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Mormont

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It's not incest if Jill was adopted by R family, and + drama to her story.(Brazilian serial level of drama :LOL:)
Well, thankfully this ain't something like WVM where that would probably happen in that. The only real drama we are going to get about families and who is related to who is the MC Mother.
 

AvatarStormBringer

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Dude, he hasn't fucked Jill......
Would like to add onto this before the "Isabella" thing. She hasn't even touched his pecker.
Are you saying it won't happen? Really? She's one of the main LI for god's sake. She will be fucked, one way or another.

And what "Isabella" thing?

Give's us something to talk about until the next release besides it's entertaining and potentially eye opening/informative to see how others interpret things. I'm sure we all have learned something from all of it, I know I have. We all notice little things that others miss and when we brainstorm about what it all means we share those things. I actually enjoy it. Meh Shoot Me :ROFLMAO:
Well Destiny 2's new season is out so I will head over there and see what's new. :p
 

Hazeti

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So I might be late with this theory but I just realized something replaying this game. Jill is the MC's aunt. During the date she said she had an older sister but she passed away. The mother is the daughter of a tycoon and Jill is a Royce. Also, MC by episode 5 has had the opportunity to do something sexual with someone besides Jill, not counting kissing, crotch rubbing(while she slept) or boob grabbing. There has to be a reason for that IMO and that's why. It all makes sense to me but who knows. I could be wrong.
 

Playstorepers

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I don't know if it was mentioned before since this thread has like 3500 pages so I will call 2 shots right now:

1) Jamie missing his phone during the celebration of the gay guard catcher will be an important plotpoint. Like very important. It's like a giant foreshadowing imo.
2) Derek and MC will steal Quinns clothes as a revenge prank and there will be very compromising stuff inside her pockets.

There are so many speculations and theories, which make this VN really great, but those two i am 1000% certain of.
 

xsssssssss

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I don't know if it was mentioned before since this thread has like 3500 pages so I will call 2 shots right now:

1) Jamie missing his phone during the celebration of the gay guard catcher will be an important plotpoint. Like very important. It's like a giant foreshadowing imo.
2) Derek and MC will steal Quinns clothes as a revenge prank and there will be very compromising stuff inside her pockets.

There are so many speculations and theories, which make this VN really great, but those two i am 1000% certain of.
I have no desire to steal my lady of quinn’s Clothes, so I hope that ain’t the case.
 

Holy Bacchus

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exactly and speaking of that, any news about? episode name or something?
It's not even been 2 weeks since ep 5 dropped, give the guy a break. All we know right now is that they're working on updating the walkthrough and that development on ep 6 has started to some degree.

I don't think we'll see any substantial info like preview pics, render numbers, etc, for at least a month or 2, and if I recall correctly, we first found out the title of ep 5 in March so the ep 6 title reveal is probably also a couple of months away.

It's not incest if Jill was adopted by R family, and + drama to her story.(Brazilian serial level of drama :LOL:)
It technically still is because under the law, incest is broadly defined as "sexual relations between people classed as being too closely related to marry each other", and this includes adopted relatives and step relatives who share no blood connection. Even if Jill were adopted and the MC revealed to be related by blood to the Royce's, she and him, under the law, are regarded as siblings and therefore it would be considered incest.

But all this bickering is pointless because it's never gonna happen. The MC will not be related to any of the LIs, DPC has made this abundantly clear.

Continuing to bring this up is like beating a dead horse until there's nothing left but dust, burying said dust in a pet sematary, and performing a satanic ritual to bring it back to life so you can kill it and beat it's dead, lifeless body all over again.
 
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So I might be late with this theory but I just realized something replaying this game. Jill is the MC's aunt. During the date she said she had an older sister but she passed away. The mother is the daughter of a tycoon and Jill is a Royce. Also, MC by episode 5 has had the opportunity to do something sexual with someone besides Jill, not counting kissing, crotch rubbing(while she slept) or boob grabbing. There has to be a reason for that IMO and that's why. It all makes sense to me but who knows. I could be wrong.
Clearly you're buying drugs from Quinn.
 

mindern

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So I might be late with this theory but I just realized something replaying this game. Jill is the MC's aunt. During the date she said she had an older sister but she passed away. The mother is the daughter of a tycoon and Jill is a Royce. Also, MC by episode 5 has had the opportunity to do something sexual with someone besides Jill, not counting kissing, crotch rubbing(while she slept) or boob grabbing. There has to be a reason for that IMO and that's why. It all makes sense to me but who knows. I could be wrong.
There’s a photo under Jill’s bed of a woman with a child on her shoulders. It’s widely assumed that it’s Jill and her sister based on appearance and hair colour.

Jill is only 2-3 years older than MC. The kid in the photo is older than two in the photo and not sitting on the shoulders of a corpse. MC’s mother died in child birth so assuming the photo is of the sister (and the kid is Jill) she cant be his mother. Granted the photo could be of someone else and the name on it is obscured by the MC’s thumb but the choices on who it is are limited.

Plus the whole “no incest” thing on patreon making it an almost certain impossibility.

Jill not having any sex yet is just him writing diverse characters. MC has only known her 2 weeks... It’s not insane they haven’t fucked yet. I get this is an adult VN and sex within hours of meeting is normal but I personally am enjoying the slow burn on Jill. It’s making for a nice, coherent, story.
 

always86

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There’s a photo under Jill’s bed of a woman with a child on her shoulders. It’s widely assumed that it’s Jill and her sister based on appearance and hair colour.

Jill is only 2-3 years older than MC. The kid in the photo is older than two in the photo and not sitting on the shoulders of a corpse. MC’s mother died in child birth so assuming the photo is of the sister (and the kid is Jill) she cant be his mother. Granted the photo could be of someone else and the name on it is obscured by the MC’s thumb but the choices on who it is are limited.

Plus the whole “no incest” thing on patreon making it an almost certain impossibility.

Jill not having any sex yet is just him writing diverse characters. MC has only known her 2 weeks... It’s not insane they haven’t fucked yet. I get this is an adult VN and sex within hours of meeting is normal but I personally am enjoying the slow burn on Jill. It’s making for a nice, coherent, story.
I’m not writing off the possibility that MC and Jill are related. I don’t think it will be the case 1. Because of incest (she’d be his Aunt) but 2. Because the timeline doesn’t quite fit.

I’m also not convinced he is a Burgmeister. While I don’t hate the idea, I think it would contradict The line MCs dad says when he drops him off, basically ‘Burgmeister Royce what a fancy name‘. If he had been hiding the Moms identity I don’t think he would have commented At all
 

Holy Bacchus

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I’m not writing off the possibility that MC and Jill are related.
You should because it ain't gonna happen.

I’m also not convinced he is a Burgmeister. While I don’t hate the idea, I think it would contradict The line MCs dad says when he drops him off, basically ‘Burgmeister Royce what a fancy name‘. If he had been hiding the Moms identity I don’t think he would have commented At all
The problem with the written word is that it doesn't convey inflection in a person's speech. For all we know he could have said that it in a very droll and slightly sarcastic way because he's had experience dealing with them and he knows what they're like.
 

omnis23

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Give's us something to talk about until the next release besides it's entertaining and potentially eye opening/informative to see how others interpret things. I'm sure we all have learned something from all of it, I know I have. We all notice little things that others miss and when we brainstorm about what it all means we share those things. I actually enjoy it. Meh Shoot Me :ROFLMAO:
I apsolutely agree. We kinda have to talk about something until probably october when we will have some answers. Plus i like hearing all the opinions.
I’m not writing off the possibility that MC and Jill are related. I don’t think it will be the case 1. Because of incest (she’d be his Aunt) but 2. Because the timeline doesn’t quite fit.

I’m also not convinced he is a Burgmeister. While I don’t hate the idea, I think it would contradict The line MCs dad says when he drops him off, basically ‘Burgmeister Royce what a fancy name‘. If he had been hiding the Moms identity I don’t think he would have commented At all
I agree with you. There are a million of ways this could play out so we will see eventually and techically it wouldnt be incestual if Jill is adopted. Doesn't mean that our opinion is wrong or right...

It technically still is because under the law, incest is broadly defined as "sexual relations between people classed as being too closely related to marry each other", and this includes adopted relatives and step relatives who share no blood connection. Even if Jill were adopted and the MC revealed to be related by blood to the Royce's, she and him, under the law, are regarded as siblings and therefore it would be considered incest.

But all this bickering is pointless because it's never gonna happen. The MC will not be related to any of the LIs, DPC has made this abundantly clear.

Continuing to bring this up is like beating a dead horse until there's nothing left but dust, burying said dust in a pet sematary, and performing a satanic ritual to bring it back to life so you can kill it and beat it's dead, lifeless body all over again.

Although, I have to admit that i know very little about patreon incest rules or general rules for that matter, there is a game called "long live the princess" in which the MC plays the role of a seer/truthsayer who then eventually can indulge in sexual relationship with his sister. Last time I checked the game was still on patreon, soo...
That being said, I dont know anything about DPC's intentions but i know he is against incest. So am I if that is what you are wondering.
If Jill is adopted it isnt really an incest and the story would receive a big plost twist which equals more drama, so i guess it is plausible!
 

Mormont

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Can someone please point out to me evidence that Jill was adopted? I mean come on that is far to much of a stretch.
 
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lemonfreak

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Although, I have to admit that i know very little about patreon incest rules or general rules for that matter, there is a game called "long live the princess" in which the MC plays the role of a seer/truthsayer who then eventually can indulge in sexual relationship with his sister. Last time I checked the game was still on patreon, soo...
That being said, I dont know anything about DPC's intentions but i know he is against incest. So am I if that is what you are wondering.
If Jill is adopted it isnt really an incest and the story would receive a big plost twist which equals more drama, so i guess it is plausible!
Patreon as a company probably have no issue with incest but paypal and mastercard do (or at least pretend to in order to appease the more conservative amoung their customer base). You're right that there are a few games on Patreon that have unpatched incest content because so far they've flown under the radar by forcing people to play several hours before finding it (College Life, for example, forces you to play for 3-4 weeks in-game before getting to it) so unless it gets reported they're happy to adopt a don't ask, don't tell policy. Calling your game Dr Incest (or how I leaned to stop worrying and fuck my family) will get it kicked off the platform pretty quickly.

But to your point, per their rules, blood related family is incest,adopted family is incest and even step-family is incest (and that isn't incest at all irl)
Can someone please point out to me evidence that Jill was adopted? I mean come on that is far to much of a stretch.
Self-revealed internal sources, ie. made up.

The closest thing to evidence is that, apparently, adopted kids sometimes get bullied for being adopted.
 

mindern

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Can someone please point out to me evidence that Jill was adopted? I mean come on that is far to much of a stretch.
There isn’t any. People are working backwards from “I want incest” and making up shit to prove it whilst bypassing the patreon rules.

Next we will have the fucking furries descend on this thread and start theorising Jill’s father is actually a Shetland pony because we’ve never seen him and rich girls like horses. That makes her half pony and disguising her equine features with... magic?
 

Holy Bacchus

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Although, I have to admit that i know very little about patreon incest rules or general rules for that matter, there is a game called "long live the princess" in which the MC plays the role of a seer/truthsayer who then eventually can indulge in sexual relationship with his sister. Last time I checked the game was still on patreon, soo...
That being said, I dont know anything about DPC's intentions but i know he is against incest. So am I if that is what you are wondering.
If Jill is adopted it isnt really an incest and the story would receive a big plost twist which equals more drama, so i guess it is plausible!
There are some games that still contain incest on Patreon but they're small enough to go unnoticed. BaDIK is a big game with a big following so it would easily be flagged if it had any in it.

And, once again, adopted siblings is considered incest under the law. It's not just about being related by blood, it's about being members of the same family.
 

lemonfreak

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There isn’t any. People are working backwards from “I want incest” and making up shit to prove it whilst bypassing the patreon rules.

Next we will have the fucking furries descend on this thread and start theorising Jill’s father is actually a Shetland pony because we’ve never seen him and rich girls like horses. That makes her half pony and disguising her equine features with... magic?
Come on, we all know who Jill's dad is
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omnis23

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Can someone please point out to me evidence that Jill was adopted? I mean come on that is far to much of a stretch.
I admit it maybe a bit of a strech.
But ,by that logic, can you provide proof that she is not adopted?
Same as me, you cant..
These are just theories and guessing. We wont know if any of us is right until episode 6.
 

lemonfreak

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I admit it maybe a bit of a strech.
But ,by that logic, can you provide proof that she is not adopted?
Same as me, you cant..
These are just theories and guessing. We wont know if any of us is right until episode 6.
That's the fallacy, the fact that nothing has disproved the possibilty that Jill is adopted does not suggest that she is. There's no proof that she isn't Canadian either, that doesn't mean she is.
 
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