VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[mostwanted8]

no one ever considers Josy

 

[Darkwen]

no one ever considers Josy, it's instinctive not to....

I must be missing something because Josy is the reason the loan getting solve, all the credit goes to her

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

no one ever considers Josy, it's instinctive not to....

But wait, wait! She's important! Josy's part in this story that she's in love with MC no matter what, and....and...

 

[Darkwen]

But wait, wait! She's important! Josy's part in this story that she's in love with MC no matter what, and....and...

She is the first LI MC meet and has feelings for, Josy is the most important really you got to decide on her before the other girls

 

[ModiThorrson]

I must be missing something because Josy is the reason the loan getting solve, all the credit goes to her

That's the point, she may actually be important but people rarely reference her unless it's talking about how adorable she is.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

Then they have nothing to complain about when they fail. Except that there's always someone who will come along and Mommy them back up.

Nature has a marvelous remedy for all that, either learn from repeated failure or die. Problem solved either way.

Nowadays when they fail, they start some new movement on social media and then the mainstream makes it an event...

Yeh let's celebrate our failures and give them a trophy and reinforce the whiny and defeatist attitudes.

 

[Darkwen]

That's the point, she may actually be important but people rarely reference her unless it's talking about how adorable she is.

That's why I'm here so people can know how great my Goddess is, not only is she beyond beautiful but solve the loan story line Josy deserves a Presidential Medal of Freedom for this

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

She is the first LI MC meet and has feelings for, Josy is the most important really you got to decide on her before the other girls

Or abandon her and try out the huge variety of girls that DPC offers later. Seems win to me.

 

[mostwanted8]

But wait, wait! She's important! Josy's part in this story that she's in love with MC no matter what, and....and...

Josy is important. She has her own storyline, it’s not mainly about Maya.
Amirite

 

[DavDR]

I know right? wildlife has been living by that rule since life began, if only humans would live by that rule then surely we'd be the dominant species on the planet by now.

For a long time we did. The relative prosperity of the west is only a fairly recent thing, mostly since ww2. Societies didn't have the surplus to provide the extensive social safety nets that we have now.

Look how it's effected our story telling. Maya is in a bind, and instead of growing as a person and finding her way out of it, the story expects her friends to rescue her. In fact, personal growth as a story motif is used very sparingly.

OK let's assume that DPC didn't want a self growth story, he wanted someone to rescue Maya. DPC could also have another character, MC or Josy, experience a story arc where they grew from an unsure or un caring person to become the person that was capable of helping Maya. But in BaDIK it's assumed that they will be willing or able to help from the beginning.

MC is a kid from an impoverished backround, who logically should be struggling but isn't. All his focus isn't on his problems, but the problems of all the middle class white girl's around him.

I've done a poor job of explaining it here but my point is that this story only seems to make sense to someone that has an expectation of prosperity, and it's only one of the many problems that the story has.

 

[SlowGoesSlow]

Josy is important. She has her own storyline, it’s not mainly about Maya.
Amirite

Don’t worry she’s googling hobbies so that she can be more interesting on her own.

 

[DavDR]

That's the point, she may actually be important but people rarely reference her unless it's talking about how adorable she is.

Josy should have seen the problem with the loan way sooner, she is a business major after all.

 

[Darkwen]

Or abandon her and try out the huge variety of girls that DPC offers later. Seems win to me.

Or just adore her and live happily ever after sounds like a win win, not that anything wrong with Bella or Sage but they not Josy

 

[iamcomming]

Jojo is the new Megan from acting lessons, if i remember corretly her name. so not important, just probably the best or the second best girlfriend material

 

[Darkwen]

Josy should have seen the problem with the loan way sooner, she is a business major after all.

She a business major and smart with money but that don't mean she know everything about business and loans yet but still was able to find people that could help that shows problem solving skills something Maya greatly lacks

 

[shazba jnr]

Josy is important. She has her own storyline, it’s not mainly about Maya.
Amirite

...Look how it's effected our story telling. Maya is in a bind, and instead of growing as a person and finding her way out of it, the story expects her friends to rescue her. In fact, personal growth as a story motif is used very sparingly....

Josy should have seen the problem with the loan way sooner, she is a business major after all.

At least Josy actually called it (episode 7):

mc: "Did she come up with something?"​

Josy: "Nope... And between you and me..."​

Josy: "I don't feel that she's trying hard enough."​

​

She a business major and smart with money but that don't mean she know everything about business and loans yet but still was able to find people that could help that shows problem solving skills something Maya greatly lacks

She's also a first year, she hasn't learned shit yet.

 

[iamcomming]

She's also a first year, she hasn't learned shit yet.

and started the semester with a nice late, because not enough smart to be there at the start, as they speak when Lily come

 

[mostwanted8]

Darkwen be like:

 

[Darkwen]

Josy is important. She has her own storyline, it’s not mainly about Maya.
Amirite

Thats true Josy has her own story away from Maya and way better

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Conversely if the fans universally loathe a side girl, have her disappear like Mona.

Mona was by far the hottest of the HOT daughters, she was far from loathed by anyone.

I've been in this thread for years and never saw any indication that the fan's universally loathed Mona, in fact if that was the benchmark for axing a character Maya and Jill, and of course Madame, would be long gone. And there's no indication that he's eliminating Madame either.

ReallyNotTimmy isn't saying that Mona was loathed, and that's why she left the story. He's saying she left the story, and loathed side girls should disappear like she did.