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robin312

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Btw, guys, what do you think about last Vinny visit and the safe in Rusty’s room? Did Vinny open it?

I think that if he was, it mean he knew the new code, and that means he can access to hidden cameras or maybe even installed them in the first place
 
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dalli_x

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That's kinda the whole point of that storyline, if Tommy just wanted to fuck Josy it would make her the same as every other girl in the game, but that's clearly not the case. Tommy almost cracked when you talk to him at the bar, I believe it's the second stripclub visit, if you stay with Derek instead of Sage/Bella, but then just says "you wouldn't understand".

He is very obviously madly in love with Josy, and it's probably the first time he ever felt that way and the fact that she is his step-sister makes it all the more difficult for him.

I agree, that there will never be a path that explores a sexual relationship between them, but I have no doubt that Tommy will confess to the MC at one point and maybe the MC can at least make sure that those two reconcile and have a somewhat normal brother-sister relationship.
What you wrote is such nonsense.

Take the context of “you wouldn’t understand” into account. Tommy asked the MC if he had any siblings. The MC replies so he doesn't have any siblings, so Tommy assumes so the MC can't understand.

The thing between Josy and Tommy is simple. Monica and Pete get married and tell Tommy that he is now the big brother and has to look after his little Josy. But it's Tommy and he's overdoing it, Josy doesn't like it and they both start telling each other off to their parents. This is how hatred develops between the two.

Tommy goes to college and can live a liberated life without Josy. He doesn't have to look after her anymore. That's why Tommy doesn't want Josy to go to college because then he'll be back in the role of big brother who has to look after little sister Josy. That's why Tommy is angry because Josy joins the HOTs. Tommy knows Quinn. He doesn't want Josy to find out what's secretly going on with the HOTs.

I think so Tommy will be mad at Josy, Maya and the MC first. But he will realize sooner or later that the MC is the best thing that could have happened to Tommy because the MC will take care of Josy in the future and Josy won't be such a pain in the ass anymore because she will be more busy with Maya and the MC .
 

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What you wrote is such nonsense.

Take the context of “you wouldn’t understand” into account. Tommy asked the MC if he had any siblings. The MC replies so he doesn't have any siblings, so Tommy assumes so the MC can't understand.

The thing between Josy and Tommy is simple. Monica and Pete get married and tell Tommy that he is now the big brother and has to look after his little Josy. But it's Tommy and he's overdoing it, Josy doesn't like it and they both start telling each other off to their parents. This is how hatred develops between the two.

Tommy goes to college and can live a liberated life without Josy. He doesn't have to look after her anymore. That's why Tommy doesn't want Josy to go to college because then he'll be back in the role of big brother who has to look after little sister Josy. That's why Tommy is angry because Josy joins the HOTs. Tommy knows Quinn. He doesn't want Josy to find out what's secretly going on with the HOTs.

I think so Tommy will be mad at Josy, Maya and the MC first. But he will realize sooner or later that the MC is the best thing that could have happened to Tommy because the MC will take care of Josy in the future and Josy won't be such a pain in the ass anymore because she will be more busy with Maya and the MC .
Josy has never been a pain in the ass butt she soon going a pain in her ass :devilish: :devilish: :love::love::sneaky:
 

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What you wrote is such nonsense.

Take the context of “you wouldn’t understand” into account. Tommy asked the MC if he had any siblings. The MC replies so he doesn't have any siblings, so Tommy assumes so the MC can't understand.

The thing between Josy and Tommy is simple. Monica and Pete get married and tell Tommy that he is now the big brother and has to look after his little Josy. But it's Tommy and he's overdoing it, Josy doesn't like it and they both start telling each other off to their parents. This is how hatred develops between the two.

Tommy goes to college and can live a liberated life without Josy. He doesn't have to look after her anymore. That's why Tommy doesn't want Josy to go to college because then he'll be back in the role of big brother who has to look after little sister Josy. That's why Tommy is angry because Josy joins the HOTs. Tommy knows Quinn. He doesn't want Josy to find out what's secretly going on with the HOTs.

I think so Tommy will be mad at Josy, Maya and the MC first. But he will realize sooner or later that the MC is the best thing that could have happened to Tommy because the MC will take care of Josy in the future and Josy won't be such a pain in the ass anymore because she will be more busy with Maya and the MC .
Your theory is flawed. That only works if the MC is with Josy. So, what's your deduction on that, Watson?
 

funkymonkeyjedi

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Your theory is flawed. That only works if the MC is with Josy. So, what's your deduction on that, Watson?
I agree that it's kind of far fetched, but still makes some amount of sense because Tommy asks the MC to look out for Josy regardless if you're on her path or not. I think Tommy might place some of the responsibility onto the MC if the MC has a neutral or chick alignment and try to abuse the MC's good will and good nature. But if the MC is a total DIK alignment, Tommy might not put too much trust in you to do so in later episodes.

But considering that Tommy is a selfish self-serving egotistical a-hole, he may even try to manipulate the MC into a position of having to babysit his step-sister. To be honest though, I'm not willing to place too much effort in that theory anyhow.
 
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Pax Draconis

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What you wrote is such nonsense.

Take the context of “you wouldn’t understand” into account. Tommy asked the MC if he had any siblings. The MC replies so he doesn't have any siblings, so Tommy assumes so the MC can't understand.

The thing between Josy and Tommy is simple. Monica and Pete get married and tell Tommy that he is now the big brother and has to look after his little Josy. But it's Tommy and he's overdoing it, Josy doesn't like it and they both start telling each other off to their parents. This is how hatred develops between the two.

Tommy goes to college and can live a liberated life without Josy. He doesn't have to look after her anymore. That's why Tommy doesn't want Josy to go to college because then he'll be back in the role of big brother who has to look after little sister Josy. That's why Tommy is angry because Josy joins the HOTs. Tommy knows Quinn. He doesn't want Josy to find out what's secretly going on with the HOTs.

I think so Tommy will be mad at Josy, Maya and the MC first. But he will realize sooner or later that the MC is the best thing that could have happened to Tommy because the MC will take care of Josy in the future and Josy won't be such a pain in the ass anymore because she will be more busy with Maya and the MC .
This is a calmly thought out well-reasoned and plausible theory behind the Josy/Tommy dynamic. I agree with your assessment. (y)
Considering some of your other theories on the game I've read I just have to ask:

Are you feeling alright Dalli_x ? :ROFLMAO:
 

Old Grumpy Wolf

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My MC was, is and always will be with Josy and Maya. This theory is therefore not flawed in my playthrough.

I just remembered something why Josy and Maya are so surprised so my MC only willingly had sex with Zoey, Josy and Maya. The Rooster Cluck from the HOTs movie evening. When my MC answers how the DIKs can only decide with all these hot girls, Tommy writes on it so that it's male language so he wants to fuck them all. Josy and Maya read this. They're surprised so it's not like Tommy wrote.
That's your playthrough, bro. So, in general, it's flawed. :ROFLMAO:
 

Pax Draconis

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I don't know for everyone else but it's just funny because DPC put in the script that if you name your MC "Fuckface", he literally goes "Oh yea, that's right. My name is Fuckface." or something along those lines.
There's also an extra line of dialogue if you do the restaurant 3some with Quinn and Rio and keep 'pervert' as Quinn's nickname for Tremolo.
 

funkymonkeyjedi

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So, after making new saves for the next EP, I've been wondering the conditions to be slapped by Jade in EP9.
I've only fooled around with her once(Footjob) in class, and despite making no more advances with her, she still slapped me in every route except the one I had a thing going with her. I remember someone saying that even in Sage's route, if you break up with Jade, she doesn't slap you.
Does anyone have more insight into this?
If I recall, as soon as you accept one of her advances and do whatever with her. If you don't break things off with her she won't slap you. But if at any point after having done anything with Jade and you refuse her, her path becomes unavailable at that point and because you've accepted her advances and done something with her, you're getting slapped at the end of Ep 8.

I'm about 98% sure of this. then again I could have been too stoned and not remembering details correctly. lol

If he does try, I'll just kick his ass again. Not my job. lol
Same here, even on a CHICK path I tend to tell Tommy to fuck off almost at every chance I get. If I could say something to him directly, I'd just say "You're a grown ass man, fucking deal with your shit yourself!".
 

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That's kinda the whole point of that storyline, if Tommy just wanted to fuck Josy it would make her the same as every other girl in the game, but that's clearly not the case. Tommy almost cracked when you talk to him at the bar, I believe it's the second stripclub visit, if you stay with Derek instead of Sage/Bella, but then just says "you wouldn't understand".

He is very obviously madly in love with Josy, and it's probably the first time he ever felt that way and the fact that she is his step-sister makes it all the more difficult for him.

I agree, that there will never be a path that explores a sexual relationship between them, but I have no doubt that Tommy will confess to the MC at one point and maybe the MC can at least make sure that those two reconcile and have a somewhat normal brother-sister relationship.
What you wrote is such nonsense.

Take the context of “you wouldn’t understand” into account. Tommy asked the MC if he had any siblings. The MC replies so he doesn't have any siblings, so Tommy assumes so the MC can't understand.

The thing between Josy and Tommy is simple. Monica and Pete get married and tell Tommy that he is now the big brother and has to look after his little Josy. But it's Tommy and he's overdoing it, Josy doesn't like it and they both start telling each other off to their parents. This is how hatred develops between the two.

Tommy goes to college and can live a liberated life without Josy. He doesn't have to look after her anymore. That's why Tommy doesn't want Josy to go to college because then he'll be back in the role of big brother who has to look after little sister Josy. That's why Tommy is angry because Josy joins the HOTs. Tommy knows Quinn. He doesn't want Josy to find out what's secretly going on with the HOTs.

I think so Tommy will be mad at Josy, Maya and the MC first. But he will realize sooner or later that the MC is the best thing that could have happened to Tommy because the MC will take care of Josy in the future and Josy won't be such a pain in the ass anymore because she will be more busy with Maya and the MC .
I agree that it's kind of far fetched, but still makes some amount of sense because Tommy asks the MC to look out for Josy regardless if you're on her path or not. I think Tommy might place some of the responsibility onto the MC if the MC has a neutral or chick alignment and try to abuse the MC's good will and good nature. But if the MC is a total DIK alignment, Tommy might not put too much trust in you to do so in later episodes.

But considering that Tommy is a selfish self-serving egotistical a-hole, he may even try to manipulate the MC into a position of having to babysit his step-sister. To be honest though, I'm not willing to place too much effort in that theory anyhow.
The scene that cements the Tommy/Josy relationship for me is this:
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Looks like he's off to have some "choice words" with young Oliver... :cautious:

Tommy's a dick, so he's done shit in the past that's annoyed Josy, and she ratted him out on the nail polish and shit in the past, but ultimately he sees her as his sister and doesn't enjoy seeing her in the shenanigans of the frat and sorority (and it makes him feel uncomfortable with her seeing him). And he doesn't like to see dudes sleazing on to her.

Sure, when he tells the mc to look out for her he chalks it up to not wanting someone going around saying he's fucked Tommy's sister, but if that was all it was, Oscar struck out, and possibly got a black eye from the mc, so there's no need to Tommy to go after him, unless he cares about the fact that Oscar was harassing Josy in the first place.

It's interesting that Tommy goes off to sort Oscar out regardless of whether Josy booted him in the balls just a few weeks back. :unsure:

So yeah, I don't see anything sexual in their relationship, it's just a big brother who feels obliged to concern himself with his sister's wellbeing, even if he finds it annoying. It's probably one of his only good qualities...


This is a calmly thought out well-reasoned and plausible theory behind the Josy/Tommy dynamic. I agree with your assessment. (y)
Considering some of your other theories on the game I've read I just have to ask:

Are you feeling alright Dalli_x ? :ROFLMAO:
I was thinking the same too. I particularly liked how dalli's post stared with, "What you wrote is such nonsense." :ROFLMAO:
 
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