
MC was apparently the first one who wasn't afraid to flirt and flirt with her and the romance quickly took off. I generally assume Jade will be the hidden antagonist driven by revenge. Revenge on her husband, revenge on MC, etc. Jade has a pretty common type of bossy and frustrated woman who isn't used to being rejected.