VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[TuckeredOut]

The 5 things I'm most looking forward to in ep11.
1) Dealing with the traitor. What if Beth, who was caught by Leon, says that DIK gave her the photo, but doesn't know who? Then there will be a witch hunt and MC will be under suspicion, especially if he let the preps into the party in ep9. I'm waiting for the traitor story to develop, it's interesting.

A part of me thinks that the DIK posters are unrelated to everything else going on, and that they're just the dorm girls way of getting revenge on the DIKs for the number of walk of shame songs that they've endured.

 

[diolo]

What do y'all think bella's hiding in her room? Her dead husband perhaps she murdered?

the developer of the game ... without a computer in the room ... which is why the next update will take some time

 

[Lagunavii]

Maya did try to bully Josy out of joining the hots, she is pretty judgemental of Josy season one really fast to think the worse of Josy just to name two

Neither of which borders on Patrick Levels of Abuse. - However, Maya has seen the HOTs for what they are at this point, or Rather Quinn, she can't stand the woman at this point and to be fair Quinn is not too keen on her either. If Josy were to join the HOTs it just be another potential block in their relationship. Yeah, she could have been nicer to her about it or gone about it in a different way, but in her mind, she's losing the battle that Blue Milk has touched upon.

To be fair, Josy and Maya don't really interact in season up until episode 3, and by that time she thought it was over. heck they both do. People do generally get hostile at the end of the relationship, there was also the fact that josy went radio silent due to the fact she got her phone took off her? Why because she had the MC potentially balls deep in her.

Honestly they are both as bad as each other - and neither are as bad as Patrick

 

[Blue Milk]

What do y'all think bella's hiding in her room? Her dead husband perhaps she murdered?

All of his things he left behind.

A part of me thinks that the DIK posters are unrelated to everything else going on, and that they're just the dorm girls way of getting revenge on the DIKs for the number of walk of shame songs that they've endured.

Same here. It's just a side plot with no links to main stuff.

 

[Darkwen the Josy lover]

Do you realise how silly that is? How many stories, games, films, TV shows, etc, do you know of that show and tell you every single thing the characters get up to when not on screen? Because I'll tell you right now, they don't do that. You might get some expositional dialogue about off-screen stuff, but it's not a necessity nor a guarantee in any story to be spoon-fed this kind of info as you seem to think should happen. You only assume they don't spend any time together because you want that to be the case since that fits into your narrative and you take any lack of confirmaition as proof of your narrative when it isn't. We don't know for sure in the other direction either, but at least we're not denying the truth of their relationship situation and the feelings they have for each other like you are, so us assuming they are spending some time together off-screen is at least more reality-based than your view.



Eh, no, because their relationship is not "poor" on the throuple, it's in a better state with him, and if they spend time together unseen on that, that's a good thing. There you go again with the alternate reality malarkey.



In Ep 6 it was relevant to show Maya's insecurities about being with a guy and being part of this new, unconventional relationship. In Ep 8 it was relevant to show them discussing some things and clearing the air a bit. After that, there hasn't been, imo, anything we needed to see of them when alone together that's relevant to the throuple overall or the MC. If there is, we would see it, but a scene with them that's just them hanging out, being intimate, etc, that doesn't relate back to the relationship overall is not necessary.



It's not an "easy route" when someone's Dad is literally threatening their entire future over their relationship and they're having a hard time finding a way out of the predicament. It's an apparently serious threat and their caution is warranted albeit difficult to deal with. Not to mention the fact that Maya's probably worried Patrick could cut her off from seeing her Mom and she wouldn't want that and he might even take it out on Derek too. There's a lot for stake for her here and they both know it, that's why it's so difficult for them.

There is a saying, "love conquers all", but it can still be a difficult road to get there. It's not as easy as saying, "I choose you", in a relationship that faces some adversity and it's all flowers and rainbows after that. At the end of the road, sure, love may conquer and things are alright, but it's not always an easy road to travel and bumps can appear that you either overcome or trip you up.

Right now, Maya's caught in a position where she potentially has a lot to lose - Josy, college, inheriting massive debt, access to her dying Mom - because of her Dad's threat, and as much as she loves Josy, which she does, it's hard for her see a way out of all this where things work out and she doesn't lose all this. That's perfectly understandable to feel like, as much you love someone, you don't want to lose other things that are also important to you. That's what makes it so difficult for her to just choose Josy and why she can't choose the opposite because both choices hurt her. Josy, meanwhile, also knows what's at stake for Maya and wouldn't want to see someone she loves, which she does, get hurt or otherwise face serious issues over this. She's caught between wanting to be with Maya, not wanting to hurt Maya, but also wanting a less stressful relationship. That's why she "doesn't know" what she'll do if things gor wrong at the dinner because she's conflicted between all these things.

So Patrick and his threat IS the wedge that's causing issues, that really can't be denied even though you are trying desperately to say that it isn't because you can't handle the truth of the situation and want to live in your own version of the narrative.

This is at the where we just saying the same thing over and over. Sorry but your wrong here. Your a big throuple fan great but your doing what your excusing me of doing. Josy and Maya problem are far deeper then Patrick they no longer love each the way they did, maybe it can save if mc balance with both girls but they are headed to a breakup throuple or not. It is very silly to think it not important to show them together I stand by if we didn't see or hear about it then it didn't happen

 

[Blue Milk]

This is at the where we just saying the same thing over and over. Sorry but your wrong here. Your a big throuple fan great but your doing what your excusing me of doing. Josy and Maya problem are far deeper then Patrick they no longer love each the way they did, maybe it can save if mc balance with both girls but they are headed to a breakup throuple or not. It is very silly to think it not important to show them together I stand by if we didn't see or hear about it then it didn't happen

In my experience, solo stans are the most blinkered because they want to believe there is no love there because it makes themselves feel better about the potential future of a solo path and throuple fans have a more balanced and objective view because they see the whole picture and not just what they want to see.

Have fun living in cloud cuckoo land, boyo. I hope the air is fresh up there but don't get too much higher on the supply than you already are

 

[mike12013]

Yes, it's all friendly banter, etc., but it makes it a hard to follow thread if you're just interested in news and discussion about the game.

Yeah i just check the reddit thread for status updates, I don't even bother trying to find it on here

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Fighting hard a lot at the moment as its been pointed out, some might say successfully, over the last few days that Josy has no real story.

Sad but true. Mr. Perfectionist hasn't written anything for her other than "Maya's DLC"

Maya did try to bully Josy out of joining the hots, she is pretty judgemental of Josy season one really fast to think the worse of Josy just to name two

I said, I say and I will say: Josy should have given Maya emotional support at that moment and been with her girlfriend, and not "I WANT TO BE WITH HOTS!" That would have been right.

From what I've seen, this guy tends to make a lot of weird statemtents that aren't much based in reality, so is it really much of a surprise they've done it again?

But, if I were to hazard a guess, it's probably that moment at the start of Ep 7 because everyone usually points to that even though I think it's a perfectly understandable emotional reaction. I mean, Maya's feeling like the HOTs just humiliated both of them by lying to them about the tuition, but mostly that her hopes at getting out from Patrick's control have been dashed, and then her gf still says she wants to join that sorority. So when Josy says that, it feels like a betrayal, it feels like Josy doesn't have her back, and nobody wants or would like to feel that about their partner, so her reaction is understandable, imo, and definitely nowhere close to Patrick levels of abuse. That's a crazy thing to say.

That's right, she shouldn't have chosen herself at that moment and waited a bit. Maya is vulnerable in moments of emotional crises and she needs a "shoulder".
I've known Darkven for a long time and I'm okay with him, I just wanted to hear his version.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Josy and Maya problem are far deeper then Patrick they no longer love each the way they did

So that's how it is...
And how did you know that they no longer love each other?
Did they tell you themselves?
I'm sorry, but I doubt it.
So this is just your opinion.

 

[Darkwen the Josy lover]

Neither of which borders on Patrick Levels of Abuse. - However, Maya has seen the HOTs for what they are at this point, or Rather Quinn, she can't stand the woman at this point and to be fair Quinn is not too keen on her either. If Josy were to join the HOTs it just be another potential block in their relationship. Yeah, she could have been nicer to her about it or gone about it in a different way, but in her mind, she's losing the battle that Blue Milk has touched upon.

To be fair, Josy and Maya don't really interact in season up until episode 3, and by that time she thought it was over. heck they both do. People do generally get hostile at the end of the relationship, there was also the fact that josy went radio silent due to the fact she got her phone took off her? Why because she had the MC potentially balls deep in her.

Honestly they are both as bad as each other - and neither are as bad as Patrick

What Maya did is far worse she never gave Josy a chance she just assume the worse of her. Josy had sex with MC but at least she showed cared about Maya. Something Maya never did with Josy she doesn't give a shit about her just whining about her life

 

[Blue Milk]

When your partner doesn't side with you, especially at such a low and vulnerable moment, it hurts and feels like betrayal.

Maya had an emotional reaction to what Josy said as anyone would when they feel hurt by their partner. It's understandable and in no way close to "abuse".

 

[Darkwen the Josy lover]

So that's how it is...
And how did you know that they no longer love each other?
Did they tell you themselves?
I'm sorry, but I doubt it.
So this is just your opinion.

It is just my opinion your right about that but it is based on what is shown in game it pretty clear they prefer MC over the other girl. Maybe I read it wrong but after everything I seen in the game this is what makes the most sense regardless of how I feel

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

What do y'all think bella's hiding in her room? Her dead husband perhaps she murdered?

Depends on exactly what year the game happens, but I'd say Bella is old enough that photo albums were still a thing when she was a teenager. Pictures of her and James, of her and Lana, of her and Lynette of course etc.

 

[Nikko_]

Maya is Abusive towards Josy - I definitely missed that comment.

The only indication for abuse I'd say could be the "mean messages" that Josy mentions when they reunite. But we don't know the contents of said "mean posts", so calling Maya abusive is a stretch.
The way I see it, Maya is just a lot more selfish/self-centered. Josy gives more into their relationship, with little return. And while Maya attitude is somewhat excused by her situation, One has to ask: for how long is it excusable? Cause that shit has been going for a while. Simply put, Josy deserves better form her partner.
That aside, I don't like Maya cause she lies to the MC and cause at times she is hypocritical.

 

[Darkwen the Josy lover]

Sad but true. Mr. Perfectionist hasn't written anything for her other than "Maya's DLC"

I said, I say and I will say: Josy should have given Maya emotional support at that moment and been with her girlfriend, and not "I WANT TO BE WITH HOTS!" That would have been right.

That's right, she shouldn't have chosen herself at that moment and waited a bit. Maya is vulnerable in moments of emotional crises and she needs a "shoulder".
I've known Darkven for a long time and I'm okay with him, I just wanted to hear his version.

Maya is the one in the wrong here it very selfish of Maya to want Josy to give up her dreams just to make her feel better that's not love, it control. The Hot's aren't bad just what Quinn did was wrong Josy wanting to join them isn't her being unsupported or selfish MC even says the same thing. Maya should put her hurt pride aside and support Josy for once

 

[L1m1tl3ss]

Pictures of her and James, of her and Lana, of her and Lynette of course etc.

View attachment you're insane.mp4

 

[Lagunavii]

Sad but true. Mr. Perfectionist hasn't written anything for her other than "Maya's DLC"

I said something similar last night, Calling her essentially a crutch for Maya's story - cause obviously without her there's no same sex relationship drama that drives Maya's and therefore the main plot forward.

Ultimately, because Josy is front-ended into the story, that is to say, we know most if not all the important shit about her by chapter two and she's also practically in Love with the MC by here too. By the time she gets to B&R her character has nowhere to go now, whereas Sage has the breakup, the slow falling for MC, her true family reveal. Jill has the blackmail, her family reveal, the slowly falling in love with MC, Bella again the slowly falling for the MC, the mystery with her family, etc

All the others have yet to fall for the MC, and that's their story going forward. Josy is already there, so there's nothing to tell. She's a convenient plot device to allow Patrick to do a shady loan, which allows Maya to try and join the Hots for tuition, which allows Sage to break the bad news, which allows Maya to go to Burke and "expose" the restaurant.

I'm not saying she is not important, it could be argued she's the entire driving force for the whole thing, but once we set off on that journey, she's not really needed anymore other than motivation for Maya to keep going.

 

[Blue Milk]

Maybe I read it wrong

Understatement of the century

When the majority seem to recognise that their interest in the MC is a direct result of the separation caused by Patrick's threat making them emotionally vulnerable to someone else's advances despite still having feelings of love and want of their current partner, I think I go with the majority on this one since that's what's most clearly obvious to just about everyone.

Maya is the one in the wrong here it very selfish of Maya to want Josy to give up her dreams just to make her feel better that's not love, it control. The Hot's aren't bad just what Quinn did was wrong Josy wanting to join them isn't her being unsupported or selfish MC even says the same thing. Maya should put her hurt pride aside and support Josy for once

You really expect Maya, after feeling humiliated and having her hopes dashed to just be like, "Yeah, that's cool Josy. I'm OK with you joining a sorority that played us for fools and ruined our chances to be together without my Dad breathing down our necks. Thank you so much for telling me this when I'm still massively hurt and depressed about what just happened"?

Gimme a break

 

[JillybeanEnjoyer]

Macky, you're no longer invited to our wedding. I'm replacing your seat in the very back with the pegging guy

Baz catching strays.

 

[Darkwen the Josy lover]

In my experience, solo stans are the most blinkered because they want to believe there is no love there because it makes themselves feel better about the potential future of a solo path and throuple fans have a more balanced and objective view because they see the whole picture and not just what they want to see.

Have fun living in cloud cuckoo land, boyo. I hope the air is fresh up there but don't get too much higher on the supply than you already are

I admit I could be wrong, but I think Josy and Maya don't love each other the way they use to because that is what the game shows which is why I believe in solo happening, could there be a way to keep it going maybe but for now there every reason to believe in break up happening.
In my experience people are sometimes guilty of what they accuse you of that seems to be case here. but no hard feelings