felicemastronzo

Devoted Member
May 17, 2020
11,170
21,831
I mean in the non throuple scenario I think they will break up eventually and the only way to keep them together is the throuple way.

About Jill is true, but for non Jill non Quinn routes you still don't know. I'm curious about the connection between Jill and Quinn is going to be. My bet is Lana.
the problem with the non trouple is managing the event well, something DPC doesn't excel at, it risks becoming a WTF moment in most games (like "fuck fuck fuck"). but i agree with you that their fate is sealed and that MC can do nothing "as a friend" to save the relationship.

handling of Jill's friends remains weird, but I have to admit that DPC got away with it, now MC has seen them, he only needs to see them again on any occasion (e.g. the initiative Jill cares so much about) with official mates to understand what's going on. (hoping that DPC does not want to make him look like an idiot again)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Wizard_Shiryuu

ProxyGist

Member
May 8, 2023
479
2,015
I mean in the non throuple scenario I think they will break up eventually and the only way to keep them together is the throuple way.

About Jill is true, but for non Jill non Quinn routes you still don't know. I'm curious about the connection between Jill and Quinn is going to be. My bet is Lana.
I don't think trouple's break up is planned, the player will be able to keep it, but he'll probably have to be constantly balancing between the two sides. But a breakup between Maya and Josy is more likely, and one can speculate if DPC will give a chance to save their relationship or if he will support one side in every way possible and then set Josy or Maya up with other girls.
 

Wizard_Shiryuu

Engaged Member
Sep 6, 2019
2,740
5,955
I don't think trouple's break up is planned, the player will be able to keep it, but he'll probably have to be constantly balancing between the two sides. But a breakup between Maya and Josy is more likely, and one can speculate if DPC will give a chance to save their relationship or if he will support one side in every way possible and then set Josy or Maya up with other girls.
That's what I mean. The only way to save it (imo) is from within and with the player balancing it out. If they're alone I think they will eventually break up.
 
  • Like
Reactions: felicemastronzo

Ruff Ryder

Member
Aug 18, 2020
440
544
if they are in the trouple every problem is shown to have been overcome, in the ninth chapter they appear happy.

it is always possible that their fate is sealed anyway, but then we must expect a few more 'canon' episodes

a bit like what happened with Jill's unfaithful friends, the first to see them is an MC who is in a relationship with Quinn, while only an MC in a relationship with Jill knows them personally, now however any MC can understand what is going on.

one piece is still missing (so at least one more chapter)
Hey I love your profile pic character.
Is it from No More Secrets or who's that woman? I'd like to play this one.
 
Mar 2, 2022
90
1,719
AMAZING!! When episode 10?
OUTDATED
Glad to hear you enjoyed the game! I'm happy to give you a run down on episode 10s development.
What we are currently waiting on:

Scenes
  • Lewd Scenes - 3 Remaining in development
    1. Written but still requires art
    2. Needs writing and art
    3. 10-20 Renders required
  • Freeroams - 3 Remaining in development
    • 3 freeroams still require phone content and testing
  • Normal Scenes - 2 Remaining in development
    1. Partial writing
    2. Written but still requires art
Renders
The last reported numbers was 5405 out of the expected 5700. I'd expect it to be ≈5550 now.

Animations
Last reported animation count was 237 rendered and 32 posed. I'd expect it to be ≈251 rendered and 32 posed.
Target is 350 animations. This will be the bottle neck for the episode. I'm predicting 21/10/2023 for when the animations finish development.

Testing
On top of all the previous work to be completed DPC has stated he estimates 2 weeks for testing.
I believe early November is looking like the best bet.

If you're looking anything else in regards to episode 10 hopefully this post will help you out!
I'd strongly recommend checking out mpa71s BigTable for a great run down and comparison for episodes development.
[Latest Update]


[Status Updates]


[Episode 10 Previews]


[Cosmetic Polls]

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

[Episode 10 Clone Series]

[Rooster Collection]


[QnA]




[mpa71's BigTable]


[Wallpapers]

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Leave the orginal posters a like if you can!
 
Last edited:

walker188

Active Member
Apr 30, 2017
658
1,928
Same bit skeptical the episode is that massive. Only way I see it been true is if he tested the Others branch. You potentially have Zoey, Riona, Quinn, Lily, Nicole, Camila, Sarah, Melanie and I think Jade/Cathy on that branch as well as women like Sally, Tiffani etc. If he's given a lot of the Others women content that'd likely add up very fast if most of it is accessible on one run without locking of another woman's scene and story. I doubt it but that's possible I suppose.
I don't think Camila, Sarah or Mel (that last one really hurts) are getting unique routes. At least not ones comparable to a full path LI. I haven't seen anything to make.me think otherwise.
 

znar25

Well-Known Member
Apr 25, 2021
1,574
4,420
He said that the lewd scene would be a plot point, meaning this scene could not be avoided and would be closely related to the main plot. And he said in one sentence. So there will be a plot event first and then the sex. If he's talking about the main girl and we mean Josy, then it will be something that could lead to the breakup of the trouple. For example, they might fight again and temporarily split up and Josy might come to MC for comfort no matter what branch he's on. That sounds plausible. In that case, for the remaining 11 and 12 episodes, the protagonist will have the choice to try to reconcile them or to fight them completely. But on the other hand it's unclear what will happen in the fourth season if the third season develops so rapidly.
Josy comes home tired again from another long and tiring shift at The Pink Rose. She lays down the law to Maya. Get a job or we're through.

:ROFLMAO:
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Chaosguy

Orgitas

Well-Known Member
Jan 5, 2023
1,995
6,697
I don't want DPC to rush anything. Better to get it right. January or February '24 is OK.
He is almost at the end of development already. Essentially just tidying up now as the main meat and potatoes is pretty much done. So rounding things off, doing the last few renders, and fixing bugs and all that. Something really bad would have to happen for it to be pushed back to early 2024.
 

Kpyna

Active Member
Dec 16, 2022
616
2,108
Nice analysis.
I still have one candidate.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

He is good candidate too, because he is in fact the very first (of those whom we can notice) who visited the bathroom.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

What if this major choice wasn't designed to expose a cheater?
I, personally, never told that. I think it's mostly the choice of sharing the boat with cheater(s) or sink this boat, while neutrality allows us just not participate and watch where is this boat going. Any choice will have consequences and I doubt that you will like both Chick and DIK ones, while Neutral are hardly achievable at that moment, since you can do only 3 Chick or DIK choices previously to get this option.

What if this major choice wasn't designed to expose a cheater?
No LI runs the risk of being the cheater. They don't go to the toilet and they also learn everything.
No MG - 100%, but I'm not sure in SGs. I hope it will not touch them too.

- In EP8, if you pay attention, you know what to study and when to get 110% on every midterm. Oddly enough, English has to be learned together with Josy, Maya, Derek and the MC.
you can boost one up to 140% or do a balanced preparation and get 120% for both, add here Derek's cheats and Magnar boosts and all this tests are quite easy at the second half of Season 2. Regarding learning English, it's because last time they learned math, with only difference - w/o Derek, but with Jill.

- In EP9 actually all cheat contestants are not at the dorm party. You learn.
emm, what? EP8 probably? Also, studying doesn't guarantee that person will not cheat. Studying and cheating gives the better result. Because otherwise you will look very suspective during midterms. Just like Gina. And she participated at the dorm party, she had a lot of fun there :ROFLMAO:
ep8_party_fuck_event2.jpg

Guy to the left is the one, whom we also met and the Halloween party (not 100% sure, since some model details are different, like hands and nose? but profile and hair are 100% matching):

ep9_dik1_derek_event10.jpg
ep9_diks_ph3_mj_event139.jpg

But now comes something interesting.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
But it doesn't end there. The MC then meets Sage later that same day. On the same day? Isabella was wearing the top that day, which Sage recognized in EP9. Sage also asks the MC if he has studied and gives the MC some tips about the midterm exams. Sage is a Burke, that will be important later.
While WE (as players) haven't seen Bella in this outfit, I suppose Sage had. It looks like her "home" outfit, since she wears it when checking the tests in EP9, also she comes in this outfit to the party. Sage has nothing with Bella regarding midterms/exams/whatever, Bella is not her teacher, she is her mentor on diploma work.
Of course Sage gave MC some tips, because she is oh her 4rd year, while MC is a freshman.

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
You put a sence into everything and link absolutely different events at the same time. Sometimes you should just hear and trust people, w/o any overthinking. We haven't seen Elena in classes and even in campus. To link her somehow to the cheating sheets and this particular midterms we need to know 100% that she was there same day. Midterms takes time (2 hours?), and I don't think that those cheating papers was intended and left for a different groups of students.

Even for one group, such cheating is arrogance and an incredible risk, but leaving them there even longer is just madness. And it is unlikely that the questions and tests are the same for students of different years as well. Elena on her 2nd? And if I remember right MC mentioned while talking with Maya that they will have common classes like English and math only during the first year.

It's just a fun moment with Elena and I heavliy doubt, that she occupy bathroom booth in campus for hours to play a 3-tile on phone.

Isabella met with Isabella when she was wearing the particular top, i.e. after the MC asked Isabella about the English test questions. Sage informs her father about this and there is a reason for that. That reason could be Cathy.
:oops: So, we have 2 Bella's ? or have you made a typo again?
So, MC, jokingly, asks Bella about the answers to the tests (or at least just checks the boundaries of what is allowed), Bella... she goes to Sage (we remember that she had a preconceived opinion about her, which changed after a couple of meetings in the library regarding her diploma work) to get answers to tests for MC... and puts them in the bathroom booth. Since MC did not ask anyone about math, but it is the answers to it that he finds first. I would say that this is all far-fetched. What Cathy? She changed job a weeks ago...

Cathy had connections to the DIKs, especially Rusty. She helped the DIKs from the beginning and I think also with the midterm exams for the freshmen. The Diks had their hands full with the founding and perhaps had the wrong priorities. She gave the DIKs the test questions for English and mathematics. Cathy will have informed Stephen about this in her letter of resignation. But Stephen has to react now.
Rusty is on 3rd year and definitely haven't English and math classes and tests. We haven't seen any other DIKs in classes with an except for Derek, since MC and him are both freshmen and on 1st year.

Cathy was intimate with Stephen, while Bella probably not (if she is not liying regarding 3 years w/o man). Cathy doesn't have feelings for Stephen, it was just an affair. That's why she even ventured to use Swyper. Stephen is interested in Bella, it's obvious, but just like in the case of Cathy, it's not about feelings, but about the desire to have an affair and sex.

With the help of Sage, he puts Elena in the bathroom, where Elena discovers the papers. She waits to see who uses her and that includes the MC. He has it in hand. The only problem now is so that the MC can be good at math and Cathy noticed that too. So Stephen changed the English test questions beforehand. How? The questions and answers were the same, but the order was not.
oh god :HideThePain::FacePalm:
Do you even realise that MC should be on Bella's branch for this to work, because otherwise we have an option with Bella not liking MC (for example). The same with Elena. If you won't accept her special shot at the dorm party, then they are not bonding and become friends. Scene in Halloween then played in this way:

ep9_party_planning7d.jpg

Why the hell Elena have to help MC if she even doesn't consider him as friend? And not even help, but take a risk and do a dirty stuff, for the sake of what? Why you think that somebody would help MC while he even never asked for? This cheating sheets was prepared for some person or a several persons and our major choice probably won't touch MC himself, but may (and probably will) affect somebody else fate and college life, and as it usually happenes, chain of events will play out in a couple of ways at least. All this may accumulate to the end of the game with some of other our choices and actions (smoking weed, probably doing different drugs in the future, public sex, using restaraunt, affairs with teachers...), so even MC can be affected and get a bad game ending due to this, but don't expect something, at least until the second half or end of S4 in such case.

Since we haven't any differences in scenes with Bella, Elena, Sage regarding midterms and so on - it haven't any sence.

Why is that important? The DIKs still had the old first semester intermediate exam questions and Isabella stands out so that they are the correct answers to other questions. The trap worked. The MC is clean because he had the right answers to the right questions. But the person who didn't have that learned with the old midterm exam questions that the DIKs had. Stephen Burke makes a deal and finds out who cheated and can watch that person. Why should he do that?
First part of this is a good take. I mean it may explain where and how this answers came from. And why somebody fucked up putting correct answers to a non-matching questions. Somebody was in a hurry or just too dumb.

But it's just a version, since we haven't a clue how tests and questions are changed from year to year. Are they just being mixed or they changed in a more complex way. Because the other reason for this to happen is that you need to remember all answers well, including the questions numbers. It's easy to fuck up just by reading and trying to remember things. Especially when you hurry, dumb or you doesn't study at all, but just trying to rely on such cheating stuff at midterms and exams. Who was a definitely "not ready" stereotype, so MC noticed that? Gina. She even didn't tried to write something. She was sitting with empty papers, relying on those cheating sheets in the bathroom booth.

This person resold Cathy's old freshmen midterm exam questions and that is not good for B&R. I thought of Tommy first

Tommy wouldn't sell anything to the alphas that would help them. But Dawe and Anthony failed the exams. At this, Anthony mentioned to Cathy that he passed the exams, to which Cathy says he didn't. Cathy realized that Dawe and Anthony were cheating because Cathy had already changed the midterm exam questions a year earlier and let them both fail the exams. She did this partly to protect herself. Here we have a reason why Cathy Cluck existed in EP4. Cathy wanted Dawe and Anthony out of the way because of the midterm exams. Then the MC also humiliated Dawe in EP2 and the DIKs fucked his Arieth. Pure revenge and two birds with one stone.
Another good take. Alphas is also a plausible version, especially in conjunction with those mismatched questions/answers. Since even to cheat, the person should have some intelligence, but Dawe & Anthony are dumb as fuck, like Arieth. And since we seen Anthony and Dawe at this midterms... As I said it also sounds plausible. They are not freshmen, I even can't predict how much years they failed math and English classes. Cathy mentioned that both will probably stay for another year. So it's already happened, we just don't know how much times.
 
  • Like
Reactions: zarachi

Kpyna

Active Member
Dec 16, 2022
616
2,108
the problem with the non trouple is managing the event well, something DPC doesn't excel at, it risks becoming a WTF moment in most games (like "fuck fuck fuck"). but i agree with you that their fate is sealed and that MC can do nothing "as a friend" to save the relationship.
There are a lot of available choices before the end of S2 and a couple in EP9 already. Like what to say them during their fight regarding costumes prices. This choices is recorded in variables, so it's not just a dialogues with no consequences. Almost all of previous "
taking particular side" choices are recorded and transferred into S3. MC can help them with their relationship survival being their good friend. Or he can distance from then and not take care at all, so they will probably break up soon or later w/o mediation from MC side. Or our MC can intentionally sabotage their relationship, while staying in friendzone, with a wishes to grab solo Josy or Maya. That's why the solo routes always seemed very bad to me. Because our MC says to himself at first that they are his friends and he promised not to hurt them (ok, at least for Maya - to Derek). The most peacefull option to get a solo is through a throuple, I suppose, when all 3 will realise that it's not working or they don't want it anymore and then you make a choice and nobody is hurt, since all 3 talked and agreed. Otherwise, solo route raised from the friendship should become a big drama, regardless of girl picked.

handling of Jill's friends remains weird, but I have to admit that DPC got away with it, now MC has seen them, he only needs to see them again on any occasion (e.g. the initiative Jill cares so much about) with official mates to understand what's going on. (hoping that DPC does not want to make him look like an idiot again)
I think this relate to Jill's branch exclusively. MC have no clue who that man & woman and probably he won't know it outside the Jill branch. Even in a Jill break up scenario MC says that it's not his business anymore. So the borders is placed quite strictly as for me.
 

felicemastronzo

Devoted Member
May 17, 2020
11,170
21,831
There are a lot of available choices before the end of S2 and a couple in EP9 already. Like what to say them during their fight regarding costumes prices. This choices is recorded in variables, so it's not just a dialogues with no consequences. Almost all of previous "
taking particular side" choices are recorded and transferred into S3. MC can help them with their relationship survival being their good friend. Or he can distance from then and not take care at all, so they will probably break up soon or later w/o mediation from MC side. Or our MC can intentionally sabotage their relationship, while staying in friendzone, with a wishes to grab solo Josy or Maya. That's why the solo routes always seemed very bad to me. Because our MC says to himself at first that they are his friends and he promised not to hurt them (ok, at least for Maya - to Derek). The most peacefull option to get a solo is through a throuple, I suppose, when all 3 will realise that it's not working or they don't want it anymore and then you make a choice and nobody is hurt, since all 3 talked and agreed. Otherwise, solo route raised from the friendship should become a big drama, regardless of girl picked.


I think this relate to Jill's branch exclusively. MC have no clue who that man & woman and probably he won't know it outside the Jill branch. Even in a Jill break up scenario MC says that it's not his business anymore. So the borders is placed quite strictly as for me.
In reality most variables change some dialogue, the game doesn't forget but rarely makes a difference, of course until now.

A scenario in which Maya and Josy, without the trouple, can stay together or split up would involve a lot of extra work for DPC, quite unnecessary extra work given that inherent 'discarded' LIs
 

Aratorn

Member
Sep 8, 2017
117
253
Many of you are right and justified in your criticism of the developpment time from what I've read but I don't share the doomer energy from recently.
I too would have wanted two releases this year but if you take into account all factors, the dev time is really not that bad for the best game on the platform.

There was the minigame overall that took like around 2 months (yes I know some of you don't care about mini-games but some do, including DPC apparently), the 2 weeks vacation which was very much deserved after so many years of developpment without ever taking time to rest and finally the PCs upgrades which took about 2-3 weeks of dev time if I remember correctly.


All in all, that's about 3 months of developpment that we won't be seeing allocated in the following updates. Furthermore, we've seen noticable progress of the time taken for the animations since the hardware upgrades !

Try to take into account those 3 months, the fact that all his side content is now streamlined with an established process and the fact that his computers are more powerful and finally calibrated as he needs them to be.

If you do so, you end up with an estimated 7 months of actual dev time for episode 10 instead of more or less 10 months without thinking about these factors.
It could be very much possible that we do go back to the 6-7 months dev time between updates if all goes well !

Of course it's also possible that I am very VERY much wrong and nothing changes or worse, dev time keeps on increasing with every episode...

Time will tell.
 

Kpyna

Active Member
Dec 16, 2022
616
2,108
In reality most variables change some dialogue, the game doesn't forget but rarely makes a difference, of course until now.

A scenario in which Maya and Josy, without the trouple, can stay together or split up would involve a lot of extra work for DPC, quite unnecessary extra work given that inherent 'discarded' LIs
I could agree that a lot of variables will be used just for dialogues and changing some of the lines in them, while there is no point to do so for MC who taking girls side here and there, especially sooo far away, starting from EP6. It have more sense than just dialogues. And doing all such huge work, RP changings, variables and so on just to show us some different dialogues in a future, at least when we are talking about J&M sounds like a nonsense to me. It's the same as "feelings for Josy/Maya" choice in EP5. It's important and have to be played out with some significant outcomes. That's why we are getting so different scenes with girl we picked feelings for, if we stayed friends with them. To nullify all this, reducing it to a difference in dialogues would be a nightmare for DPC and players too, it would become a huge fake choice, behind which there is nothing and does not mean anything.

I can accept and understand some choices which are only emulates choices, making the immersion from fake importance, but it's different when we talk about J&M or other MG branches. Each of them have linked and related important choices, while the J&M have the biggest number and potential permutations and outcomes.

Speaking of game complexity and sub-branching of established branchings - well, DPC probably fully knew what he is going for and what to expect in a future. At least such choices should be in his main(core) plot plans he came with originally, because it's important and allows the game to remain decent and consistent. Knowing DPC he will ratherly do more episodes or will increase their size, than he will cut content and simplify things, nullify work he done before and so on, even if work will become TOO complex closer to the game end.
 

felicemastronzo

Devoted Member
May 17, 2020
11,170
21,831
I could agree that a lot of variables will be used just for dialogues and changing some of the lines in them, while there is no point to do so for MC who taking girls side here and there, especially sooo far away, starting from EP6. It have more sense than just dialogues. And doing all such huge work, RP changings, variables and so on just to show us some different dialogues in a future, at least when we are talking about J&M sounds like a nonsense to me. It's the same as "feelings for Josy/Maya" choice in EP5. It's important and have to be played out with some significant outcomes. That's why we are getting so different scenes with girl we picked feelings for, if we stayed friends with them. To nullify all this, reducing it to a difference in dialogues would be a nightmare for DPC and players too, it would become a huge fake choice, behind which there is nothing and does not mean anything.

I can accept and understand some choices which are only emulates choices, making the immersion from fake importance, but it's different when we talk about J&M or other MG branches. Each of them have linked and related important choices, while the J&M have the biggest number and potential permutations and outcomes.

Speaking of game complexity and sub-branching of established branchings - well, DPC probably fully knew what he is going for and what to expect in a future. At least such choices should be in his main(core) plot plans he came with originally, because it's important and allows the game to remain decent and consistent. Knowing DPC he will ratherly do more episodes or will increase their size, than he will cut content and simplify things, nullify work he done before and so on, even if work will become TOO complex closer to the game end.
there was a choice about whether or not to warn Maya about Quinn, and the consequences of this theoretically important choice are to date very minimal (change Maya's initial team at the scavenger hunt and a few RPs after Patrick's arrival)

if such a seemingly important choice has such weak consequences I don't see why having a slightly more empathetic approach to the girls' fight should have who knows what consequence.

but the larger point remains that once MC is not involved the extra workload in dealing with Maya and Josy both as a couple and as individuals is completely superfluous. if DPC wants to break up the couple why should it also provide a path whereby the couple remains together but still disconnected from MC?
 
4.80 star(s) 1,538 Votes