felicemastronzo

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Well, she had a reason not to trust MC completely, especially if you are not on her path.
Look, MC is very controversial - he did both good things and a lot of crap. Fights. Breaking into someone else's home (into Jill's room, by the way) Disrupting the party. Bullying (throwing eggs). Jill very much disapproves of this behavior.
It is quite understandable that she doubts the MC, as for me. Besides, what was Jill convinced of about Tybalt BEFORE THIS? Yes, she realized that he was using the situation, threatening to sue her friend to get closer to her - then naive Jill needed three episodes to be convinced that bad people exist. But she realized that Tybalt is a blackmailer and a rotten person. She didn't know he was a damn watermelon pervert. So, putting myself in Jill's shoes and her nascent worldview, I understand her reaction.

So “sorry Jill, but I saw Tybalt sniffing your panties, you can ask Derek, he saw it too” - I would also question the veracity of these words.

She appreciates him very much. Damn, the woman is risking her job covering for this idiot who cheated on his exams.
Betraying Isabella is an unheard of crime.
Because that's Jill's prerogative. As much as being honest with who she is and what she wants but still closing her heart from other is Sage's prerogative.

Jill and Sage have been the complete opposites from the beginning. Jill is not scared of showing emotions, but she can't be honest with what she feels and what she wants, hence carving to Tybalt instead of kicking him in the nuts. On the other side, Sage is not good at the whole emotional thing, but she can safely say fuck you to anyone she dislikes without caring what they think of her, not counting people that she needs to show some respect to... she has a filter.

What i see in ep. 10 is that line getting blurred and Sage being more emotional and Jill getting more self sure of her needs and wants, which is fucking awesome and is a big turn on for me.
The point is not to believe or disbelieve mc. but to blindly believe Tybalt to the point of not even asking the simplest of questions. The more one thinks about it, the worse it seems.

She condemns mc because she cannot trust him 100 %, so convinced by Tybalt's words (which she evidently trusts 110%) that she does not even try to clear him of the charges, and does not even believe him directly. A very bad friend.
 

Cervixpunch

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Having a crush is no justification for Josy to act the way she does. Sage has a huge crush on MC (no matter the route) and I bet she won't act butt hurt like Josy does if she sees MC with another girl in the next episodes.
Josy not been able to handle it on paths they're not together is actually part of why I like Josy as a character she's painfully human in how she handled fuckface, she got it wrong, knows it but struggles to deal with it. She knows EXACTLY what she wants and it's him, she repeatedly sounds him out after Ep4. Yet she was never honest and went for it despite the fact if any girl in the game had fuckface on a plate waiting for her then it's Josy. She never pushed for the throuple or to make it exclusive despite clearly wanting both. When she ends up with just Maya it's also clear Maya isn't the one she really wanted. On none JxM paths she makes decision after decision that means she loses her chance with him and she really can't handle it.

I feel DPC did a great job showing that if you dump her and Maya. Maya is hurt but keeps it check but Josy just fucking collapses she's devastated in comparison to any other woman. Any route you're not with her the regret, jealously, sadness, desire and love aren't going to just disappear. All of that is more than enough to make someone act out in a bad way whether it be been a bitch or trying to cheat with him. It's not right but from her perspective she pissed away her chance with the person she loved and wants it back. I actually prefer that to her just been ok with it makes her feel more human.

Sage has a huge crush on MC (no matter the route)
Sage was funny with Lily when she thought Lily was using fuckface. Confronted her in front of everyone in a heartbeat with no hesitation :love:. I have a feeling if anyone ever admits to fucking over fuckface in front of Sage DPC will also be rendering a beat down. Doing that over a friend you like but got rejected by.... yeah there's a reason Sage became so popular.
 

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The point is not to believe or disbelieve mc. but to blindly believe Tybalt to the point of not even asking the simplest of questions. The more one thinks about it, the worse it seems.

She condemns mc because she cannot trust him 100 %, so convinced by Tybalt's words (which she evidently trusts 110%) that she does not even try to clear him of the charges, and does not even believe him directly. A very bad friend.
We remember what Jill was like before. She blindly trusted Tybalt and even believed that he was a “good guy.” To say that she was naive is to put it mildly; from her point of view, probably even Unicorns and pink ponies existed.
Now Jill is in the stage of insight and as she herself said: “I don’t know what to believe now.” The world that was familiar to her collapsed and she was in search of answers; she began to doubt if she saw a reason not to fully trust a person.
So I can't say that Jill is very "bad".

P.S.: Me being and talking pro-Jill things, if someone said this to me year ago...
 
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saynotoNTR

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That scene becomes even worse after playing EP10 imo, it shows how attached she becomes to MC and how much hope he gives her, so imagine what dumping her actually does to her mentally.
If you don't plan on dating her you should just leave her alone imo, don't give her false hope.
Breaking up with Bella in episode 8 is one of the saddest scenes in my opinion. It seemed like the MC never took her seriously and just led her down a path that leads nowhere.

I've seen some people encouraging players to pursue romance with Bella (and the girl they really want) until episode 8, as a way to help her become more open to meeting someone in the future.

What a horrible way to help someone. Since when is giving someone false hope useful? I completely agree with you, if the player has no interest in following Bella until the end of the game, don't even think about pursuing her romantically.
 
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The point is not to believe or disbelieve mc. but to blindly believe Tybalt to the point of not even asking the simplest of questions. The more one thinks about it, the worse it seems.

She condemns mc because she cannot trust him 100 %, so convinced by Tybalt's words (which she evidently trusts 110%) that she does not even try to clear him of the charges, and does not even believe him directly. A very bad friend.
Indeed. But I do admit, I'm curious what will happen with Jill now that she fully see tybalt for who he is, and MC was right all along . Will she start to thirst for the Dik affinity MC too, although who the fuck wants to see a 3rd " First time Sex " scene with Jill ?! :ROFLMAO:
 

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DPC is clueless about that street life, the drug plot was always bad but now we have Vinny questioning his source for info on the dealers client who happens to be his family no less, like holy shit, try and fish info like that irl and see how long you last on the streets... It makes no sense, oh boo hoo you lost some clients that buy weed so let's escalate to kidnapping...

WTF is DPC thinking with this shit...
 

saynotoNTR

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DPC is clueless about that street life, the drug plot was always bad but now we have Vinny questioning his source for info on the dealers client who happens to be his family no less, like holy shit, try and fish info like that irl and see how long you last on the streets... It makes no sense, oh boo hoo you lost some clients that buy weed so let's escalate to kidnapping...

WTF is DPC thinking with this shit...
Dude makes a living developing an adult VN for an audience that is mostly over 30 years old. Forgive me if I sound rude, but... are you really surprised to realize that DPC doesn't 'know the streets'?
 

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Honestly, I really can't understand what the fuss is about.

Didn't you realise that dating every main girl till the end made you an ASSHOLE?

Didn't you realise that making MC choose between being friend/being lover with Josy & Maya in episode 4 had a meaning? that you HAD TO STOP DATING the other girls after you CHOSE JOSY&MAYA?

Didn't you realise that Josy, Maya and Jill aren't Sage?

OH MAN

You are playing a DrPinkCake's game, guys: you HAVE to pay the price for your acts.
 

Ottoeight

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Breaking up with Bella in episode 8 is one of the saddest scenes in my opinion. It seemed like the MC never took her seriously and just led her down a path that leads nowhere.
If you chose Jill, she takes it well. Her reaction is: "as long as Jill is happy, I'm fine with it".

No idea what happens with the other girls, since I'm not interested in Bella and I only play her story as a Jill's alternate path.
 

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Dude makes a living developing an adult VN for an audience that is mostly over 30 years old. Forgive me if I sound rude, but... are you really surprised to realize that DPC doesn't 'know the streets'?
I mean, in my mind is basically common sense. But maybe you are right and what's natural to me is alien to him.
 

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Dude makes a living developing an adult VN for an audience that is mostly over 30 years old. Forgive me if I sound rude, but... are you really surprised to realize that DPC doesn't 'know the streets'?
Don't get why some people obsessed with that the game should look like real life.
"Doesn't know the streets":ROFLMAO:
 

diolo

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How much do the developers actually pay you for such a 5-star rating ... I mean, no one can voluntarily award 5 stars without payment, there must be money flowing for it - it would be interesting to know how much you get for it.
 

saynotoNTR

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Don't get why some people obsessed with that the game should look like real life.
"Doesn't know the streets":ROFLMAO:
The funniest part is that, most of the time, those who complain about the DPC not being 'thug life' only 'know the streets' through GTA San Andreas.

At most, these people should buy low-quality marijuana around the corner from the college where they study through a daddy's boy who thinks he's an original gangster.
 
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all the paths are great the story gets better with each update can't wait to find out how the spy camera story pans out.does anyone have any theories on who might it really be i think it's stephan but not sure
 
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ChipLecsap

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Josy may still have feelings for mc, but not the other way around, not after not staying over at her place, after deciding to be just friends, after declaring that he had no feelings for any of the 2 girlfriends, and after confessing to her that he did not think about what their story might have been without Maya. From that moment on Josy is officially a stalker.
I dont know if you completely avoid Josy, you are still forced to spend some time with her or not.?! If so, then in the end it is simply exist for one simple reason, for this line for MC, to go back and stole the paper.
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this is how simply dpc wrote the story, the same way as simply wanting to thank Bella for having said a good word to Jill, lead to a makeout session with her in the library in episode 3, which open the possibility to stay at her place.

there isn't really too much to it. of course if you are on Jill or Bella path, he will remember a conversation with them, at least on my Jill run he remembered what She told him.

the point is the Josy hangout scene play outs 99% the same way in every path, dialogue change if you are in a relationship, MC shoot her down. If you are on other path you can confess your feeling, and if you are on her path you have sex with her.

I think MC does not have a talk with Sage about Maya, that is why this exist for that case. or for the others path. MC need this encouragement and reminder, for whatever reason.

and I assume the same goes for Maya too, this is simply how the episode was designed by him.
 
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Dude makes a living developing an adult VN for an audience that is mostly over 30 years old. Forgive me if I sound rude, but... are you really surprised to realize that DPC doesn't 'know the streets'?
Bro I'm over 30 and I can assure you that if the boy has a target group then it's more likely to be people between 10 and 20 but certainly not people over 30
 
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