ffive

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however it's 2 times that she talks to mc and still hasn't said anything at all, leaving only mc to open up, thus creating 2 more pathetic moments.
At least one of these moments has MC literally stop Zoey from answering his question (because he's scared of what the actual answer would be, i imagine) so don't blame it all on her.
 

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In general, nobody likes ex-girlfriends. Everyone has bad memories.
The biggest problem for me is that I don't see Zoey as an ex-girlfriend, but the MC does (what a sissy). I don't see Sage fuckbuddy as a girlfriend and Sage fuckbuddy's relationship with MC is the same as MC and Zoey.

Anyway... since the MC recognizes Zoey as his girlfriend, I'd rather she stay away. Like you said, no one likes ex-girlfriends and I prefer the MC to have as little interaction with Zoey or any ex-girlfriend he has.
 

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At least one of these moments has MC literally stop Zoey from answering his question (because he's scared of what the actual answer would be, i imagine) so don't blame it all on her.
I love this mental defence that if it's mc's fault you can say it but if it's a girl you have to make an excuse. Zoey what has she come back to? What did she realise from her trip to San Diego?

But did you see the look on Zoey's face at the end of the story? Did you want her to escape into the woods first? It's Zoey who should be telling mc what she understood, not keep asking how much he missed her
 

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It would actually make more sense for the MC to make the first move rather than Zoey like you said. The player can make several choices in favor of Zoey during the game:

¹ [Don't be mad at her]
² [Don't let Jacob hit on her]
³ [Let her spend time with you in episode 10]

I can see the MC making a move on Zoey automatically based on past choices, it would be realistic and still not make Zoey a homewrecker. :ROFLMAO:
I would say differently, the game is too big, has too much information, a lot of branching to keep it all together and not make mistakes - the human brain, even an incredibly smart one, is not enough. He makes an incredibly complex game on his own, I doubt anyone else could do it better. I've seen games with complex branching where everything falls apart. DPC works better as a storyteller, character creator and psychologist - he works great with emotions.
 
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At least one of these moments has MC literally stop Zoey from answering his question (because he's scared of what the actual answer would be, i imagine) so don't blame it all on her.
to be fair I doubt she would answer, she went al dot dot dot and making shocking discovery/realization face.
the fact that later she runs away, and ghosting MC again the next day, shown this. She was not ready to answer those question even though she started the conversation
 
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The biggest problem for me is that I don't see Zoey as an ex-girlfriend, but the MC does (what a sissy). I don't see Sage fuckbuddy as a girlfriend and Sage fuckbuddy's relationship with MC is the same as MC and Zoey.

Anyway... since the MC recognizes Zoey as his girlfriend, I'd rather she stay away. Like you said, no one likes ex-girlfriends and I prefer the MC to have as little interaction with Zoey or any ex-girlfriend he has.
It is mc's story, not ours, that is inevitable. Good writing should help you understand. The fuckbuddy thing is not understood by anyone :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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I love this mental defence that if it's mc's fault you can say it but if it's a girl you have to make an excuse. Zoey what has she come back to? What did she realise from her trip to San Diego?

But did you see the look on Zoey's face at the end of the story? Did you want her to escape into the woods first? It's Zoey who should be telling mc what she understood, not keep asking how much he missed her
that she suck at surfing, lost all her money, and her step dad was right all along. :ROFLMAO:.
and She also probably expected to Find MC in the same state as she left him:unsure:
 
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ffive

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I love this mental defence that if it's mc's fault you can say it but if it's a girl you have to make an excuse. Zoey what has she come back to? What did she realise from her trip to San Diego?

But did you see the look on Zoey's face at the end of the story? Did you want her to escape into the woods first? It's Zoey who should be telling mc what she understood, not keep asking how much he missed her
How is this "making an excuse"? This is what actually happens in the game:
Python:
mc "You weren't just my friend. You were my girlfriend."
mc "And looking at you today, I know that deep down...you were my first love."
zo "..."
mc "If I had said that... Would you have stayed?"
zo "..."
mc "You know what? Don't answer..."
if ep9_mad_at_zoey:
    if ep10_shroom_choice == "DIK":
        mc "This is too much for me... I gotta do something else or I'll ruin this night even further."
    elif True:
        mc "This is too much for me... I gotta do something else or I'll ruin this night."
elif True:
    mc "We shouldn't have done this tonight... You were right to cut me off last time."
    mc "Sorry, but this is too much for me... I gotta do something else or I'll ruin this night."
MC stops Zoey from giving him an answer and then runs away from her. He, from her. Not the other way around. And Zoey isn't "asking how much MC missed her" but trying to address the elephant in the room, which is what they haven't said during their parting a year ago. In fact, i don't think i remember her ever asking MC "how much he missed her". Where did you get that from?
 

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How is this "making an excuse"? This is what actually happens in the game:
Python:
mc "You weren't just my friend. You were my girlfriend."
mc "And looking at you today, I know that deep down...you were my first love."
zo "..."
mc "If I had said that... Would you have stayed?"
zo "..."
mc "You know what? Don't answer..."
if ep9_mad_at_zoey:
    if ep10_shroom_choice == "DIK":
        mc "This is too much for me... I gotta do something else or I'll ruin this night even further."
    elif True:
        mc "This is too much for me... I gotta do something else or I'll ruin this night."
elif True:
    mc "We shouldn't have done this tonight... You were right to cut me off last time."
    mc "Sorry, but this is too much for me... I gotta do something else or I'll ruin this night."
MC stops Zoey from giving him an answer and then runs away from her. He, from her. Not the other way around. And Zoey isn't "asking how much MC missed her" but trying to address the elephant in the room, which is what they haven't said during their parting a year ago. In fact, i don't think i remember her ever asking MC "how much he missed her". Where did you get that from?
"..." would be an answer? Zoey had no desire to answer
 

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Oh no! She came back to see her best friend and ex, and wants to spend time with him, but her feelings are coming to the surface... what a terrible person! Shame!

If people are upset at Zoey for this it sounds like a them problem. The writing for Zoey has been really good thus far, and that's the whole point of her scenes so far is to cause tension. Her being back isn't going to ruin relationships (unless you want it to, via your own choices), it will certainly cause some drama, probably more on certain paths compared to others. However, she hasn't done anything inherently wrong thus far, and her character is serving it's purpose.

I guess if people choose to be upset over that, and dislike the character and/or blame DPC for this... well how about instead just be glad that we are getting this instead of Acting Lessons 2.0.

;)

*edit* I guess people just want zero drama in a game that has been pretty drama heavy, and just want boring plotlines... beats me.
There are like 3-4 guys here who are pissed everytime when LI's im badik express feelings towards the mc while they dont like the LI/it doesnt fit their fanfition romance, being afraid zoey or josy could damage their holy relationship with their chosen li, its hilarious.

And its entirely unnessecary, its pretty clear that it will be the players decision if anything happens with them while being in a relationship (or we didnt even get the possibility like in ep10) but its entirely unacceptable when these girls show some kind of emotions lol.

Like at first they hated zoey because she didnt give enough of a fuck about the mc, now they hate her because she gives too much of a fuck about the mc.

Imo even if you dont have any interrest in the a zoey-path, her inclusion is good story-telling and a possibility for the mc to get closure.

And who the fuck wants to know about his first love and girlfriend banging some buddy of yours? Even if you dont want to be with her again, i wouldnt want anything like that to happen.
 

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On the "other route" we know which girls are currently available... But no one talks about this girl because she has a solo route...
But this conversation happened (if you don't choose him), and maybe in 2-3 episodes DPC will make it happen... :unsure:

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ffive

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Yeah... I felt like the MC realized that: Either Zoey didn't know the answer or Zoey didn't care because she was going to San Diego anyway. That's why he lost his patience, got up and left.
I feel like MC got scared because Zoey didn't go immediately "oh, i'd totally have stayed, i loved you too (and still do), uwu" and so he ran away from the possibility that she'd answer "no, i probably still would've gone".
 
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