VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[StarWulf]

Tybalt and the Jocks are just for entertainment. The real villains are "evil" Tommy and Quinn. We just don't know how far they will go, but prostitution and dealing with steroids and drugs like heroin is crossing red lines.
However there is still hope that they may change and abandon there evil doings before they go to jail and ruin their lifes.

Tommy can be a pain in the ass for DIK pledges while Quinn is the equivalent for HOT pledges. I expect many conflicts for mc, Maya and Josy with them in the next episode.

Whole heartily disagree. Tybalt is the true villain, along with Dumb and Dumber, mixed in with a person we don't know yet.

Tommy is more of a dick and is about to be a smear (Along with a batting to the face with our bat) and Quinn, while chaotic, disruptive of boners, and certain some various potential legal issues on hoeing (Though we don't truly know the legal laws of this foreign land so), aren't really villains.

 

[michael1984]

I mean its hazing so its pretty normal for hazing to get a bit out of control even in real life that happends so i dont feel like Tommy or Quinn are doing anything crazy to the pledges that is shockingly bad.

As for steroids and drugs and the (prostitution) I mean that's in every college if u wanna admit it or not

So its highly doubtfull that something like jail or worse will happen in this badik game simply caus the AL game already had harsh remarks on it

DPC wont make that same mistake twice in a row

The best thing DPC could have done is removed that drugs and sex all together so we would have nothing to worry or complain about

 

[pilapila3]

I already buyed a few fire extinguishers myself just in case bro

As long as I get my hands on THE jacket I do not care. We all knew there will be drama and we still played the game. I guess we accepted the fate the very moment we fired it up.

 

[StarWulf]

DPC wont make that same mistake twice in a row

Never know... We will have to wait and see. If he does, send Leah and Raccoons.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Tybalt and the Jocks are just for entertainment. The real villains are "evil" Tommy and Quinn. We just don't know how far they will go, but prostitution and dealing with steroids and drugs like heroin is crossing red lines.
However there is still hope that they may change and abandon there evil doings before they go to jail and ruin their lifes.

Neither of them, even in quotation marks, are evil. Tommy buys drugs from Quinn and has probably also bought things from her "menu", and Quinn is a wild girl who is doing these illicit things to keep the HOTs afloat, but neither have truly evil intentions, they're kinda just assholes who don't think seriously about their actions.

Quinn feels like she's being built up to take a heavy fall at some point that will teach her the error of her ways and probably see her have a redemption arc with the help of the MC.

 

[Mormont]

The best thing DPC could have done is removed that drugs and sex all together so we would have nothing to worry or complain about

The drugs are really my only main concern anything could happen there I've always though maybe an accidential overdose or something like that, but to be truthful I'm really concerned about Arieth and her crabs

 

[StarWulf]

The drugs are really my only main concern anything could happen there I've always though maybe an accidential overdose or something like that, but to be truthful I'm really concerned about Arieth and her crabs

Accidental OD: Tommy. Feels like it is going to happen. And we will have to be there for Softie One.

As for crabs, easy cure: Cream Cheese, Ritz, and Cocktail Sauce.

 

[Deleted member 15555]

The drugs are really my only main concern anything could happen there I've always though maybe an accidential overdose or something like that, but to be truthful I'm really concerned about Arieth and her crabs

Yeah let's see what girls we have to avoid so we don't get it......because that will probably be another way to piss off people depending on who has it....... just think how all those that love Quinn will cry if she ended up having it and infect the mc lol
I know at least my chick mc is safe

 

[Tumai]

I'm telling yall they are friends

Spoiler: EP 4 DIK's Party

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... but if one is texting and the other is talking, that would actually mean they are NOT in the same conversation, no?

 

[ename144]

... but if one is texting and the other is talking, that would actually mean they are NOT in the same conversation, no?

Well duh, both of those are conversations with the MC. I think Jill Ivory's point was that the girls were both referring to the same upcoming meeting.

It's an interesting idea I hadn't considered before. It still feels like a stretch, especially given what Sage says the next day at the car wash, but I guess it's possible.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

I gues some people are still too shook up from AL I get it tho I feel the same way after that game...
But DPC already had a lot of backlash over that ending .. So its highly doubtfull that he will ruin his gaming future with doing the same thing here...
Will it be some drama sure … will it be shocking probally… But as crazy as AL was I doubt it

AL is not a bad game. The full story with all the twists and revelations actually would make a good script for a Hollywood movie.

The problem with AL is that it started as a lighthearted Dating Sim where mc has opportunities to have sex with different girls. After some episodes the topics became darker (death, drugs, violence) and there where more consequences, blocking further progress with the main LIs if mc was dating other girls. And then everything turned into a psycho thriller type nightmare. So from start to end AL completely changed target audience. AL is a good choice if you look for a psycho thriller game with some sex scenes, but it is the completely wrong choice for people who look for a lighthearted sex and romance VN. Having to choose between M and M is no fun, accompanying your best friend on his bucket list tour neither.

Since the story of AL in 2020 is widely known, adding some of the dark twists to BaDIK would hardly work since players will recognize the pattern and there won't be any surprise but mostly rejection.

Spoiler: Maya & Josy and AL

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[Le Pew]

AL is not a bad game. The full story with all the twists and revelations actually would make a good script for a Hollywood movie.

The problem with AL is that it started as a lighthearted Dating Sim where mc has opportunities to have sex with different girls. After some episodes the topics became darker (death, drugs, violence) and there where more consequences, blocking further progress with the main LIs if mc was dating other girls. And then everything turned into a psycho thriller type nightmare. So from start to end AL completely changed target audience. AL is a good choice if you look for a psycho thriller game with some sex scenes, but it is the completely wrong choice for people who look for a lighthearted sex and romance VN. Having to choose between M and M is no fun, accompanying your best friend on his bucket list tour neither.

Since the story of AL in 2020 is widely known, adding some of the dark twists to BaDIK would hardly work since players will recognize the pattern and there won't be any surprise but mostly rejection.

AL contains the blueprint for mc+Maya+Josy threesome, but I really hope that BaDIK doesn't follow AL after choosing "more than friends". (Maybe I missed a scene but) the mc+M+M relationship in AL was strange and disappointing. A man and two women end together in a relationship, they live in the same house, sleep in the same bed, but they don't have sex together. Instead they agree to start seperate dating series where the mc dates one of them or the other. One of the scenes in AL where mc dates Megan with dinner and sex in a hotel room is very similar to the scene in BaDIK where mc dates Josy at home (first college weekend, dinner and sex in her parent's bedroom), except for the ending of the scene. BaDIK's start with Maya and Josy being a lesbian couple is a much better start than M+M just being BFFs without sexual interest in each other.

TL;DR

 

[StarWulf]

IN SHORT: AL had good points but piss poor ending. So long as the Cake One doesn't fuck it up and piss off his fans again, he will be safe.

 

[michael1984]

Nobody said AL is a bad game in fact most people enjoyed the game rite until that fiery ending

But that brings me back to the point that even tho badik shows signs off getting a bad ending like AL

Just don't make sense in the long run why do the same trick rite after the first trick

But anyways onward to a better topic Jill was probally gonna visit Bella in that texting scene and then she stumbles onto Cathy being there airing hher heart out after that leaked pic...

Sage probally off to either the Jocks or to the Tybalt mansion the way she was dressed I am almost certain its for the Tybalt party

 

[Darkmetal]

Quinn feels like she's being built up to take a heavy fall at some point that will teach her the error of her ways and probably see her have a redemption arc with the help of the MC.

A redemption arc for Quinn would be boring and very cliche IMO.

For those that dislike her now, it really isn't going to do anything for them, while for those that do like her, turning her into just "another nice girl" isn't something they'd want. There's room for a Viconia, Dark-Side Bastila, Morrigan in the game (hopefully).

IIRC, name88 - King of Hearts wants to take her to a S.American Island where she will run a drug cartel while pumping out babies. For me, I've stated that I want her to be my Lady Macbeth for my 100% DIK affinity B&R take-over ending.

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[StarWulf]

A redemption arc for Quinn would be boring and very cliche IMO.

For those that dislike her now, it really isn't going to do anything for them, while for those that do like her, turning her into just "another nice girl" isn't something they'd want. There's room for a Viconia, Dark-Side Bastila, Morrigan in the game (hopefully).

IIRC, name88 - King of Hearts wants to take her to a S.American Island where she will run a drug cartel while pumping out babies.

1. Everyone can be redeemed given the chance, let alone change.
2. Morrigan was best softie, along side Nightingale. If only we could bang all three.
3. How can one have babies with a computer?

 

[ename144]

A redemption arc for Quinn would be boring and very cliche IMO.

For those that dislike her now, it really isn't going to do anything for them, while for those that do like her, turning her into just "another nice girl" isn't something they'd want. There's room for a Viconia, Dark-Side Bastila, Morrigan in the game (hopefully).

Hang on, didn't Viconia and Bastilla both get redemption options?

That said, I don't think 'redemption' for Quinn would mean she becomes a CHICKish character. I think it means she would remain her brash self, just with a touch more empathy and a lot less stupid decision making.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

TL;DR

What is the point in posting "TL;DR"s? (too long, didn't read)

 

[faded.blue]

AL is not a bad game. The full story with all the twists and revelations actually would make a good script for a Hollywood movie.

The problem with AL is that it started as a lighthearted Dating Sim where mc has opportunities to have sex with different girls. After some episodes the topics became darker (death, drugs, violence) and there where more consequences, blocking further progress with the main LIs if mc was dating other girls. And then everything turned into a psycho thriller type nightmare. So from start to end AL completely changed target audience. AL is a good choice if you look for a psycho thriller game with some sex scenes, but it is the completely wrong choice for people who look for a lighthearted sex and romance VN. Having to choose between M and M is no fun, accompanying your best friend on his bucket list tour neither.

Since the story of AL in 2020 is widely known, adding some of the dark twists to BaDIK would hardly work since players will recognize the pattern and there won't be any surprise but mostly rejection.

AL contains the blueprint for mc+Maya+Josy threesome, but I really hope that BaDIK doesn't follow AL after choosing "more than friends". (Maybe I missed a scene but) the mc+M+M relationship in AL was strange and disappointing. A man and two women end together in a relationship, they live in the same house, sleep in the same bed, but they don't have sex together. Instead they agree to start seperate dating series where the mc dates one of them or the other. One of the scenes in AL where mc dates Megan with dinner and sex in a hotel room is very similar to the scene in BaDIK where mc dates Josy at home (first college weekend, dinner and sex in her parent's bedroom), except for the ending of the scene. However BaDIK's start with Maya and Josy being a lesbian couple is a much better start than M+M just being BFFs without sexual interest in each other.

My takeaway is that don't do M+F+F just because "oh harem is unrealistic but I know you want a harem". It has to be an actual triangle with special dynamic rather than two separate and unrelated strings (three in this case). We have much more episodes this time though, so I'm confident it'll be well developed. And then, I think dark plot is fine, but killing off a major love interest is really..too much of a transition. The dev really has a thing for this trope, though. When MC discovered that Josy and Maya were a couple, the narration is imo quite melodramatic.

 

[Darkmetal]

1. Everyone can be redeemed given the chance, let alone change.

It's not a question of can but a question of whether actual Quinn fans want one or not. Considering she isn't a LI, I seriously doubt that she'll get two completely different character arcs so it's going to be one or the other.

3. How can one have babies with a computer?

When, if ever, DPC adds a pregnancy tag to the game of course but for details of Name 88's plan, I'll let him elaborate himself.