1000Spiders

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What are your thoughts about Zoey?

It is fairly clear that story is moving towards the opportunity to bring the MC and Zoey back together.

But for me, and I accept that we are all different, Zoey is my least favourite of all the girls.
I love her. Zoey's a classic second chance girl - even more so than Nicole or Rio. She made a big mistake and now life's maybe giving her a second chance to fix it.

I don't particularly like her character, she was fine as a childhood sweetheart, but then as soon as she came into a bit of money she ditched the MC and buggered off. Then when she found that she wasn't really into surfing and had spent her inheritance she came skulking back expecting to pick up where she left off.
I think this analysis of her character is why you dislike her, and I also think it's dead wrong. She didn't bugger off because she suddenly came into money, she did it to honor her grandmother.

Ever since she was a little kid - the flashback shows her as a child of maybe seven or eight - she's wanted to be a surfer. Doesn't matter that it was a dumb dream, it was her dream. And Grandma was always there to encourage her to chase her dreams. Grandma was the one who bought her a skateboard and encouraged her to learn to skate. When her shitbag stepfather ran her down and told her her dream was stupid, Grandma was there to pick her back up.

Now suddenly Grandma's dead. So how do you honor Grandma? By following the advice she's given you all your life. Chase your dreams.



Now she's in San Diego. Turns out surfing sucks. Jealous surfer chicks with more ink than an entire SEAL team really fucking suck. The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because the other side is a horse pasture and it's full of shit. Money's gone. But Grandma's advice? Still good. Chase your dreams.

And now Zoey realizes she done fucked up. She gave up a big dream - happily ever after with her best friend (and first love) - to chase a little dream - being a surfer chick. Time to admit she was wrong and try to fix it. Character growth.
 

NH1980

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Now suddenly Grandma's dead. So how do you honor Grandma? By following the advice she's given you all your life. Chase your dreams.
Fair points.

I know it is story so I have to suspend disbelief but it does feel that she was away a lot longer than it took to discover she didn't like surfing. Must take at least a year to cover your body in ink and for it to heal fully. Were there not closer places to learn how to surf - away for a few weeks, find it is not for you, get it out of your system and come back.

And I get the Grandma honour thing, but against the life long companion and love, there didn't seem to be that much dilemma.

But all your points are fair, it is just a story - to be fair my major issue is that she came back covered in ink - but that's just me, others and the MC may love that.
 

felicemastronzo

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Now suddenly Grandma's dead. So how do you honor Grandma? By following the advice she's given you all your life. Chase your dreams.
Fortunately Zoey, playing in the park, did not dream that that wooden plank was a shuttle, otherwise she would have knocked Cape Canaveral...

i really have a hard time considering it a dream (and the game doesn't really show us much), at best a wish. a dream is something you fight for, Zoey gives up when she finds out the water is cold and wet, crazy Emma takes more classes than she probably does. she didn't need to move she just needed a weekend trip
 

dalli_x

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I don't think the choices mushrooms will be much more than anecdotic dialogues changes at the future.
For Sally, if in the future a lewd scene is possible, I think that's gonna be a combination of most of the choices you made when you interact with her, and if a variable is already existing for her inside the console.
Your belief is wrong. I wrote about this a long time ago and pointed out that you shouldn't have Jill's money in EP2, and the official EP10 walkthrough confirms this, 8 EPs later.
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Anyone who still believes that DPC's warnings in their walkthroughs, in the game or elsewhere, will have no consequences can no longer be helped. DPC is tightening the thumbscrews and decisions from the beginnings of BaDIK (from EP1) will have consequences.
 

tg69

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No shot... Finally a new episode and it turns out that by some goddamn miracle I've managed to completely delete the game from my computer at some point, which in itself isn't an issue, BUT MY SAVE FILES NOOO

EDIT: Hold up.. The saves files are in Appdata? I might be saved.
 
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Old Grumpy Wolf

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Any news bout E11?
DPC has already started working on it, but don't hold your breath. it will take almost a year, month more, month less
18 months. Maybe as long as 2 full years. He'll need to figure out how to turn the game into a continuous minigame while makin sure all anims are 120fps this time.
 

felicemastronzo

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18 months. Maybe as long as 2 full years. He'll need to figure out how to turn the game into a continuous minigame while makin sure all anims are 120fps this time.
if chapter 11 came out in 2025 I would not be at all surprised, but in the end either 11 months or 13 changes very little

at least this time I still want to play it
 
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Following the episode 10 walkthrough and it says after leaving the mc's room you click on the bottles followed by aerith and then elena but it doesnt seem like elena is clickable?
 

felicemastronzo

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Following the episode 10 walkthrough and it says after leaving the mc's room you click on the bottles followed by aerith and then elena but it doesnt seem like elena is clickable?
never happened...

maybe you have to click on the party camera in mc's room first to unlock it (when you click on it mc thinks he then has to talk to Elena to get it back)
 

Krytax123

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Fair points.

I know it is story so I have to suspend disbelief but it does feel that she was away a lot longer than it took to discover she didn't like surfing. Must take at least a year to cover your body in ink and for it to heal fully. Were there not closer places to learn how to surf - away for a few weeks, find it is not for you, get it out of your system and come back.

And I get the Grandma honour thing, but against the life long companion and love, there didn't seem to be that much dilemma.

But all your points are fair, it is just a story - to be fair my major issue is that she came back covered in ink - but that's just me, others and the MC may love that.
Im the opposite too, i really like zoey, shes prob my 3. fav after Sage and Josy at this point and i would pick her over Riona any day with closed eyes. Wont discuss the tattoos as thats just a matter of taste and preference.

But i feel youre not judging her fair when youre saying she left her lifelong companion. The money sounded more like an excuse she made for herself, convincing herself its better to go back home without accounting why she wants to go back home fully.

But its not that Tremolo or she had anything figured out at this moment, neither of them was aware what their relationship is and what they are for each others, just two confused teenagers not able to define their feelings and relationship. Zoey seemed to be rather depressed too.

They didnt made any plans to marry or even considered each other girlfriend/boyfriend, Tremolo didnt asked her to stay, he just sat their at the train station like a little bitch and said nothing at all. He didnt even tried to convince her to stay for a future together, only when she was gone he took the time to think about it (and suffer) and realise what he was missing.

Same with Zoey, it just took her longer which is reasonable as she had a lot of new experiences and influences. But when San Diego became normal and nothing new anymore she took the time to think too and had the relevation but still is kinda trying to blindsight herself. "Home sickness" was again Zoey lying to herself, afraid of her own feelings or the possible loss going along with it.

I think she supressed a lot of her feelings since her grandma died in general and is just now ready to really live again.

And even when not chosing her again and staying friends with her, she improves the story imo, showcasing how every decision can have a huge impact. If Zoey wouldnt have left, the whole Tremolo at college success-story would have never happened the way it happened.

In a way it was nessecary for Zoey to leave to give Tremolo the possibility to become the man Zoey always envisaged him to become:

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And lets be honest, she groomed him to become "the Conqueror" lol
 

iggy.

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DPC will post a status update on friday, but I don't expect much. Honestly I don't really care and I wont follow this dev cycle like I did with ep10. It was my fault for trusting DPC with his "Episode is 60% done" bullshit in April.

I will start paying attention around September, but I dont expect anything before Christmas week.

I would rather stay negative than be filled with foolish optimism. And if it comes out in 8-9 instead of 12 months it will be a nice surprise
 
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