VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Roger-a-Dale]

My dear friends, I have a philosophical doubt that torments me and that I want to share with you. If Bella's husband died with a copious erection, and Bella still consumes sexual acts with his mummified body, is this considered Netorare or can it be the equivalent of a simple sex toy such as a dildo or an anal plug?

Well since you specified netorare rather than NTR, I'd say no.

You see while NTR most commonly refers netorare which is indeed the most controversial one, the abbreviation also refers to netori and netorase and now pretty much any story that deals with infidelity is called NTR.

Of course I rather doubt your assertion of post mortem erections being maintained all the way to mummification and wish that your necrophilic fantasies weren't so heavily romanticised, but strictly speaking sexual acts don't require penetration to be sexual and thus any sexual act with James' corpse would count.

Whether a corpse counts as a dildo or a person is completely moot. A man being jealous because his wife is more satisfied with her dildo than him counts as a netorare situation.

The reason your scenario isn't netorare is because it doesn't mention a party that would feel that James' corpse were stealing Bella from them (or that Bella were stealing James' corpse from them).

If the story is told from Bella's point of view it might be a netorase story, but only if Bella has actually gotten into a new relationship. Otherwise she isn't actually cheating on anybody.



On a tangent there actually is quite a lot of NTR in BADIK. In a lot of cases MC is stealing a woman's heart from another man, which makes them netori situations. However there is very little focus on how MC feels about the other guy while the woman's emotions get a lot of attention, so the situations are netorase rather than netori. And of course MC himself goes around boinking women left and right and even feels guilty about it at times, so the story is most firmly in the netorase category.

And the main route is of course all three at once. Bella feels guilty about stealing MC from Jill, MC feels guilty about breaking Jill's heart and Jill feels betrayed.

 

[BeingADikDik]

And the main route is of course all three at once. Bella feels guilty about stealing MC from Jill, MC feels guilty about breaking Jill's heart and Jill feels betrayed wants more treasure for her goblin horde.

Fixed that for you

 

[Bazsa4]

Well since you specified netorare rather than NTR, I'd say no.

You see while NTR most commonly refers netorare which is indeed the most controversial one, the abbreviation also refers to netori and netorase and now pretty much any story that deals with infidelity is called NTR.

Of course I rather doubt your assertion of post mortem erections being maintained all the way to mummification and wish that your necrophilic fantasies weren't so heavily romanticised, but strictly speaking sexual acts don't require penetration to be sexual and thus any sexual act with James' corpse would count.

Whether a corpse counts as a dildo or a person is completely moot. A man being jealous because his wife is more satisfied with her dildo than him counts as a netorare situation.

The reason your scenario isn't netorare is because it doesn't mention a party that would feel that James' corpse were stealing Bella from them (or that Bella were stealing James' corpse from them).

If the story is told from Bella's point of view it might be a netorase story, but only if Bella has actually gotten into a new relationship. Otherwise she isn't actually cheating on anybody.



On a tangent there actually is quite a lot of NTR in BADIK. In a lot of cases MC is stealing a woman's heart from another man, which makes them netori situations. However there is very little focus on how MC feels about the other guy while the woman's emotions get a lot of attention, so the situations are netorase rather than netori. And of course MC himself goes around boinking women left and right and even feels guilty about it at times, so the story is most firmly in the netorase category.

And the main route is of course all three at once. Bella feels guilty about stealing MC from Jill, MC feels guilty about breaking Jill's heart and Jill feels betrayed.

Netori is basically the 'Cheating' tag, right?

 

[Gunizz]

Thank you for continuing to lure him in. We'll do the rest now.

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OK let's do THE REST.

Well since you specified netorare rather than NTR, I'd say no.

You see while NTR most commonly refers netorare which is indeed the most controversial one, the abbreviation also refers to netori and netorase and now pretty much any story that deals with infidelity is called NTR.

Of course I rather doubt your assertion of post mortem erections being maintained all the way to mummification and wish that your necrophilic fantasies weren't so heavily romanticised, but strictly speaking sexual acts don't require penetration to be sexual and thus any sexual act with James' corpse would count.

Whether a corpse counts as a dildo or a person is completely moot. A man being jealous because his wife is more satisfied with her dildo than him counts as a netorare situation.

The reason your scenario isn't netorare is because it doesn't mention a party that would feel that James' corpse were stealing Bella from them (or that Bella were stealing James' corpse from them).

If the story is told from Bella's point of view it might be a netorase story, but only if Bella has actually gotten into a new relationship. Otherwise she isn't actually cheating on anybody.



On a tangent there actually is quite a lot of NTR in BADIK. In a lot of cases MC is stealing a woman's heart from another man, which makes them netori situations. However there is very little focus on how MC feels about the other guy while the woman's emotions get a lot of attention, so the situations are netorase rather than netori. And of course MC himself goes around boinking women left and right and even feels guilty about it at times, so the story is most firmly in the netorase category.

And the main route is of course all three at once. Bella feels guilty about stealing MC from Jill, MC feels guilty about breaking Jill's heart and Jill feels betrayed.

Of course the point of view is the MC's one, as usual. Fine, with a mummified body it wouldn’t be netorare. But WHAT IF he's a living mummy, like a zombie? Remember, Bella is actually into the mummy kink, it's not a coincidence that she chose that mummy costume for the party. So, having ascertained that Bella has a perverse passion for mummies, we could guess she probably masturbates looking at porn comics set in Ancient Egypt. Going back to the issue, while her mummy-zombie husband has been already cucked (or netorared) by MC, could also happen that MC is also netorared by an actively sexual mummy? No more a mere passive object like a dildo, but a real and almost living being. Would that be officially netorare?

Also, could Riona come back as a zombie and fall in love with Bella's husband? Would a zombie-Riona fucking a living-mummy count as netorare too? The situation is going to get very NTR-complicated, as you can notice.

And I've yet to count the appearance (EP 12 maybe?) of zombie Lynette probably eager for young cocks (incest patch?) after 19 years of cock-starvation.

 

[Bazsa4]

incest patch

Also, could Riona come back as a zombie and fall in love with Bella's husband?

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Netori is basically the 'Cheating' tag, right?

Netori netorase deals with the cheater's emotions. Typically the cheating tag is for those stories. But I have seen the cheating tag treated as interchangeable with NTR as a tag for any story that deals cheating from any perspective. Can't think of an example on f95 so they probably do it right, but I haven't shifted through everything under the tag so I can't say for sure. They are the kind of tags you have to be careful with.

EDIT: damn it mixed it up again. Netorase is from the cheater's point of view. Netori is from the "thief's" point of view. It's hard to keep track when they all get called NTR.

OK let's do THE REST.

Of course the point of view is the MC's one, as usual. Fine, with a mummified body it wouldn’t be netorare. But WHAT IF he's a living mummy, like a zombie? Remember, Bella is actually into the mummy kink, it's not a coincidence that she chose that mummy costume for the party. So, having ascertained that Bella has a perverse passion for mummies, we could guess she probably masturbates looking at porn comics set in Ancient Egypt. Going back to the issue, while her mummy-zombie husband has been already cucked (or netorared) by MC, could also happen that MC is also netorared by an actively sexual mummy? No more a mere passive object like a dildo, but a real and almost living being. Would that be officially netorare?

Also, could Riona come back as a zombie and fall in love with Bella's husband? Would a zombie-Riona fucking a living-mummy count as netorare too? The situation is going to get very NTR-complicated, as you can notice.

And I've yet to count the appearance (EP 12 maybe?) of zombie Lynette probably eager for young cocks (incest patch?) after 19 years of cock-starvation.

Oh go away will you. I already stole the spotlight on this one.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Do you play as Dik or Chick with Bella?

CHICK. I've toyed with the idea of doing a DIK run before, but I don't think there's enough unique dialogue and interactions to warrant the effort. Maybe on a manwhore run I could check it out.

 

[PickleSteve]

My dear friends, I have a philosophical doubt that torments me and that I want to share with you. If Bella's husband died with a copious erection, and Bella still consumes sexual acts with his mummified body, is this considered Netorare or can it be the equivalent of a simple sex toy such as a dildo or an anal plug?

Dude... I think you just invented the term 'necrorare'. No idea if this is in or out of order, but congratulations... this day will live on in infamy.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Do you play as Dik or Chick with Bella?

CHICK. I've toyed with the idea of doing a DIK run before, but I don't think there's enough unique dialogue and interactions to warrant the effort. Maybe on a manwhore run I could check it out.

Bella likes you more when you are a Chick, but certain DIK moments are absolute gold, so a carefully crafted Neutral is the right way.

Chick affinity MC will never see Merbella.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

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And so ends my Bella replay.
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It was kinda weird, taking my time going through the entire game again: I deleted the persistent files, so no skipping. Had to collect all the magazines and pack quest shit. I cheesed it with SanchoMod, but with him MIA I can only rely on the walkthrough if I need help for Episode 11 (thank Christ for that save fix of his). I think I heard some songs that were new to me too.

Bella's path is a slow burn, but it's worth it. I didn't learn anything new, or rediscover a lot, and yet it's extremely satisfying to see the relationship blossom. It isn't without it's share of obstacles, but I look forward to overcoming each and every one of them. A bumpy road, indeed.

If I had any complaints, it's that DPC relies a little too heavily on... I don't want to say Flanderization exactly, but sometimes he pushes the characters to be oversimplified. And by that I mean stuff like Butt-Gate, where Bella is incredibly annoyed at MC over the stupidest thing, or MC being overly obnoxious about watching porn (even though it led to a hot as fuck lewd). They're different people, at different stages in their lives, that already causes some friction, but it's typically much more natural than what I mentioned. Anyway I don't want to write an essay about the whole thing, and tomorrow I'll begin Sage's replay.

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Bella, you say. Why you dirty liar. I finally found proof that Madame Rose is your best girl.
I noticed she is the one taking charge by driving. Obvious who wears the pants in your loving relationship

 

[Lagunavii]

CHICK. I've toyed with the idea of doing a DIK run before, but I don't think there's enough unique dialogue and interactions to warrant the effort. Maybe on a manwhore run I could check it out.

Yeah, Ive never done DIK run myself, this is why I asked. I wanted to know if it would be worth doing one.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

Netori is basically the 'Cheating' tag, right?

Some see it as that, yeah. But in reality, it's not. It's when the MC forces a girl, who's already in a relationship, to have sex with him. Some also count when an LI is raped by someone else. In some cases, it's someone forcing the MC's girl, called netorare .

It's often confused with netorase, that is when the MC makes a LI have sex with someone else, for his own enjoyment.

Often, people just take them both together with cheating and a potential LI having sex with anybody else, and put it all under NTR. Some go so far as putting any girl having a boyfriend or ever having sex, also as NTR.

 

[Hopet]

I just finished episode 10 and I see that the story is not finished, or I thought wrong!? Are more episodes for season 3 in the works or season 4?

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Bella likes you more when you are a Chick, but certain DIK moments are absolute gold, so a carefully crafted Neutral is the right way.

Chick affinity MC will never see Merbella.

It's also a question of what's best for the relationship. Not that DIK MC is a terrible person, but she can trust and respect CHICK MC more. And her being CHICK automatically makes me want to be good for her

Bella, you say. Why you dirty liar. I finally found proof that Madame Rose is your best girl.
I noticed she is the one taking charge by driving. Obvious who wears the pants in your loving relationship

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I will not tolerate this outrageous lie

 

[Maccabbee]

I just finished episode 10 and I see that the story is not finished, or I thought wrong!? Are more episodes for season 3 in the works or season 4?

Yes, I believe two more chapters and an epilogue are planned, but don't quote me on that. My memory is for shit lately...

 

[Crusader of Romance]

I just finished episode 10 and I see that the story is not finished, or I thought wrong!? Are more episodes for season 3 in the works or season 4?

2 more episodes are planned for season 3. Episode 11 is expected to be released around the beginning of March, Episode 12 is expected sometime in 2026.
Season 4 will then be the finale for the game.

 

[Lagunavii]

Some see it as that, yeah. But in reality, it's not. It's when the MC forces a girl, who's already in a relationship, to have sex with him. Some also count when an LI is raped by someone else.

It's often confused with netorase, that is when the MC makes a LI have sex with someone else, for his own enjoyment.

Often, people just take them both together with cheating and a potential LI having sex with anybody else, and put it all under NTR. Some go so far as putting any girl having a boyfriend or ever having sex, also as NTR.

These terms have become so intertwined and mishandled over the years that they've practically merged into one here in the West and as a result, NTR covers pretty much anything in regards to your partner sleeping with others, whether that be with permission or without.

the jist is this though

Netorare - is when the MC's partner is "stolen" from them, usually, there is some sort of blackmail involved and the lover is reluctant at the start. It gets a bit of Stockholm syndrome and the partner is seduced and eventually accepts she likes the other guy better. its supposed to invoke a sense of loss, anguish, jealousy, betrayal

Netorase - this is the concesual one. think swinging, or hot wifing and the likes.

Netori - this is when the MC himself/herself actively seeks to sleep with someone already in a relationship

Ultimately they all involve someone sleeping with someone who isn't their partner, but the actual definitions make them very different

 

[robrize2169]

mc's response to Sage's criticism should be, well at least you are now fucking an actual heterosexual male with a big dick as opposed to a juicebox faggot with a tiny peepee. she should be over the moon at his performance..

 

[MiltonPowers]

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Now you know how I feel. KARAMBA does it to me almost daily.

Dude... I think you just invented the term 'necrorare'. No idea if this is in or out of order, but congratulations... this day will live on in infamy.

Don't encourage him. He needs no encouragement.

 

[MasterHoft]

Dik is that you