At that moment Sage didn't have any reasons to doubt Chad. Would you trust a complete stranger over your boyfriend without question?Why would a guy lie about something like that? She might not trust fuckface but she knows that Chad and him have issues. She saw him get bullied by Chad and his gay club. Trust her boyfriend really? That boyfriend who was cheating on her and treating her like shit.
That's a good point, but I'm not sure the MC knew his guitar was stolen by Chad yet.
Counterpoint: Joker was explicitly proven to be wrong about people, by the people.
He set up a dumb test which was supposed to demonstrate the very thing you (and he) claimed, that people are all too willing to throw others under the bus for their own survival. But the result of it was the opposite.
This is not true. Sage and Chad are at odds from the very beginning. First time we see them, they are having a quarrel in the cafeteria, because, as we later are said, Sage already heavily suspected that Chad was cheating on her.
It just that's how it was shown in the movie. Nothing else. This does not mean that the same would happen in real life.
We have numerous cases in real life where people would literally give up their place in a lifeboat for someone else, and not just refrain from murdering them to save themselves. So yes, it does happen in real life, too.
Do you think she has to do shit all the time?! Look, we are bad people - a free people. We are not trapped in any framework of generally accepted rules. We can pretend if we want, or we can not pretend. We don't need to show someone our "shittiness". We don't need to show anything to anyone at all. Because we don't owe anyone anything. If we want to deceive someone, and pretend for this not to be who we really are, then we do it solely for our own benefit, and not to impress someone.
Remove the comfort of the convenience of grocery stores and electricity, and to quote Vladimir Lenin "We're just 3 meals away from total chaos". Humans are still neanderthals when it comes to survival. Perhaps for close family members and loved ones this would not be so true, but as your neighbor, you'd better be wearing a heavy steel plate on your back because the knives are coming out, it's just a question of time.
I mean...if my best friends would essentially be Trotzki and Stalin I would probably think like that as well.
So you're saying that, given the choice to fight for the survival of your family and loved ones you wouldn't drop your standards and fight with all your might for their survival?
There are examples for both people becoming very antagonistic and people starting to become very collaborative and working together.
Sage literally found Troy panties and was doubting Chad. Depending on the Choices Sage has no reason not to trust Fuckface. More importantly, Fuckface somewhat begged her and told her how important that guitar is to him. Also, why would fuckface create problems in sage and chad relationship for no reason when he himself depending on your choice rejected helping sage with Chad in the hall. Also, didn't she asked fuckface to teach her how to play guitar?
I'm not saying she can't do that. Just that the claim "she isn't hiding what she is, unlike the others", is bullshit.
A guy who comes to a girl and shits on her boyfriend always has an obvious reason.
(reached my reaction limits so this is the next best thing lol)
He didn't shit on him? He said you stole my guitar. He didn't talk shit about Chad. Stop taking things out of your ass lol. I would suggest replaying the scene again. Fuckface didn't even knew Sage had his guitar or Chad gave her the guitar. Which sage got the hint of unless she is extremely dumb af. Fuckface politely ask her return the guitar, he doesn't care what sage think about him or even if she trust him.A guy who comes to a girl and shits on her boyfriend always has an obvious reason.
You and I just see it differently, that's all. You're saying Quinn is pretending to be innocent. But I see it differently. She just lives a normal life. She shouldn't be running and screaming - "I'm a sinner." And of course she hides some of her actions. It would be stupid not to hide it. But she doesn't meddle with other people with some kind of idiotic kindness. Like Jill, for example. - "I'm ready to help you. You need help !" I want to tell these people only one thing - "Fuck you, you stupid bitch, help someone else, but fuck off from me."I'm not saying she can't do that. Just that the claim "she isn't hiding what she is, unlike the others", is bullshit.
