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What exactly is improving? Lighting - yes. More advanced make ups and hairstyles - yes. Models shape (face, bodies) haven't changed a bit. Nor skin textures, nor anything else.
It doesn't really matter what specifically was altered. The important part is the overall appearance of characters is quite different and no one gave a flying fuck that it's somehow implausible or the things were ruined. For real, do you genuinely think that if Maya's skin was changed for the better (or if Jill's smile was made more natural, or some other shortcoming was fixed) people would actually complain, or is this arguing for the sake of argument?
 
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I hear this often: “nobody ordered it,” “nobody asked him about it.”
But Patreon is not a restaurant. You don't order or ask for anything from DPC. You sign up and finance the development of his game. If you don't like the decisions he makes, don't support him. I don't know what else can be done here. It's easier to accept the rest as is.
but it also applies the other way around. making 6000 renders is a merit if they are "good," if on the other hand the cost of having 6000 and then having to keep everything is no longer a merit. it is mass production with extremely fluctuating quality.

I don't understand what Patreon has to do with anything ... that is a general support for the work, it is not a plebiscite for every single choice DPC has made


Now this is interesting. Do you have screenshots of these moments? I wanted to look at the problem myself and figure out what it was. And is it even possible to fix this. DAZ has its "moments".
the supreme example : the picnic photo of Jill in chapter six, which marks a very important moment, the first time MC begins to get into trouble about dating other girls, in an organic and believable way, a photo that later comes up at other times. the most important render of Jill's entire story is done poorly.
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I could find hundreds of examples about Jill, but that is too important a scene to be done so mediocrely.
when below MC decides not to go with Tommy just by looking at that picture the only possible reaction is hilarity....
 

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I got confused here. I've chosen Jill Route but episode 9 happens to start with Isabella Route somewhat. Wtf?
 

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Uh, oh.... Maya might be terminal like her mom.

Look at her skin.

What are the odds she doesn't make it to the end of the VN?

Also if that is the case, maybe there would be a cool scene with Maya, her mom and MC!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big Cock Bucket List! (name of a porn theme channel!)

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The Disease Helen has probably triggered after pregnancy, it's good Maya is a lesbian. And my MC avoids her like a plague. Hope she lives a long healthy life without any male touch lol.
 

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the supreme example : the picnic photo of Jill in chapter six, which marks a very important moment, the first time MC begins to get into trouble about dating other girls, in an organic and believable way, a photo that later comes up at other times. the most important render of Jill's entire story is done poorly.
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I could find hundreds of examples about Jill, but that is too important a scene to be done so mediocrely.
when below MC decides not to go with Tommy just by looking at that picture the only possible reaction is hilarity....
"Supreme example" is fucking right! That one photo, of all the Jill shots, should have been immaculate! Because that one photo stops this from happening:

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Like seriously...

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or...

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Let me run that again...

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Yeah. The only reason I can think of that explains why the mc looked at that photo and turned down that threesome was because the photo made him sick to his stomach and he went home to hurl for half an hour! :sick:
 

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but it also applies the other way around. making 6000 renders is a merit if they are "good," if on the other hand the cost of having 6000 and then having to keep everything is no longer a merit. it is mass production with extremely fluctuating quality.

I don't understand what Patreon has to do with anything ... that is a general support for the work, it is not a plebiscite for every single choice DPC has made
The disadvantages of such mass production in a shorter time frame are a decline in quality. This is true.
Something could be cut out of the game, unimportant, in order to make less content in the same time frame and with greater quality... But again it’s blah blah blah, everyone will want to cut out what they don’t like, everyone has something... something “useless” from his point of view for the game. Another one will say "why you cut it", "I want it bigger", "I eant it even smaller"... It ends in an empty discussion as always.
Patreon as a whole is a plebiscite of support, we now have about ~14,000 people who generally agree to support it. But in general, you know DPC, it is useless to try to influence him somehow.
Just deal with it, this guy will do whatever he wants.
the supreme example : the picnic photo of Jill in chapter six, which marks a very important moment, the first time MC begins to get into trouble about dating other girls, in an organic and believable way, a photo that later comes up at other times. the most important render of Jill's entire story is done poorly.
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I could find hundreds of examples about Jill, but that is too important a scene to be done so mediocrely.
when below MC decides not to go with Tommy just by looking at that picture the only possible reaction is hilarity....
Jill. This render is terrible. It's known what's going on here. Making her model smile normally is still torture. This model from P3 Design is cursed. I spent a damn hour getting her to show normal, non-clown emotion. And again it's a time issue during posing. Problem of the model and you don’t know how it will behave until you start working with it.
Jill is special in that, she's only MG that is a base model from the store. All the others are unique and made by morphing from different models. He added Jill in the last moment, as he says.
 

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"Supreme example" is fucking right! That one photo, of all the Jill shots, should have been immaculate! Because that one photo stops this from happening:

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Yeah. The only reason I can think of that explains why the mc looked at that photo and turned down that threesome was because the photo made him sick to his stomach and he went home to hurl for half an hour! :sick:
It was for , a very illogical feeling :Kappa:.
 
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It doesn't really matter what specifically was altered. The important part is the overall appearance of characters is quite different and no one gave a flying fuck that it's somehow implausible or the things were ruined. For real, do you genuinely think that if Maya's skin was changed for the better (or if Jill's smile was made more natural, or some other shortcoming was fixed) people would actually complain, or is this arguing for the sake of argument?
Well, probably it's only your own personal opinion. I like the improvements, mostly. From the "flat" looking characters and environment in first Season and especially in the first 2 eps to the decent "volumetric" ones since second half of Season 2. The remastered ep1 render with Josy in one of the previous status reports shows it quite precisely. Only lighting changed and the picture looks several times better.

If he would change someone skin (any girl, not only Maya) it would be quite bad decision, as for me. Otherwise, it looks like as an actor replacement at the middle of TV series. Too late for such changes. If you ok with such things, you won't complain. I'm always mad of such things, for example, because it sucks.

So, what's wrong with them, compairing to first and middle episodes? Let's see.

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Dude her skin is the worst, like I don't even want to check her butt when she was helping to get us beers, Does DPC actually hates her? Also why was she given fake tits considering her family condition. Also Quinn said it right her hair looks like a wet Dog. Lol
The fake boobs are a improvement over her sand paper ass
 

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This is his choice when he purchasing assets, for which he is not responsible. Why? Open the link using with asset in my post. Look at the preview. Could you have said in advance that this skin texture would be terrible in close-up? No.
His responsibility is for not changing bump maps.
Regarding the bad renders, I can guess what the problem is: DPC is in a hurry when posing. Remember the last special render with Maya. Bad, rough shadows. Also a common problem on his other renders. And I understand why. With the DPCs production scale, with 6000 renders/half an hour of animation per year, he turns a blind eye to minor errors. Visual perfectionism will turn a one-year development cycle into a two-year one with a given amount of content; there is already one example exist.
This will make you unhappy again because you will say "why is he licking every render, aren't we waiting enough? I'll be retired when the game is over."

Viewing angles, distant angles and properly selected light can really smooth out the situation with Maya’s skin. But not in every situation distant angles is possible.
A close angle to the light directed from the side only emphasizes the shortcomings.
As an example, yesterday's work with Maya
No serious skin problems.
He can find other assets to use imagine if Maya had the same skin as Tara from CS throuple fans would be big enough to have there nation
 

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He can find other assets to use imagine if Maya had the same skin as Tara from CS throuple fans would be big enough to have there nation
Now he can't do it. Change the skin texture - the character looks completely different. Recently explained this in another thread and saved a screenshot.
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Now he can't do it. Change the skin texture - the character looks completely different. Recently explained this in another thread and saved a screenshot.
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Of course at this point a change would be odd yet there are a lot of TV shows where characters end up being played by someone else even in really good shows
 
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