NebulousShooter

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What a strange reaction to have. You fishing out that well detailed, over thought-out list of somewhat legit questions. None-the-less, that list pretty much adds weight to my own reply of mid-story episodes usually cause more wreckage than solutions. In a sense I should say thank you. But let's go trough it together shall we? I mean you clearly spent some time fishing that post out, it would be rude of me to ignore it. :cool:
But claiming an over bloated amount of questions arise than there really are is a waste of everyone's time.
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Every thing in that post have been questions asked and debated in this thread when they were current.

We have the Cathy and the jocks plots since early season 1 if you think that it's a good idea to drag every minor plot and then exposition dump on the player in last episode of the series, where everyone is more concerned with relationships than dpc manufactured drama you are smoking the good stuff and I want the name of your supplier.
 

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I am very certain the release date announcement will happen on Wednesday or Thursday.
I think he will bring the date when it becomes more or less clear how the beta test is progressing. If a lot of issues and flaws will be find, then all of them have to be fixed either way. The more troubles and obstacles - the later announce of the release date and vice versa.
 
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Figured i'd do some charts since we've got at least a two week wait. These are based on the weeks production was completed and not the release week. Week 1 is the first Friday after a release. The final week is when the last static or animation is confirmed. I don't include Interlude in this as it's shorter duration makes the data less obvious to look at.

This therefore doesnt include any beta testing period, but would include the steam build, as this takes place after a release and some rendering probably takes place alongside it.

Still per Episode
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Episode 10 alone has about 2000 fewer renders than all of season 1.

Animations per Episode
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Animations had been steadily increasing but dipped after episode 8. I think this is because he started counting the long animations as 1 where as previously he counted the individual shots making up longer animations.

Average Weekly still Production
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This is interesting as the last two episodes have the lowest, and 3rd lowest, average weekly still production, despite there being far more stills compared to previous episodes. This is probably somewhat explained by the increase in Animations.

Average Weekly Animation Production
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This is a little unclear due to the reporting of longer animations and how they are counted. However to take the numbers at face value, episode 1 is the only episode with a lower per week animation total than 10, though 2 is very close. Average animations per week for episode 11 are hard to predict since presumably all animations will be 60 fps but also the 4080's will be in use for the duration. When DPC says the increased frame rate hasn't effected production time, this is almost certainly untrue. I beleive episode 7 & 8 were the first episodes to use the 3090's, episode 9 changes the way animations were counted and then episode 10 has a mix of 60 fps and 30fps using 3090's and 4090's.

In the 7 weeks between September 29th and November 17th 66 animations were rendered, this was at an average of 9.43 a week. Much of this increase is probably down to the fact that all three systems were focused on animations as the statics were done earlier, it is also probably the case that the animations didn't include any of the long form ones DPC talked about earlier in development. In other words it seems likely that one system with a 4080 can do around 3 60 fps animations a week, that means 6-9 is probably the most optimistic we can be. Which brings me on to this...

Season Comparisons - Season Comparisons
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Season 3 is less than 2767 still renders short of the season 2 total, with two episodes to go. This will end up being more than double season 1.

Season 2 had more than 2.5 times the animations of season 1. Season 3 nearly has 2/3 as many animations as season 2 at the half way point.

However this is where things get "really interesting". Production weeks for season 3 are already higher than season 2. Season 3 already has 88 production weeks while season 2 had 87. In other words in basically the same amount of time DPC has produced 2767 fewer still renders and 289 fewer animations (With the caveat this may be a less drastic differnce with the long animation calculation change taken into account).

However even if we presume the long form animations accounts for the difference, he'd still be down 2767 statics in the same time frame.

Production has undeniably slowed, and while I do think quality has increased i'm not sure it's by enough to justify this.
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Every thing in that post have been questions asked and debated in this thread when they were current.

We have the Cathy and the jocks plots since early season 1 if you think that it's a good idea to drag every minor plot and then exposition dump on the player in last episode of the series, where everyone is more concerned with relationships than dpc manufactured drama you are smoking the good stuff and I want the name of your supplier.
I didn't bother cutting down all of the episodes, because that's how "suspense" work. Also I suspect that his earlier compilations are also filled with more stupid questions. And as I pointed out at the end of my reply, we're too close to the next update for me to even care a 'wittle' bit about them.

And I still don't get why you're getting so bent out of shape about my opinion on all of it. Why is this so damn personal to you?
Would me saying "oh you're right, your divine take on it is sublime, silly of me to question it and have my own opinions". Are you for real? or just having a bad week?

All this shit before you jumped in was all in good fun and banter, you seem to be fishing to elevate this to a whole new level of personal. Which I'm not going to do. Move on already, bro! Sheesh!
 

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So episodes 9-12, that 4 episodes at 20%. That's 4 x 20% = 80%.

Interlude = 10%.

Put them all together, 80% + 10% = 100%. Wait what?

How are you doing in school?
Maths are hard :D
Either way, point still being that the interlude probably not considered as big as the actual episodes.
 

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So episodes 9-12, that 4 episodes at 20%. That's 4 x 20% = 80%.

Interlude = 10%.

Put them all together, 80% + 10% = 100%. Wait what?

How are you doing in school?
Hmm, I wonder if DPC is planning another 10% Interlude-like scene for a Spring break episode 12 or 13. Wouldn't that be dandy? I mean clearly everyone loved Ep9's interlude.. :ROFLMAO:

But seriously, I wouldn't put it passed DPC. :unsure:
 

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I didn't bother cutting down all of the episodes, because that's how "suspense" work. Also I suspect that his earlier compilations are also filled with more stupid questions. And as I pointed out at the end of my reply, we're too close to the next update for me to even care a 'wittle' bit about them.

And I still don't get why you're getting so bent out of shape about my opinion on all of it. Why is this so damn personal to you?
Would me saying "oh you're right, your divine take on it is sublime, silly of me to question it and have my own opinions". Are you for real? or just having a bad week?

All this shit before you jumped in was all in good fun and banter, you seem to be fishing to elevate this to a whole new level of personal. Which I'm not going to do. Move on already, bro! Sheesh!
You took issue with people being disappointed with Ep9 plot development and said that they are wrong, then came my answer, thats how public forums work. Why were you so bent out of shape about people saying ep9 was garbage from anything other than a technical aspect? :unsure:
 
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You took issue with people being disappointed with Ep9 plot development and said that they are wrong, then came my answer, thats how public forums work. Why were you so bent out of shape about people saying ep9 was garbage from anything other than a technical aspect? :unsure:
Well, he never gave me shit over it and I absolutely hated it. Maybe he just picks out the people outright talking shit and not just saying their opinions?
 
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probable next render milestones for future episodes in S3:

EP11: 6000-6250
EP12: 6250-6500

I wouldn't be surprised if the very last episode (likely EP16) reaches or surpasses 10000 renders.
 
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You took issue with people being disappointed with Ep9 plot development and said that they are wrong, then came my answer, thats how public forums work. Why were you so bent out of shape about people saying ep9 was garbage from anything other than a technical aspect? :unsure:
Of course it needed to be said. Because once again, like it or not, Ep9 did advance the story narrative. I look at the episodes objectively. I don't slam them because my personal LI path didn't progress. The game is larger than 1 single LI's story. So it's natural that some episodes won't affect some paths as much as others. but in later episodes that slack gets addressed. It always does. So short-sided complaints always get my attention. There are already enough immature users on here that just can't see passed their beloved LI, and can't be bothered to consume the product in it's entirety, and then sit there moaning about it constantly and consistently. THAT is where I have issues with.

There is a lot of shit I'd like to rehash about the game with my own complaints, but since it's been hashed to hell and back already, you can't find any of my complaints about the game anywhere. So constantly seeing users complain about "oh it didn't do anything for the story waaa waaa" everytime Ep9 is brought up for discussion, that shit got old real fucking fast. So if you're all for circle jerking eachother on something no one can do anything about, then expect me to step in and rub your face in it.

So the bottom line here is simple, neither of us holds the moral high-ground on this. Perhaps I could have put in more thought on the messaging I used. Ok, fine! But the core of the message was more than sound and required.
 

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I mean clearly everyone loved Ep9's interlude
I mean, I played it as a preview for Ep 9 but it wasn't that necessary to put that many time of developement since it doesn't add something crucial to the plot(For now) and Ep 9 was kind of a let down to a big part of players so I don't think he's going to do something THAT stupid again, more knowing that it will delay future episodes developement.
 

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probable next render milestones for future episodes in S3:

EP11: 6000-6250
EP12: 6250-6500

I wouldn't be surprised if the very last episode (likely EP16) reaches or surpasses 10000 renders.
"Hi everbody,

DPC here and I have great news for you all. Since I now have the necessary computing power I decided that from Ep. 11
onward everything will be animated in 4k@60FPS, so there will be hardly any still renders left.

Thank you all for your amazing support in all those years and all future decades!"

:HideThePain:
 

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My concern is the same, there are many "side quests" and the main story barely advances
That's why the "side quests" will be connected to the main story. The main story progresses through the side stories. It's just hard to see which direction our decisions will take us.

Example Jade. I wrote a long time ago that the MC shouldn't fuck with MILFs, because it can happen, so that one or another MILF could be the mother of an LI. It happened. This side story ties into the main story.

DPC himself wrote in his Q&A that decisions made in previous EPs will only have consequences later in the game. I assume that there will even be consequences for decisions made in EP1.
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What was Vinnie doing / looking for in the mc's room?
Good question.
Obvious answer: That puzzle box the MC was fiddling with back in episode 8.

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He found it when he was cleaning his room/Vinny’s old room, had it on his desk in plain sight, but in ep 9 Vinny stupidly thought the MC would consider it valuable like he did, and tossed the room looking for its hiding place. We still don’t know what’s in it. Maybe it’s Vinny’s horcrux.
 

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"Hi everbody,

DPC here and I have great news for you all. Since I now have the necessary computing power I decided that from Ep. 11
onward everything will be animated in 4k@60FPS, so there will be hardly any still renders left.

Thank you all for your amazing support in all those years and all future decades!"

:HideThePain:
We all know Unreal Engine 5 migration is the next step. :Kappa:
 
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