VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[KАRАMBA]

Which is double wrong -- not only everyone isn't like that, but Quinn spends half her time pretending to be all innocent and not doing shit things, to people around her. Instead of "being honest" about her shittiness.

Do you think she has to do shit all the time?! Look, we are bad people - a free people. We are not trapped in any framework of generally accepted rules. We can pretend if we want, or we can not pretend. We don't need to show someone our "shittiness". We don't need to show anything to anyone at all. Because we don't owe anyone anything. If we want to deceive someone, and pretend for this not to be who we really are, then we do it solely for our own benefit, and not to impress someone.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

We have numerous cases in real life where people would literally give up their place in a lifeboat for someone else, and not just refrain from murdering them to save themselves. So yes, it does happen in real life, too.

Remove the comfort of the convenience of grocery stores and electricity, and to quote Vladimir Lenin "We're just 3 meals away from total chaos". Humans are still neanderthals when it comes to survival. Perhaps for close family members and loved ones this would not be so true, but as your neighbor, you'd better be wearing a heavy steel plate on your back because the knives are coming out, it's just a question of time.

 

[Takkatakka]

Remove the comfort of the convenience of grocery stores and electricity, and to quote Vladimir Lenin "We're just 3 meals away from total chaos". Humans are still neanderthals when it comes to survival. Perhaps for close family members and loved ones this would not be so true, but as your neighbor, you'd better be wearing a heavy steel plate on your back because the knives are coming out, it's just a question of time.

I mean...if my best friends would essentially be Trotzki and Stalin I would probably think like that as well.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

I mean...if my best friends would essentially be Trotzki and Stalin I would probably think like that as well.

So you're saying that, given the choice to fight for the survival of your family and loved ones you wouldn't drop your standards and fight with all your might for their survival?

Get the fuck out of here!
lol

 

[Takkatakka]

So you're saying that, given the choice to fight for the survival of your family and loved ones you wouldn't drop your standards and fight with all your might for their survival?

Get the fuck out of here!
lol

There are examples for both people becoming very antagonistic and people starting to become very collaborative and working together.

 

[Lovetities]

At that moment Sage didn't have any reasons to doubt Chad. Would you trust a complete stranger over your boyfriend without question?

Sage literally found Troy panties and was doubting Chad. Depending on the Choices Sage has no reason not to trust Fuckface. More importantly, Fuckface somewhat begged her and told her how important that guitar is to him. Also, why would fuckface create problems in sage and chad relationship for no reason when he himself depending on your choice rejected helping sage with Chad in the hall. Also, didn't she asked fuckface to teach her how to play guitar?

 

[ffive]

If we want to deceive someone, and pretend for this not to be who we really are, then we do it solely for our own benefit, and not to impress someone.

I'm not saying she can't do that. Just that the claim "she isn't hiding what she is, unlike the others", is bullshit.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

There are examples for both people becoming very antagonistic and people starting to become very collaborative and working together.

(reached my reaction limits so this is the next best thing lol)

 

[ffive]

Also, why would fuckface create problems in sage and chad relationship for no reason

A guy who comes to a girl and shits on her boyfriend always has an obvious reason.

 

[KАRАMBA]

(reached my reaction limits so this is the next best thing lol)

Same shit with me

 

[Takkatakka]

(reached my reaction limits so this is the next best thing lol)

If you want an example in line with what you're arguing it would probably this one:

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[Lovetities]

A guy who comes to a girl and shits on her boyfriend always has an obvious reason.

He didn't shit on him? He said you stole my guitar. He didn't talk shit about Chad. Stop taking things out of your ass lol. I would suggest replaying the scene again. Fuckface didn't even knew Sage had his guitar or Chad gave her the guitar. Which sage got the hint of unless she is extremely dumb af. Fuckface politely ask her return the guitar, he doesn't care what sage think about him or even if she trust him.

 

[KАRАMBA]

I'm not saying she can't do that. Just that the claim "she isn't hiding what she is, unlike the others", is bullshit.

You and I just see it differently, that's all. You're saying Quinn is pretending to be innocent. But I see it differently. She just lives a normal life. She shouldn't be running and screaming - "I'm a sinner." And of course she hides some of her actions. It would be stupid not to hide it. But she doesn't meddle with other people with some kind of idiotic kindness. Like Jill, for example. - "I'm ready to help you. You need help !" I want to tell these people only one thing - "Fuck you, you stupid bitch, help someone else, but fuck off from me."

 

[yossa999]

You and I just see it differently, that's all. You're saying Quinn is pretending to be innocent. But I see it differently. She just lives a normal life. She shouldn't be running and screaming - "I'm a sinner." And of course she hides some of her actions. It would be stupid not to hide it. But she doesn't meddle with other people with some kind of idiotic kindness. Like Jill, for example. - "I'm ready to help you. You need help !" I want to tell these people only one thing - "Fuck you, you stupid bitch, help someone else, but fuck off from me."

"...And let me sell my shit to your friends in peace." No, Quinny, that's not how it works with Jill. Yes, she's a little dense naive, but she'll find out about your little private enterprise eventually, especially if she visits Fuckface at DIK's mansion more often. What do you think she will do?

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

If you want an example in line with what you're arguing it would probably this one:

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I'm not quite sure why you'd post something that adds weight to my argument.
But regardless, my point of view is that I have little to no faith in humans to do the honorable thing in times of crisis when they are forced to contemplate their inevitable demise.

Yes I agree that there are some people that would do the right thing and stand in front of that bullet to save another, but we are talking about a minority IMO. And there is a saying "Good guys die young/first" for good reason. And painting me as a Lenin sympathizer just for quoting him, kinda adds weight to my argument as well. Unless I have severely misread your statement.

*shrugs*
But ultimately should "shit hit the fan" as it were, I have very little faith in humanity to be 'trustworthy' and firmly believe that 'every man for himself' and 'only the strong will survive' will be the way to go.

 

[Takkatakka]

I'm not quite sure why you'd post something that adds weight to my argument.

My point was that it can go both ways depending on the actual situation and the actual people. And that there are historic examples for both as well.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

My point was that it can go both ways depending on the actual situation and the actual people. And that there are historic examples for both as well.

Ok, to an extent, I can agree to that.

 

[KАRАMBA]

What do you think she will do?

I have sense you're talking about it with an undisguised sense of pleasure.
Yeah, you'd like someone to hurt Quinn's business. Although she didn't do you any harm personally. But you want to hurt her. I think this can be called bullying. Yes, this is a cynical bullying. With a capital "B"!

 

[NebulousShooter]

Is Quinn a virgin?

 

[FlorenThanos Perez]

Is Quinn a virgin?

Yes.