VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[broxitar]

You made me think of something when I read that bit. I've been saying the Tri-Betas weren't so innocent for a while now. But reading the "chess play" bit made me realize something. Recall the scene where Derek gets caught-up standing off with the feminists that are protesting in front of the college. while Derek is being dragged off by Jade and you see the following scene with Quinn talking to Rio. And Rio asks Quinn "I don't know how you'll pull this off...", and Quinn replies by pointing towards the MC and Derek direction and says "Remember what I told you about planning several steps ahead like in Chess?".

Who says Quinn is pointing at the MC. She could have been talking about Derek. Because Quinn is fully aware that the closet where the camera is located in, is also Derek's room now. What if it was Quinn's plan to reveal the camera to Derek somehow, as the Halloween party is still months away and no one's mentioned anything about it yet. But what if it has been her plan to have that camera revealed to the DIKs by means of a power failure? She just hasn't figured how to accomplish this yet.

Anyhow, I'm going to keep myself from making anymore outlandish speculations about this. But that scene has been bothering me for a while now.

That's very insightful. About Quinn wanting to reveal the camera to Derek...we don't know who killed the power at the mansion during the Halloween party. And all they had to do was flip a lever. It did seem like a rather simple prank. But wanting to reveal the camera to Derek is a great possible explanation.

At the same time, though, who made a cluck right after said power failure? Karen. She might've done that just to create plausible deniability. And now that I'm no longer defaulting to Vinny being the cause of everything, lol...I realize something else. I'd honestly just mentally glossed over the whole "tri-betas get picked on as part of hell week" thing. But getting picked on as a matter of course, just because they're "nerds," when they've never actually pranked the DIKs back or had any hell week traditions relating to them (or any, period)...I can see that provoking a grudge.

Nerds are people, too. If they came to college to learn and grow, I don't imagine they'd like being picked on. If you pay Magnar to get a wedgie, he has a bit of dialogue where he alludes to this sort of thing being an ongoing concern. With all the focus on the Alphas and DIKs, I'd kinda glossed over the Betas as being part of the campus struggle. But they very well could be.

Who sent the pictures to the Alphas and sent Chad after the DIKs? Could Karen or her co-conspirators also be responsible?

Also worth noting: I think what set Chad off was a picture exposing his romance with Troy. There were two envelopes sent to the Alphas. One for Chad, and one for Dawe. I'm betting the envelope for Chad had pictures specifically of him and Troy. Given how the locker room seems to be the place he meets/talks to Troy, I assume that the picture was taken in it. And Cathy's picture was also taken in the locker room. Maybe Karen and/or her faction are behind all of it.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

That's very insightful. About Quinn wanting to reveal the camera to Derek...we don't know who killed the power at the mansion during the Halloween paprty. And all they had to do was flip a lever. It did seem like a rather simple prank. But wanting to reveal the camera to Derek is a great possible explanation.

At the same time, though, who made a cluck right after said power failure? Karen. She might've done that just to create plausible deniability. And now that I'm no longer defaulting to Vinny being the cause of everything, lol...I realize something else. I'd honestly just mentally glossed over the whole "tri-betas get picked on as part of hell week" thing. But getting picked on as a matter of course, just because they're "nerds," when they've never actually pranked the DIKs back or had any hell week traditions relating to them (or any, period)...I can see that provoking a grudge.

Nerds are people, too. If they came to college to learn and grow, I don't imagine they'd like being picked on. If you pay Magnar to get a wedgie, he has a bit of dialogue where he alludes to this sort of thing being an ongoing concern. With all the focus on the Alphas and DIKs, I'd kinda glossed over the Betas as being part of the campus struggle. But they very well could be.

Who sent the pictures to the Alphas and sent Chad after the DIKs? Could Karen or her co-conspirators also be responsible?

Also worth noting: I think what set Chad off was a picture exposing his romance with Troy. There were two envelopes sent to the Alphas. One for Chad, and one for Dawe. I'm betting the envelope for Chad had pictures specifically of him and Troy. Given how the locker room seems to be the place he meets/talks to Troy, I assume that the picture was taken in it. And Cathy's picture was also taken in the locker room. Maybe Karen and/or her faction are behind all of it.

Yeh everytime I think of how the nerds are constantly getting picked on by other frats, always reminds me of the movie "Revenge of the Nerds". And in some selfish way I kinda hope they do get some form of revenge back. hehe

 

[KАRАMBA]

I dunno, but there's a LOT more going on in that scene from Burke's office.

Come on, nothing special happened there.
Burke is not just getting divorced, it looks like he is leaving B&R, which means that their collaboration with Quinn is ending.
It doesn't matter to Burke, but it matters to Quinn, because not only does she lose part of her income, but she also loses her "patron" at college, thanks to whom she didn't have to worry about studying. Now it's over, and she's furious. This is not surprising. She just doesn't know what to do now. That's why she tells MC that she's going to drop out of college soon.

 

[dalli_x]

You're assuming she actually cares about Tommy that much to tell him about all of her nefarious plans.

Because what if that Camera was installed there by order of Burke. Because in Episode 10 You see her barge out of Burke's office looking like she's real upset. Burke has more than 1 reason to be pissed off at her I'm sure. For 1 I'm positive that little meeting with her and Burke has much to do with Maya showing up at Burke's house for that dinner and plead for help with her tuition. So of course I think Burke must have given her a lecture about that drama.

But secondly, what if he also gave her another mission to replace the camera Derek ripped out of the ceiling as well? Quinn would certainly have tap danced around the whole Maya drama, but "ordering" Quinn to have another camera installed in the mansion would be even more risky now that it was revealed to already be on surveillance. This would certainly be more upsetting to Quinn than just invent an explanation that Maya made up the whole "free tuition" claims, even if it would be a lie and calm Burke down with that excuse. But she walked out of that office like all hell had just broken loose. And looked REALLY pissed off.

So that meeting must surely have more to do than just the Maya showing up at his house for dinner and a begging for a free pass.

I dunno, but there's a LOT more going on in that scene from Burke's office.

In EP4, Quinn and Tommy were still very close.

If Burke had the camera installed, then before the house became the DIK Mansion, otherwise it would have been noticed because of the difficult installation, which then brings a DIK traitor into play again. Then you would have to know how the house was used before and so there could be a plausible reason for installing the camera. Security monitoring.

Don't forget, Sage probably talked to her father Stephen first because that's what she wanted to do. Chad had to become an alpha again. In the agreement between the HOTs, DIKs and Alphas, Sage did not speak well to Quinn. Perhaps Sage already knew more than we players have learned so far.

I don't think so Stephen and Quinn's conversation from EP10 was about Maya. Quinn asked Tommy right after the conversation if Lily could really be trusted. To me it suggests more that Lily was spying for Sage and gave Sage the information. Sage then spoke to her father about Chad and shared some information she had from Lily. Stephen confronts Quinn with this information and Quinn distrusts Lily because, as far as she knows, only Lily could have this information.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

Come on, nothing special happened there.
Burke is not just getting divorced, it looks like he is leaving B&R, which means that their collaboration with Quinn is ending.
It doesn't matter to Burke, but it matters to Quinn, because not only does she lose part of her income, but she also loses her "patron" at college, thanks to whom she didn't have to worry about studying. Now it's over, and she's furious. This is not surprising. She just doesn't know what to do now. That's why she tells MC that she's going to drop out of college soon.

In EP4, Quinn and Tommy were still very close.

If Burke had the camera installed, then before the house became the DIK Mansion, otherwise it would have been noticed because of the difficult installation, which then brings a DIK traitor into play again. Then you would have to know how the house was used before and so there could be a plausible reason for installing the camera. Security monitoring.

Don't forget, Sage probably talked to her father Stephen first because that's what she wanted to do. Chad had to become an alpha again. In the agreement between the HOTs, DIKs and Alphas, Sage did not speak well to Quinn. Perhaps Sage already knew more than we players have learned so far.

I don't think so Stephen and Quinn's conversation from EP10 was about Maya. Quinn asked Tommy right after the conversation if Lily could really be trusted. To me it suggests more that Lily was spying for Sage and gave Sage the information. Sage then spoke to her father about Chad and shared some information she had from Lily. Stephen confronts Quinn with this information and Quinn distrusts Lily because, as far as she knows, only Lily could have this information.

Both of you bring excellent points to the table.

But as far as what you're saying Dali, again you're assuming Quinn would actually be completely truthful to Tommy. Even if they are very close, I wholeheartedly believe Quinn is hypocritical enough to still keep secrets even if she was married to Tommy. She's too selfish and self-serving for me to believe she'd even tell Tommy the whole story. Hell she doesn't even tell everything to Rio..

Quote "which then brings a DIK traitor into play again".
I have zero problems believing there could still very well be a traitor in our midst within the DIKs. I don't see Quinn having the ability to pull any of these things off on her own. %100 she would have needed help.

All this just causes more "head scratching".
But all's still plausible.

I'm not even %100 committed to my own speculations. lol
But I think the more we "shake that tree", the more we might make something sensible fall out of that proverbial tree.
hehe

 

[ReallyNotTimmy]

Yeh everytime I think of how the nerds are constantly getting picked on by other frats, always reminds me of the movie "Revenge of the Nerds". And in some selfish way I kinda hope they do get some form of revenge back. hehe

I know Dr. PinkCake watched a bunch of movies to get ideas about fraternities and sororities; I don’t think any of them accurately portray Greek life (either then or now), but the DIKs “aren’t a normal frat” so that’s how he justifies all the unreality.

But another unreal frat, of course, were the tri-Lambdas, the nerd fraternity in Revenge of the Nerds. Paired with the nerd-girl fraternity, the Omega Mus, although in the shitty TV movie sequels they went co-ed. The jock fraternity and cheerleader sorority were their nemeses. I’ve seen that first movie a few dozen times, cuz titties. It has not aged well: it’s very rapey. Including an actual rape—one of the nerds disguised himself as the head cheerleader’s jock boyfriend and fucked her. Which she immediately forgave because it was the best fuck she’d ever had. But still, you know, rape.

Anyway one of the other rapey things in that movie was when the nerds installed hidden cameras in the cheerleaders’ bedrooms and bathrooms so they could watch the girls naked. And take photos. And distribute one of those photos to sell pies for their panhellenic games. The jocks later took revenge on the nerds’ success in those games by going berserker in the nerds’ house, which is likely where that idea originated.

But perhaps DPC borrowed the hidden-camera idea from that movie too?—a little revenge from Being a DIK’s nerds?

 

[dalli_x]

Both of you bring excellent points to the table.

But as far as what you're saying Dali, again you're assuming Quinn would actually be completely truthful to Tommy. Even if they are very close, I wholeheartedly believe Quinn is hypocritical enough to still keep secrets even if she was married to Tommy. She's too selfish and self-serving for me to believe she'd even tell Tommy the whole story. Hell she doesn't even tell everything to Rio..

Quote "which then brings a DIK traitor into play again".
I have zero problems believing there could still very well be a traitor in our midst within the DIKs. I don't see Quinn having the ability to pull any of these things off on her own. %100 she would have needed help.

All this just causes more "head scratching".
But all's still plausible.

I'm not even %100 committed to my own speculations. lol
But I think the more we "shake that tree", the more we might make something sensible fall out of that proverbial tree.
hehe

I personally don't trust Quinn and Tommy. Both are liars to me. But Quinn and Tommy have something in common. Both want the Alphas out of the game so that the HOTs and the DIKs can only celebrate together.

You're right with that. "But I think the more we "shake that tree", the more we might make something sensitive fall out of that proverbial tree."

 

[Darkwen]

Since BaDIK is kind of a copy game inspired by Bully, I'm wondering if things will go south for him and he'll be expelled and forced to live with the townies. Well, at least he'll have time to spend with Zoey Taylor. Then the Intelude will make sense. It's "Taylor" Zoey's surname, right?

Zoey Taylor like Josy Taylor ? So Josy and Zoey are family?

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

I personally don't trust Quinn and Tommy. Both are liars to me. But Quinn and Tommy have something in common. Both want the Alphas out of the game so that the HOTs and the DIKs can only celebrate together.

You're right with that. "But I think the more we "shake that tree", the more we might make something sensitive fall out of that proverbial tree."

It's my version of brainstorming. Even if I myself , think I've forgotten my brain somewhere at times.

 

[KАRАMBA]

You're right with that. "But I think the more we "shake that tree", the more we might make something sensitive fall out of that proverbial tree."

You guys can "shake that tree" until the Second Coming, but it won't give you what you expect.
Maybe you forgot, but this is a porn game, not "Twin Peaks".
Yes, because of the Great and Divine Quinn , we can say that this is a sacred porn game, ok.
But it's still not a detective story or a psychological thriller.

 

[DaimonFey]

So Josy and Zoey are family?

Of course they are! Didn't you know that Zoey's step-father was at one point Josy's mother?

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

Zoey Taylor like Josy Taylor ? So Josy and Zoey are family?

I think DPC forgot to add that detail field in the "Bios" tab. Would be nice to have the surnames displayed of those we know of once revealed in the story. Would avoid having to start from the beginning again just to double check basic character info like this.. grr @ dpc for that oversight. hehe

 

[GxE]

do i have to downlead patch too?

 

[Darkwen]

Of course they are! Didn't you know that Zoey's step-father was at one point Josy's mother?

 

[Darkwen]

I think DPC forgot to add that detail field in the "Bios" tab. Would be nice to have the surnames displayed of those we know of once revealed in the story. Would avoid having to start from the beginning again just to double check basic character info like this.. grr @ dpc for that oversight. hehe

It because DPC loves him some drama

 

[L1m1tl3ss]

Zoey Taylor like Josy Taylor ? So Josy and Zoey are family?

Not like you would ever know until it's so late that it's ridiculous and makes the MC look like the fucking moron that he is, asking questions like "So, uh... Josy Taylor, right? Right?" as if it shouldn't already be completely obvious at that point in the game.

 

[Elduriel]

meanwhile Neil be like: Witness me!!!

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think DPC forgot to add that detail field in the "Bios" tab. Would be nice to have the surnames displayed of those we know of once revealed in the story. Would avoid having to start from the beginning again just to double check basic character info like this.. grr @ dpc for that oversight. hehe

Burning away half of the forthcoming twists and turns?

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

Burning away half of the forthcoming twists and turns?

I think you're misreading what I said.
Here's what I said " Would be nice to have the surnames displayed of those we know of once revealed in the story. "

I'm not saying we should know everyone's surname from the get-go, that would be stupid. But once you've met someone and learned of their surname, I think it would be nice to have it 'remembered' in the Bios tab.

 

[TREXrg]

I’ve seen that first movie a few dozen times, cuz titties.

how has not
sometimes the movies where decent but so many of the older movies are wierd but have good nudescenes

american pie with there hidden camera broadcast

Screwballs 1 and 2

italian sex comedys and co

and soo many b movies

i personally think dpc is inspierd by some scenes but goes to make sure that he never copies something so he appears more artist