Nikko_

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Well in that case we can't blame the character, since he is subject to the writing skill of his writer. And in this case poor tremolo is condemned to suffer episodes of mental retardation for the convenience of the story and will have to behave like emo because that's what DPC demands. :KEK:
Would it be better writing to make the MC vastly different if he is chick, neutral or dik? I don't think so. This is not Mass Effect, and you start the game as a "nice guy". Turning him from that to a complete dick after a semester is not good writing.
 

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Would it be better writing to make the MC vastly different if he is chick, neutral or dik? I don't think so. This is not Mass Effect, and you start the game as a "nice guy". Turning him from that to a complete dick after a semester is not good writing.
Well even with Mass Effect, we were still stuck with Commander Shepard and he could never become a villain, unless you're looking at it from a Batarian point of view I guess.

But yeah, there's a lot of choice in the game but if he made MC diverge into a criminal punk instead of the person who cares enough to help out Maya, then he'd be essential writing 2 or more AVN's and the development time would really get even more crazy.
 

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Would it be better writing to make the MC vastly different if he is chick, neutral or dik? I don't think so. This is not Mass Effect, and you start the game as a "nice guy". Turning him from that to a complete dick after a semester is not good writing.
Not vastly, but so far any 'broccoli' interaction has been optional, he also had choices to bail if the character starts to annoy him, or stand up for himself(especially DIK MC). Come ep10 the game assumes you are full on broccoli and are ok with anything Quinn throws at you. There should have been a choice to tell her fuck you and bail on her when she brought him at the drug sale without telling him anything beforehand, instead we got the MC victimizing himself like a 14yo girl trying to guilt her into caring about him. Its as she said it, pathetic.

It might shock you, but there are many Quinn fans that actually like her like she is and don't want to fundamentally change her. DPC seems to not care that much about that portion and assumes everyone is on the 'I can fix her' train.
 
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It might shock you, but there are many Quinn fans that actually like her like she is and don't want to fundamentally change her. DPC seems to not care that much about that portion and assumes everyone is on the 'I can fix her' train.
As much as he likes drama, it would probably be a matter of too much work to diverge the story that much. Though I would like it. I like to see a lot of story choices.
 

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So...Man slut Sage path or Devoted Sage path? Your thoughts?
I've done both, but if it's your first time do multiple saves and if you like to see all outcomes, do at least one as a DIK, and understand one side girl is definitely a land mine. Not saying who.
 

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Not vastly, but so far any 'broccoli' interaction has been optional, he also had choices to bail if the character starts to annoy him, or stand up for himself(especially DIK MC). Come ep10 the game assumes you are full on broccoli and are ok with anything Quinn throws at you. There should have been a choice to tell her fuck you and bail on her when she brought him at the drug sale without telling him anything beforehand, instead we got the MC victimizing himself like a 14yo girl trying to guilt her into caring about him. Its as she said it, pathetic.

It might shock you, but there are many Quinn fans that actually like her like she is and don't want to fundamentally change her. DPC seems to not care that much about that portion and assumes everyone is on the 'I can fix her' train.

I couldn't agree with this more. I don't understand folks saying he can't diverge...he already has! There is a chick path and a dik path. If the dik path turns out to be chick...but sometimes punches somebody, guessing that's going to be a bit of a letdown for anybody who played it.

And to the point he started out nice so he can't become a true dick...sure he can, it's called a character arc. Porn logic often forces it to be accomplished in a shorter period of time...just as he's banged more girls in one semester than the average college freshman out there.
 

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I have a theory, guys !

Remember the naked picture of Cathy posted by DIK's PC ? Who else has access to the PC ? Stephen Burke.

Somehow, he knew that MC fucked Jade. But, he can't share it because of the damages that it will do to a lot of people. He probably hacked the PC, he also may have put a camera to take the picture of Cathy, which is the closest person to Jade.

What do you think about it ?
What if you aren't fucking jade?
 

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I couldn't agree with this more. I don't understand folks saying he can't diverge...he already has! There is a chick path and a dik path. If the dik path turns out to be chick...but sometimes punches somebody, guessing that's going to be a bit of a letdown for anybody who played it.

And to the point he started out nice so he can't become a true dick...sure he can, it's called a character arc. Porn logic often forces it to be accomplished in a shorter period of time...just as he's banged more girls in one semester than the average college freshman out there.
I don't think anybody is saying he can't diverge. It's just a matter of degree's. If you take a story wildly in one direction versus another then you start to write two different stories and two different characters - or more. In a book, that's a lot of extra typing and complexity. In a video game it's not just more words and story complexity, that's a lot more coding and setting scenes and generating images. It's why even games like Baldur's Gate 3 have a limit to how much they diverge.
 

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I don't think anybody is saying he can't diverge. It's just a matter of degree's. If you take a story wildly in one direction versus another then you start to write two different stories and two different characters - or more. In a book, that's a lot of extra typing and complexity. In a video game it's not just more words and story complexity, that's a lot more coding and setting scenes and generating images. It's why even games like Baldur's Gate 3 have a limit to how much they diverge.
I agree, but if that's not the entire premise of the chick/dik dichotomy, then it might as well have been kinetic.
 

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I agree, but if that's not the entire premise of the chick/dik dichotomy, then it might as well have been kinetic.
No, saying there's a limit to how much something can diverge doesn't equal to "might as well be kinetic" - people are very happy with the number of choices they get in Baldur's Gate 3 or Mass Effect. So we'll take what we can get, until PC games become so complex they evolve into something like The Matrix.
 

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That's the opposite: the word started having "profane" meaning only in the XX century.


What are you calling the XX century? Are you meaning 20th century, or Gen X? lol

According to my google search results (lol)


1971 was the first recorded usage of the word "suck" in a derogatory form, meaning "you're not great."
It was 1928 when "suck" was first used in place of "fellatio."
lol boredom at it's finest
 

LittleLordCuckleroy

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No, saying there's a limit to how much something can diverge doesn't equal to "might as well be kinetic" - people are very happy with the number of choices they get in Baldur's Gate 3 or Mass Effect. So we'll take what we can get, until PC games become so complex they evolve into something like The Matrix.

BG3 had years of development and hundreds of people working on it, I'm not making a comparison to either of those games, or saying there is 'no limit.' Just stating that I agreed with the guy above saying that it's fair to expect actual differences between the character on the chick/dik paths.
 

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BG3 had years of development and hundreds of people working on it, I'm not making a comparison to either of those games, or saying there is 'no limit.' Just stating that I agreed with the guy above saying that it's fair to expect actual differences between the character on the chick/dik paths.
Yeah and I'm saying that it's not fair and why.
 

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Not vastly, but so far any 'broccoli' interaction has been optional, he also had choices to bail if the character starts to annoy him, or stand up for himself(especially DIK MC). Come ep10 the game assumes you are full on broccoli and are ok with anything Quinn throws at you. There should have been a choice to tell her fuck you and bail on her when she brought him at the drug sale without telling him anything beforehand, instead we got the MC victimizing himself like a 14yo girl trying to guilt her into caring about him. Its as she said it, pathetic.

It might shock you, but there are many Quinn fans that actually like her like she is and don't want to fundamentally change her. DPC seems to not care that much about that portion and assumes everyone is on the 'I can fix her' train.
I also like the interactions she has with the MC. But she is an addict and a manipulative bitch. To not "fix her" and still be with her would mean the MC fully turns to the "dark side". That doesn't fit the MC character and personality.
 
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It might shock you, but there are many Quinn fans that actually like her like she is and don't want to fundamentally change her. DPC seems to not care that much about that portion and assumes everyone is on the 'I can fix her' train.
I wouldn't say it's primarily about "fixing" her.

It's character growth. I love seeing it. I wouldn't expect a college student to be completely stuck in their ways.
Their character and world view are still growing.

She has clearly experienced trauma in her life and has trust issues. It's nice seeing her break out of that mold.

I don't believe her being "fixed" fundamentally changes her either. She shows glimpses of vulnerability with her interactions and how she glances at the MC. She has worn a cold-blooded mask for so long, that she has become it.

Still, it's just a mask created by trauma and self-preservation, and the MC is helping to peel back the layers.
I enjoy this direction. Kudos to DPC.

A character that doesn't fundamentally change is someone like Becky. She is a vain real baddie. Big ego and competitive.
She attempts to wear a pleasant mask to conceal her inner darkness. But she's so fake that her attempts are transparent.

Becky has shown no inclination to changing thus far.
Quinn is not like Becky. There is warmth underneath the cold mask and potential for positive change.
 
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Speaking of polls, which of the bottom MGs are winning? I'd say I'm looking forward but really, both options suck and we have to hope Patron votes a decent SG up to compensate for the weakness of both Maya and Bella.
$25.00
1. Maya 53%
2. Isabella 47%
854 votes total · 9 days left

$15.00
1. Maya 54%
2. Isabella 46%
1,113 votes total · 9 days left

$10.00
1. Maya 56%
2. Isabella 44%
1,973 votes total · 9 days left
 

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I still think we are going to have 17 episodes. Final episode 17 will probably be split into 2 smaller parts, that will wrap everything up, I guess we will know more when previews come out for episode 11, it's still unclear how much time next episode will cover - my money is on 2 or 3 weeks, Christmas is season finale - unless he plans to end episode 11 with an even bigger cliffhanger, and then season 3 will end during NYE party, so you never know.
I still think we'll have one more interlude. There is no way DrPinkCake will go till the end (2030?) without taking one more huge vacation (that's why he made the interlude: he needed a break).



am i the only one that gets a feeling this game is gonna have a tragic twist, just like his last one?
Nope. The Dude Himself just told in Q&A that he loves the tragic moments.



What are you calling the XX century? Are you meaning 20th century, or Gen X? lol
Oh Good Lord :rolleyes:
 

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Speaking of polls, which of the bottom MGs are winning? I'd say I'm looking forward but really, both options suck and we have to hope Patron votes a decent SG up to compensate for the weakness of both Maya and Bella.
So, we have another dude who still hasn't come to terms with the fact that Maya is the most important female character after all these years, haven't we?
 
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felicemastronzo

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1. Maya 53%
2. Isabella 47%
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2. Isabella 46%
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$10.00
1. Maya 56%
2. Isabella 44%
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These polls are almost always fairly balanced. There I was that choosing 'only' what to see first is perhaps not so motivating
 

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ok so, what do I have to download, episode 1 and 2, and then the patch or do I have to download the Season 3 Interlude + Episode 10 ? thanks.
 
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