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Ah see and he strikes me as very much an ass kisser, manipulator. He doesn't strike me as a stand up make shit happen type. Hell he runs from his wife when he comes home and she's in the bathroom remember? Those aren't the actions of a stand up guy. Jade wears the pants in that family so tell me why all of a sudden you think Stephen is a "man"? He's chasing after young girl students who prostitute themselves to pay for college and you think all of a sudden he's near the top of the food chain?

He's a bitch
Does Jade wear the pants in that family? Stephen failed to call her bluff on two occasions, but he also continues to cheat on her. And Jade was the one who goes off on a tirade about how he gets more respect than he deserves. To me, it feels like both of them feel a messy divorce is more trouble than it is worth, so they generally keep it civil in public and know not to push the other too hard. If Stephen were really her bitch she could do something more than throw photos at him when he keeps sleeping around.

I'm certainly not defending Stephen's character, the guy's a creep. But I don't think he's what Sage is describing.
 
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I still think he's gay. Otherwise how could he be so emotionally and physically dead to Sage? I find it extremely unlikely that he's attracted to women if he doesn't react at all with Sage in front of him basically begging for intimacy. Just cause they talk about panties doesn't mean we can't be talking about a guy, like I said a while ago, men can wear lacy "women's" underwear.
I've always assumed he was gay, I thought those panties she found were probably his? I think that's we he was so nervous when he found out someone was in the locker room when he was on the phone? If was just nailing some side chick? I don't think he'd have that kind of look he had.
 

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Does Jade wear the pants in that family? Stephen failed to call her bluff on two occasions, but he also continues to cheat on her. And Jade was the one who goes off on a tirade about how he gets more respect than he deserves. To me, it feels like both of them feel a messy divorce is more trouble than it is worth, so they generally keep it civil in public and know not to push the other too hard. If Stephen were really her bitch she could do something more than throw photos at him when he keeps sleeping around.

I'm certainly not defending Stephen's character, the guy's a creep. But I don't think he's what Sage is describing.
She never mentions he gets more respect than he deserves, she say's he bought his degree and she earned hers. Totally not the same thing. The only time we see Stephen in a position of power is when he is talking down to a student namely Chad. As far as being a cheater maybe he sleeps with the girls so he can be dominant for once. Who says she was bluffing? From the sound of the argument between Jade/Stephen, Stephen needed a prenup not Jade. Sounds like Jade married into a rich family, not saying she wasn't well off but........ Stephen sounds like he's whining the whole time their arguing through the bathroom door. "Come on Honey, I've been trying......" and then he literally leaves his own house because Jade tells him to.
 

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She never mentions he gets more respect than he deserves, she say's he bought his degree and she earned hers. Totally not the same thing. The only time we see Stephen in a position of power is when he is talking down to a student namely Chad. As far as being a cheater maybe he sleeps with the girls so he can be dominant for once. Who says she was bluffing? From the sound of the argument between Jade/Stephen, Stephen needed a prenup not Jade. Sounds like Jade married into a rich family, not saying she wasn't well off but........ Stephen sounds like he's whining the whole time their arguing through the bathroom door. "Come on Honey, I've been trying......" and then he literally leaves his own house because Jade tells him to.
But by the same token Stephen gets what he wants (sexy students), and Jade doesn't. So I'm not sure why you chalk this up as a win for Jade.

I agree Stephen is more interested in placating Jade than she she is in placating him, but I think that says more about their individual desires than it does about the power dynamics.

At what point do we see RHG looking for new business? I must have missed that part. We see him talking about a trip, reminiscing about paintings and mention looking for his daughter. Nor do we see him kissing anyone's ass? Like I said I think y'all are making assumptions that you have 0% data for.
I mean RHG does have a list of people he wants to chat with, and tries to get himself invited to a private retreat with two (presumably) rich businessmen. That is in line with what I would expect someone looking to ingratiate himself with powerful people to do. It's certainly more "looking for business" or "kissing ass" than we see Stephen do.

Unless... that's it! Mona is very ticklish and Stephen's beard was just too much for her! It's all starting to fit together now!!
 
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I don't think it will matter either way. Might just be a slight dialogue difference at some point, but I don't think it will have any major impact in terms of a pursuable relationship. Quinn's just going to keep doing what she's been doing, and then when it all inevitably goes wrong we'll get probably have an option to help her or not that will likely be based on if you performed certain actions like getting her number in ep 1, fucking her in ep 4, etc.

She could, however, be to this story what Ana was to AL; the one you end up with by default if you don't get any of the main LIs and did certain things like fuck her and help her out later.
Well Quinn doesn't have any RP that you can build up and you can also miss that conversation with Sage if you can't stay with her or choose to stay with Derek or Bella, so it doesn't seem like it's anything major if it can be missed so easily.

If there comes a time where Quinn does seem something really crazy that she knows will affect the MC negatively and he confronts her about it, then there might be some dialogue like, "I thought you liked me/I was starting to like you. How could you do this to me?", if you had that conversation with Sage, but probably not much more than that.
I was leaning towards Zoey but your theory is also plausible. In the Zoey scenario, MC could have finished / drop-out of college single and move away to the place where Zoey is and meet her and rekindle their relationship. In the Quinn scenario it might happen if MC is the one who "saves" her. If you see the OP banner, it does have have Quinn as the 6th person.

He seems the type of Dad that will tease his kid no matter what age they are he seemed pretty eccentric and most likely why Sage was avoiding him. From what we saw of him he seemed like a stand-up kind of guy you could have a laugh and beer with while Sage is shouting Daaaaad stop embarrassing me so I hope we get to see the 3 of them in a scene together in the near future.
Imagine if he gets to meet MC and Derek together, "Hey, aren't you that tea fella?"
 
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From what you guys are talking about, it sounds like Stephen is what Tybalt is going to grow up to be like. I hate to see Jill being the future Jade.
 

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I was leaning towards Zoey but your theory is also plausible. In the Zoey scenario, MC could have finished / drop-out of college single and move away to the place where Zoey was and met her and rekindle their relationship. In the Quinn scenario it might happen if MC is the one who "saves" her. If you see the OP banner, it does have have Quinn as the 6th person.
And AL has Leah, Ana, and the 2 college girls in the banner but only 3 of them are pursuable as LIs and Ana is the default if the MC fucks her and the other LIs leave the MC. So Quinn could very well be that default character if the MC doesn't get with any of the main LIs but does do something(s) with her.
 

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From what you guys are talking about, it sounds like Stephen is what Tybalt is going to grow up to be like. I hate to see Jill being the future Jade.
I don't think Jill is much like Jade. I'm also not sure Tybalt is much like Stephen. It may be another way to emphasize Tybalt's "spoiled child" nature, but the notorious watermelon is significantly tamer than Quinn's services.

Tybalt would be a terrible husband for Jill, though, that's clear.
 

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But by the same token Stephen gets what he wants (sexy students), and Jade doesn't. So I'm not sure why you chalk this up as a win for Jade.

I agree Stephen is more interested in placating Jade than she she is in placating him, but I think that says more about their individual desires than it does about the power dynamics.

I mean RHG does have a list of people he wants to chat with, and tries to get himself invited to a private retreat with two (presumably) rich businessmen. That is in line with what I would expect someone looking to ingratiate himself with powerful people to do. It's certainly more "looking for business" or "kissing ass" than we see Stephen do.

Unless... that's it! Mona is very ticklish and Stephen's beard was just too much for her! It's all starting to fit together now!!
Yeah he pays for them or he pays/erases their college debts in exchange for sex. How does that make it "he gets what he wants"?

Plain and simple that gives Jade the power because Stephen is afraid of what happens if they get a divorce.

I know when I go back to High School Reunions there is a list of people I want to talk to, why would an annual alumni party be any different? He's rich too. Y'all are assuming he's new money based off 0% evidence. All we know is that the college kids consider him eccentric. We don't see either of them do any ass kissing or looking for business. The RHG is in what 2 brief scenes and Stephen is in 2 brief scenes, neither one of those two scenes show any ass kissing or looking for business and yet RHG is Sage's Dad because what? OH THATS RIGHT. They both got red hair.
 
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And AL has Leah, Ana, and the 2 college girls in the banner but only 3 of them are pursuable as LIs and Ana is the default if the MC fucks her and the other LIs leave the MC. So Quinn could very well be that default character if the MC doesn't get with any of the main LIs but does do something(s) with her.
The only time you really get to interact with Quinn actively are the steal lingerie event, buying from her restaurant, the Sage path where you barged into her room, and the rooftop event. Other non-direct involvements include ratting her out to Maya, telling Sage how you feel about Quinn. I wonder if all these will be taken into account?
 

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I still think he's gay. Otherwise how could he be so emotionally and physically dead to Sage? I find it extremely unlikely that he's attracted to women if he doesn't react at all with Sage in front of him basically begging for intimacy. Just cause they talk about panties doesn't mean we can't be talking about a guy, like I said a while ago, men can wear lacy "women's" underwear.
The way he treats Sage, the theory that he is gay gains a lot of strength. Melanie's theory is weak because she is in the gym when Chad has the call, but it does not imply anything because she was also able to go to the women's locker room when she was not on stage. Or it could be that Melanie wants to dethrone Sage from the presidency and telling Chad about the MC's love affair with Sage he can help her take over the presidency or help Quinn. It could also be that he has something against her and that explains the way he behaves towards her. Maybe there was some deception on Sage's part before the MC, but I don't believe it because of what she says in episode 3 "if he can do it because I can't" or something similar.
 

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I don't think Jill is much like Jade. I'm also not sure Tybalt is much like Stephen. It may be another way to emphasize Tybalt's "spoiled child" nature, but the notorious watermelon is significantly tamer than Quinn's services.

Tybalt would be a terrible husband for Jill, though, that's clear.
Definitely. And to change the current Tybalt to the current Stephen, 10-20 years into the future is more than enough, especially if Tybalt has enough taste of the power of money. He might end up buying his doctorate and girls just like Stephen. 10-20 years is also enough to "corrupt" Jill into Jade if that future is really explored.
 

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The only time you really get to interact with Quinn actively are the steal lingerie event, buying from her restaurant, the Sage path where you barged into her room, and the rooftop event. Other non-direct involvements include ratting her out to Maya, telling Sage how you feel about Quinn. I wonder if all these will be taken into account?
I would really hope so. This game definitely needs more Quinn, especially as a real (endgame?) option for the MC.
 

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The only time you really get to interact with Quinn actively are the steal lingerie event, buying from her restaurant, the Sage path where you barged into her room, and the rooftop event. Other non-direct involvements include ratting her out to Maya, telling Sage how you feel about Quinn. I wonder if all these will be taken into account?
Don't forget the optional threesome with her and Riona in ep 3.

I reckon that, if she is a secret LI in the event the MC doesn't end up with any of the main ones, it could be tied to her major choices. So far we've had 2 of the major choices that affect affinity that are tied to Quinn, take her number and smoke weed, and it's possible we could get more if we get a choice to help get her out of some trouble as this could also be a major choice that affects affinity.

So maybe the trigger would be that if you did the 3 or possibly more major choices tied to Quinn, then she'll get an ending with the MC but only if you don't get endings with any of the main LIs.
 

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The way he treats Sage, the theory that he is gay gains a lot of strength. Melanie's theory is weak because she is in the gym when Chad has the call, but it does not imply anything because she was also able to go to the women's locker room when she was not on stage. Or it could be that Melanie wants to dethrone Sage from the presidency and telling Chad about the MC's love affair with Sage he can help her take over the presidency or help Quinn. It could also be that he has something against her and that explains the way he behaves towards her. Maybe there was some deception on Sage's part before the MC, but I don't believe it because of what she says in episode 3 "if he can do it because I can't" or something similar.
It could also be a totally beneficial reason Melanie/Sarah are talking about telling Chad, highly unlikely but feasible. Maybe Melanie has seen how Chad screws with Sage and is trying to help Sage find closure now that Sage has found the MC. I doubt it but it's feasible. Melanie doesn't say anything specifically about wanting Chad only about getting them to break up and needing Sarah to back her if it goes sideways. They talked about how Sage "wasn't going to like it" but sometimes you have to hurt someone to help them. I don't necessarily believe that's what this is but it is feasible. Mostly playing devils advocate and looking for other options. We tend to pick the worst possible ending to all our theories rather than the middle ground.
 
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Her father is likely the guy who goes around trying to talk himself into other people's conversations, she did mention he is a bootlicker.
It's the redhead with a topknot, I think. He did mention not being able to find his daughter who was supposed to be there.
- What TF was up with Sarah in the end? Blackmail attempt in the making?
Could be an intervention to finally break up the relationship that everyone can see is no longer healthy.
 
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