f96zonetrooper

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Is it just my opinion or episodes 9-10 are not as good as the previous ones ? Of course, there are lots of different path to build, but the stories looks shorter end shorter... Waiting one long year for this is quite disappointing even if i still want to know what happen next (with Riona...)
About the amount of content (per playthrough) :

Splitting the game into 5 exclusive paths has the effect that the player sees less content on every path.
If we assume a split of ca 50% content for base story and 10% content for each of the 5 paths (for variations of scenes, side events), then a single playthrough of Ep. 9-10 would cover only ca. 60% content compared to maybe 80% in Season 1-2 where a playthrough could include several of the Main Girls.

The party planning mini-game for the Halloween party features twice the content than can be seen in one playthrough. You need to play the party twice to see all the events.

Additionally the number of lewd scenes is not distributed evenly on all paths, so if you play eg. Jill or Bella you have less content compared to other paths.

Lewd Scenes in Interlude + Episode 9-10 :
- Interlude : 2
- Others : 17 (Jade, Cathy, Nora, Lily, Nicole, Camila, Riona, Sara & Mel, Quinn, Heather, Madame)
- Sage : 5
- Josy & Maya : 6
- Isabella : 3
- Jill : 3


About the quality of writing :

This is a difficult topic.
+ I liked the Halloween party very much. Great ideas, renders, animations, music, ... Episode 10 content was also fine.
- What I disliked was the forced decision to choose between Others and a monogamous path with one of the Main Girls (Sage, MJ, Bella, Jill) at the end of Episode 8. This lead to a lot of artificial drama where mc broke up with all the (other) Main Girls. Most of the scenes were completely out of character where he dumped his (girl)friends to now concentrate only on his true love. I had a Season 1-2 CHICK game where mc was loving friend with Sage, Josy, Maya, Bella and Jill ... maximum drama and tears.
- It should have been a player decision if mc breaks up with the girls or not. If several girls are in love with mc, they could have talked about it and maybe find a sharing/harem solution instead of mc dumping them.
- The 5 exclusive paths mean that you now have to play at least 5 times through Season 3 (with all the free roams) to see all the content. In Season 1-2 it was sufficient to do 2-3 runs.
- As result of the path decision the game became more kinetic ... the mc now spends more time with his girlfriend but there are less decisions ... the player has no influence how the relationship evolves, it is mostly kinetic writing.
- There is much less interaction with the other girls. The gameplay felt different and lonely compared to Season 1-2 gameplay. As mentioned above on some paths it also reduced the number of lewd scenes drastically since mc now automatically turns down other girls if he is in a relationship.
- On the Others path mc now tries to talk the girls into a serious relationship instead of just having fun together.
- Many of the date events felt "out of character", some were just funny. mc had sleepovers and sex with most of the girls before, so no need to go out on a date to talk and see if you want to try sex and sleepover with each other ... Sage seemed to be completely out of character except when she talked about anal sex in the restaurant ... (After the first dialog in the HOT swimming pool I actually expected a foursome Sage+Camila+Heather+ mc with pizza as date.)

As a summary : high quality game ruined by 5 exclusive paths
 

felicemastronzo

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Wouldn't be at all surprised if that was why. For example given the teasers for the next episode in the last two, anything that happens in Bella's home is probably in DPCs mind a giant spoiler.
we've been around Bella's house enough, so unless he's devoted his heart and soul to the famous closed room (finding out what's in it when they're all there would be unexpected) I don't think he has much left to create
 

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we've been around Bella's house enough, so unless he's devoted his heart and soul to the famous closed room (finding out what's in it when they're all there would be unexpected) I don't think he has much left to create
I don't think it's the location itself so much as preview renders are typically aimed at showing a character in a certain situation (see the teasers for Ep 10 of Nicole that suggested there'd be some form of date night with the player). So for example, given there's meant to be a big confrontation in Bella's house coming up, if he's currently doing renders for that location then showing any character there would likely spoil that character's involvement in that confrontation.
 

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Don't put words in my mouth, if he's only done less than a hundred renders then that would be disappointing, I think that's the situation we're in, he's only started on renders this week, which is why he is now thinking about preview renders for the first time two months after the release, he couldn't provide one when he had zero renders done.

True, but last time he hadn't done many animations by this stage which is why he had done a lot of renders.

DPC's said that with his new setup he has dedicated animation workstations and dedicated render workstations, but reading between the lines on the updates it seems he can only do animations or renders at one time and he can't do both. Whether he overestimated what his stations could do but doesn't want to admit it, or his electricity supply couldn't handle it, but he won't admit he made a mistake thinking it could before upgrading I don't know.
I don't how a lot about Daz hence my bad renders well that in lack of skill, but I believe you can only to one render at a time in daz which is why DPC has so many computers
 

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I don't think it's the location itself so much as preview renders are typically aimed at showing a character in a certain situation (see the teasers for Ep 10 of Nicole that suggested there'd be some form of date night with the player). So for example, given there's meant to be a big confrontation in Bella's house coming up, if he's currently doing renders for that location then showing any character there would likely spoil that character's involvement in that confrontation.
you're talking about a group image, which will definitely be there, but there will definitely also be single close-ups (which are the ones most used in previews).

the fact that in the next chapter we will be at Bella's house is for sure, we may not know if Jill's lawyer will be involved or if MC will make it in time to go to her father's (other 2 events however very likely). i would consider it a spoiler-free preview
 
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jd8097619

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i would consider it a spoiler-free preview
Depends on what DPC considers spoiler-free at the end of the day though, and they like to play things close to the chest from what they've spoken about during development so far. If they've only done static renders for a couple of days following a period of animations I can imagine they're still only posing static scenes and/or the stuff done so far is spoilery. I'm sure stuff will start getting previewed soon enough.
 

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Found some good post on reddit recently, regarding previews and how it should go in the future episodes as well:



Can't agree more with this. Preview numbers in EP11-12 and Season 4 especially probably won't grow and will be less than it was before. 30 previews for the EP10 could probably become a record and the last time DPC got this much to us.
oh please:rolleyes:, he create 5000 render, and post 30 during a year development time because every others are spoilery,
according to him:whistle: Please tell me what are the spoilers regarding these images.
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It won't be a code error and your guess that DPC has something planned for this later is probably correct. I wrote a very long and detailed post about it before I went to work, but deleted it because I wasn't sure if I should post that post. Don't get me wrong, I would have loved to post it if it weren't for DPC's "There's no going back to not knowing." saying would be. The players would definitely be prepared, whether they believe me or not. I would spoil the surprise for DPC players. I'm only letting this much be seen so that not only Josy, but all LIs are affected by this and I can now well imagine why Quinn is not an LI and never will be.

I'll write something to you now, if you see the importance of it, then you can PM me the answer and we'll talk about it further. If not, then that was my last word on it.

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I don't need to refresh anything. That's exactly why Josy only has an old Rooster profile picture of the MC, which was taken before the MC stopped being active on Rooster. That's when Emma posted that Rooster Cluck with Zoey. Only in EP3 does the MC use Rooster again, with his new profile picture. The chronology fits.

No, the picture clearly shows Josy and the MC together and the MC wouldn't have been that surprised by this picture because he was there when the picture was taken. This picture of what Josy is looking at on the laptop is the picture when the MC calls Josy.
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The reason Josy struggles to delete this picture is so that it reminds Josy that the MC told her he had a crush on her at that point. The MC rejected her, Josy just has a completely normal reaction to it. Josy also wants to delete this image from the "MY COMPUTER/IMAGES" folder and not from the OLD PICS or ROOSTER folder.

I'll refresh your thoughts on the subject of motorcycles.
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The Quinn pictures are interesting and I think so.

Do you really think that "party without borders" won't have any impact? Not even after you played EP10 and probably noticed that the MC had a nightmarish memory of it so there was another cum petition where Brandi was with Tommy and Rose was with the MC. Who rubbed his cock on Rose before? Derek. What do we learn when players vote against "Party without Borders", i.e. the CHICK choice?
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Jade is a separate topic because Jade and JM are already mutually exclusive in EP4. Ergo, you mean Jade's Major Choice in EP3.
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Who could have noticed that? Senior feminist Dani. The hell with it. But it gets even better. Two scenes with Jade are canon with her putting her hand on the MC's leg and Jade grabbing the MC's ass. There is another canonical scene in EP9 when the MC thinks to himself so that Sage never finds out that her mother Jade hit on the MC. Hit on and not fucked. Then we find out canonically so that Stephen wants the divorce and Jade tells Stephen so that it ruins the reputation. Sage also knows so that her parents want to divorce. She didn't say it explicitly, but you can clearly tell. Even if the MC didn't do anything with Jade, there will be discord between Sage and the MC if Sage finds out about it. Of course it gets worse when the MC has become a bit DIK with Jade.

It's true that in EP7 it's Maya time, but in EP10 it's Josy time. Just do the math in EP10.
- 1 Maya Sex, JM Sex, 1 Maya Feelings. (Threesome relationship with only Maya feelings, single paths)
- 1 Josy feelings, JM sex, 1 Maya feelings (threesome relationship with Josy and Maya feelings)

Of course Josy blushed because the MC saw his old profile picture on Josy's cell phone. The MC just didn't bring it up so Josy lied in EP9 when she told the MC that she doesn't talk about the MC that much. That's the point, Josy had a crush on the MC even before they got their summer job together. This is all a bit embarrassing for Josy. That's all. I think Josy is damn cute in the entire scene.

Maya explains to the MC at Thanksgiving dinner why she sometimes seems cold. It's because of her mother, because otherwise she wouldn't be able to lead a normal life. She's so used to it that she can't stop doing it all the time. It is Maya's self-protection from disappointments. That's not unusual.

The whole restaurant thing will come back to the MC whether the MC declined or accepted the offer. If Sage finds out about the restaurant and that the MC knew about it, Sage will confront the MC. Of course it gets worse if the MC accepted the offer and the next level of escalation would be if he used the restaurant.

No, I'm not overthinking it, because Isabella's canonical kiss might have a meaning that I won't express here. The reason is what is at the top. So that there were no variables for the Isabella Foggy decision is no longer important.

The Quinn and Riona thing didn't write so it was because of the visibility from above. The point is simply so Riona probably knows what Quinn did.

People get sick, that's true. But I forgot to write down one detail. When you are sick, you need medicine, but when you have injuries like swelling, bruises, you should put ice on it. What does Riona want to get again? Real ice cream. Let's be honest, Mick and Vinny didn't ask Riona to get in the van, they forcefully put Riona in the van. I would be more surprised if Riona doesn't even have a bruise. So we already know what Mick and Vinny have done, just not what they're going to do next. Of course it's a foreshadowing. I would be surprised if DPC had been a bit more explicit. I just mean so that it wasn't written on the red sneakers that Chad and Troy are a gay couple.

You're misunderstanding something. This is all a huge clue. What do we learn from Becky herself in EP10? That she doesn't know who the guy with the big cock in the photo is and Becky considers not only the MC, but also Leon. Why? Because Leon wrote it himself in a Rooster Cluck and Sarah did that too. What is Becky known for? Gossip. Next to Becky are Riona and Camila and if the MC was DIK, the two of them had a lot of gossip. Including the canonical cum petition. I also want a DIK to fuck brother Becky. Whom? Leon, Becky's second candidate. Leon said yes so he wouldn't sleep alone in the tent.

Maya's courage challenge to Josy is exaggerated with the beer pong. Josy asked Maya for a kiss, nothing more. I think it's better not to let Josy and Maya's Chicken Race get out of hand. This could lead to problems between Josy and Maya at some point. It's one thing to have a threesome relationship, but it's another thing to keep a threesome relationship going.

No, I only have 1 save without beer pong. Maya then just challenges Josy to kiss the MC in a socially embarrassing way. Are you familiar with that? It's exactly what Josy said during English class. Without beer pong, you're killing three birds with one stone. The chicken race doesn't get out of hand, Becky doesn't get any gossip material and Leon has a night with Becky.

Fact, there is money. The images still have a connection to the game. Moon and money. The MC can steal money from Jill and that had consequences. So it's better not to steal money from Maya. What do the giant spider, the fire and the film tape have in common? There was a giant spider in Leon's room in EP9 and the MC even said that he wasn't afraid of spiders, but then they don't have to be that big. What happened to the room? The conversation between Heather and the MC. Elena tells Tommy in EP8 so he could get burned and which room definitely wasn't checked for cameras? Tommy's room where he fucked Christie. Hamsters and flowers. What the MC has to take care of. His pets and his plant. The fish will bring money and the flowers will bring good blowjobs. The remaining two pictures have to do with Josy and Maya. Maya and Josy became a couple when they shared a tent together in the summer and a year later, Josy, Maya and the MC are lying in a tent where it's cold outside. Equal three-way relationship.

You only see the UFO, but I see three kids going to a house. What movie did Maya and the MC watch in EP1? ”The Secret in His Closet". There is a Jonathan who is supposed to hide under the bed. Who can hide under Maya's bed. The MC. Even the title of the film is somehow familiar. In Derek's Closet, Is there something secret? A camera. Maybe more.
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Depends on what DPC considers spoiler-free at the end of the day though, and they like to play things close to the chest from what they've spoken about during development so far. If they've only done static renders for a couple of days following a period of animations I can imagine they're still only posing static scenes and/or the stuff done so far is spoilery. I'm sure stuff will start getting previewed soon enough.
looking at the previews of the last chapters I would say we can get an idea.

an LI or SG taking center stage,. even in an unseen setting (yoga class for example), whether during sex or not, changes in looks are not a problem

I would say that there are generally plenty of them
 

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As a summary : high quality game ruined by 5 exclusive paths
Ever wondered why choice based games in game industry usually get reactions like "Oh, what a great first episode! I had this and this made, can't wait how my decisions will impact that" in early episodes to "Oh, that was a disappointment. I mean, it's alright but I expected more"?

Good examples of that are Mass Effect series, Fahrenheit and Life Is Strange.
The whole narrative of these games are usually - first half(or two games, as with Mass Effect per se) you make choices and in the second half or closer to the third act you face the consequences of your choices. It's just the way how the storytelling in these games works.
We probably have 1-2 episodes where major plot choices will be made by MC and impact the picture/subplots here and there, but after that, it will be mostly "watch what you've done" with illusion of a choice put here and there.

5 exclusive paths was a pretty decent idea if you could cheat on your partner(well, there is a counter and noone says there won't be any possibilities in the future, but who knows, right?) and face the music later.

Change of tone to more serious from fun filled episodes early on was inevitable, come on)
Let's just pray that we won't get another Leah in here)
 

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oh please:rolleyes:, he create 5000 render, and post 30 during a year development time because every others are spoilery,
according to him:whistle: Please tell me what are the spoilers regarding these images.
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hmm... let's say, the further we go in the game and closer to the end, the % of scenes, even the "canon" ones will reveal and spoiler too much with each new episode to be shown as preview. Even if we assume, that this EP11 will also be released sometime in December, DPC already spent 2 months not giving us any, and it means that to maintain the previous number of previews per episode he have to release them more frequent than he did before. It was a 1 preview in ~12 days for EP10. To get same 30 previews for EP11, he have to release them every 9-10 days if he will start it just now.

And the release of previews also depends on the scenes he is working on. He will not specifically change something in his schedule or adjust his creative mood just to write some kind of suitable for the preview scene today or tomorrow. He mentioned that he started working on static renders and even mentioned that he already has ~400 of them ready (200 for the very lewd scene that he mentioned and 200 for regular scenes), and since we still haven't got any previews of ~15% of the total number of renders in the EP11, means that all of them are unsuitable for previews, because would have reveal or spoiler too much. Of course, there will be casual scenes like those you gave as an example above, but with each new episode their number and the total percentage will be less and less as well as DPC ability to release something suitable on a regular way and tempo as is was before.
 
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hmm... let's say, the further we go in the game and closer to the end, the % of scenes, even the "canon" ones will reveal and spoiler too much with each new episode to be shown as preview. Even if we assume, that this EP11 will also be released sometime in December, DPC already spent 2 months not giving us any, and it means that to maintain the previous number of previews per episode he have to release them more frequent than he did before. It was a 1 preview in ~12 days for EP10. To get same 30 previews for EP11, he have to release them every 9-10 days if he will start it just now.

And the release of previews also depends on the scenes he is working on. He will not specifically change something in his schedule or adjust his creative mood just to write some kind of suitable for the preview scene today or tomorrow. He mentioned that he started working on static renders and even mentioned that he already has ~400 of them ready (200 for the very lewd scene that he mentioned and 200 for regular scenes), and since we still haven't got any previews of ~15% of the total number of renders in the EP11, means that all of them are unsuitable for previews, because would have reveal or spoiler too much. Of course, there will be casual scenes like those you gave as an example above, but with each new episode their number and the total percentage will be less and less as well as DPC ability to release something suitable on a regular way and tempo as is was before.
or may be he just a lazy motherfucker, who know he has no need for marketing anymore, and just throw a shit image now on then, to keep the people in believe, they getting something for their money. Kinda like how pointles the recent , Maya vs Bella poll, considering that whoever win, the other one will get her set in the next episode anyway. :LOL:
 

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or may be he just a lazy motherfucker, who know he has no need for marketing anymore, and just throw a shit image now on then, to keep the people in believe, they getting something for their money. Kinda like how pointles the recent , Maya vs Bella poll, considering that whoever win, the other one will get her set in the next episode anyway. :LOL:
Having known the dude for so many years, these accusations don't make sense, he's not lazy and never has been. But it is obvious to me that his approach to development has changed, he takes into account the speed of rendering animations and that you need to give it time so that the equipment does not stand idle. The game itself is changing too, we have passed the "middle" and are moving towards the end, although it is still relatively far away.

Regarding poll... it may just be an episode number, EP11 or EP12, but it's about a year in terms of getting the content. So poll have sense.
 
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Guys is there a compressed version of the v10? got the v9 before but haven't seen the v10 yet.
Please let me know if there is one, downloading the full size every version is a bit too much for me and my laptop memory.
Thanks in advance guys.
 
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