VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[lemonfreak]

but MC and Jill aren't family, they didn't grow together etc.

But through the adoption they would be related.

I agree, in real life none of this is a problem but, due to the rules of the website through which the dev gets his funding, it is.

Again,even step family isn't allowed. So if, in storyline, a mother of an 18 year old and a father of a 19 year old get married, the 18 and 19 year olds can't fuck because that's incest under Patreon's T&Cs.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

But through the adoption they would be related.

I agree, in real life none of this is a problem but, due to the rules of the website through which the dev gets his funding, it is.

...and 20 years ago I remember a show about exactly that. Two people marring and their already teenage children having a relationship.

 

[lemonfreak]

...and 20 years ago I remember a show about exactly that. Two people marring and their already teenage children having a relationship.

I too remember a, almost certainly different, show with that situation, unless you're thinking of a British sitcom starring Jaspar Carrot and Meera Syal.

 

[mindern]

why pay for something Quinn would do for free?

yes, but MC's mother being related to Jill's family could happen if for example, at one point mid season 2 we discover that Jill is suppodely related, only to find out that she was adopted in later seasons.... that would bring the complications of incest to their relationship (they would go from dating and kissing to being sibilngs, the same way Luke and Leia did) only to find later on that Jill was adopted...

How into incest do you have to be to think Luke and Leia dated...

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

I too remember a, almost certainly different, show with that situation, unless you're thinking of a British sitcom starring Jaspar Carrot and Meera Syal.

No, I'm not British. But this feels like a general thing, 20 to 30 years ago TV felt more free, there are certain things from back then that I can't see being rerun today.

How into incest do you have to be to think Luke and Leia dated...

Well, they did kiss.

 

[lemonfreak]

No, I'm not British. But this feels like a general thing, 20 to 30 years ago TV felt more free, there are certain things from back then that I can't see being rerun today.

Right, 30 Rock (which I didn't watch much and barely remember) had an episode where Liz either slept with, or nearly slept with, her cousin (although I think they were second or third cousins but still) and 4 Weddings and a Funeral had one of the characters meet, immediately fall in love with and ultimately marry a distant cousin of his.

At the risk of straying completely off-topic, those jokes could still be made today, it's just that, now, simply invoking the situation doesn't count as a joke; there has to be a point to the observation or it's percieved as a downward punch.

 

[Raptus Puellae]

But through the adoption they would be related.

I agree, in real life none of this is a problem but, due to the rules of the website through which the dev gets his funding, it is.

Again,even step family isn't allowed. So if, in storyline, a mother of an 18 year old and a father of a 19 year old get married, the 18 and 19 year olds can't fuck because that's incest under Patreon's T&Cs.

I believe what Leah did in AL and what Peter wanted to do to Melissa are against patreon's T&C... so maybe professor fruity cake will find a way to navigate around it

 

[lemonfreak]

I believe what Leah did in AL and what Peter wanted to do to Melissa are against patreon's T&C... so maybe professor fruity cake will find a way to navigate around it

It's been so long since I played AL that I don't know what you mean but there's no fucking way I'm putting myself through that again so I'll have to assume you're correct.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

It's been so long since I played AL that I don't know what you mean but there's no fucking way I'm putting myself through that again so I'll have to assume you're correct.

I think he means abusing a sleeping person.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

but MC and Jill aren't family, they didn't grow together etc.

That. Does. Not. Matter.

Legally, any and all familial relationships are considered incest and this includes non-blood related relatives like an adopted sibling, a sister-in-law, a step-Mom, etc. You also don't have to have grown up with the person either; for example, if a guy's Dad got remarried to a woman who has a daughter, that would make his son and her daughter legally considered to be siblings even though they have no blood relation and haven't known each other until their parents met, and if they have sex then that is still incest under the law.

Therefore, Patreon takes a harsh stance against any form of incest (when they find out about it), no matter how diuted it might seem.

 

[Alfagrem]

The biggest thing that bothers me about Maya is the sheer amount of winking she does.

That. Does. Not. Matter.

Legally, any and all familial relationships are considered incest and this includes non-blood related relatives like an adopted sibling, a sister-in-law, a step-Mom, etc. You also don't have to have grown up with the person either; for example, if a guy's Dad got remarried to a woman who has a daughter, that would make his son and her daughter legally considered to be siblings even though they have no blood relation and haven't known each other until their parents met, and if they have sex then that is still incest under the law.

Therefore, Patreon takes a harsh stance against any form of incest (when they find out about it), no matter how diuted it might seem.

What if it's a time travel game and the person is your great-great-great-great-great grandaughter?

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

it seems to me an excellent investment plan


I don't remember the father's words exactly, but if I'm not mistaken, he talks about a letter from his mother, and not about his mother, as if she had actually written it.

Neil specifically tells MC "It's about your mother"

 

[lemonfreak]

The biggest thing that bothers me about Maya is the sheer amount of winking she does.


What if it's a time travel game and the person is your great-great-great-great-great grandaughter?

As long as it's never revealed to us, the players, that time travel is involved it shouldn't be a problem

 

[FasterOrigin]

Well, definitely my favourite game

 

[Qmil679]

Are there consequences when we tell Quinn we had sex with Camila on the first order?
I never chose the option to let Quinn find out because I didn't want to cause Camila problems, because I like her.

 

[Cooling Prob]

Sorry but I had to do this..

Someone did a "Jill's Song" so I did the same for Isabella...I just had to do it

 

[always86]

That. Does. Not. Matter.

Legally, any and all familial relationships are considered incest and this includes non-blood related relatives like an adopted sibling, a sister-in-law, a step-Mom, etc. You also don't have to have grown up with the person either; for example, if a guy's Dad got remarried to a woman who has a daughter, that would make his son and her daughter legally considered to be siblings even though they have no blood relation and haven't known each other until their parents met, and if they have sex then that is still incest under the law.

Therefore, Patreon takes a harsh stance against any form of incest (when they find out about it), no matter how diuted it might seem.

I'm not actually sure that is true, though it may depend where you are from. Patreon seem to let people get away with the 'adopted' brother and sister angle quite regularly. It's also the way most porn companies use to skirt the law. If Jill was adopted in to the family it would not be incest, not by any reasonable measure. I don't even think it would be immoral. If she and MC have no blood relationship and no known familial ties up to this point in thier life then I don't think that is an issue.

I don't care one way or the other. I'm just saying if it happens it's not shocking to me. I think the Burgmeister path is actually more likely.

On another note not sure anyone has pointed this out.

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These could be Quinn's feet as the next shot turns to the right and then the following one Quinn is standing infront of Riona. Other possibilities;

Police monitoring them in the van
Somone else watching them

 

[lemonfreak]

I'm not actually sure that is true, though it may depend where you are from. Patreon seem to let people get away with the 'adopted' brother and sister angle quite regularly. It's also the way most porn companies use to skirt the law. If Jill was adopted in to the family it would not be incest, not by any reasonable measure. I don't even think it would be immoral. If she and MC have no blood relationship and no known familial ties up to this point in thier life then I don't think that is an issue.

I don't care one way or the other. I'm just saying if it happens it's not shocking to me. I think the Burgmeister path is actually more likely.

On another note not sure anyone has pointed this out.

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These could be Quinn's feet as the next shot turns to the right and then the following one Quinn is standing infront of Riona. Other possibilities;

Police monitoring them in the van
Somone else watching them

Yes, there are games with incest that slip through, that's not because Patreon endorses that content but because they don't know about it; they rely on people reporting violations since they lack the manpower to check every single creator. It's a bug, not a feature.

 

[always86]

Yes, there are games with incest that slip through, that's not because Patreon endorses that content but because they don't know about it; they rely on people reporting violations since they lack the manpower to check every single creator. It's a bug, not a feature.

Actually...


As per the bottom line, context can create exceptions. I'm not saying they would let something like Big Brother skirt the rules, however an Unknown Aunt/ Nephew relationship as per Game of Thrones would be explicitly allowed.

 

[felicemastronzo]

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As per the bottom line, context can create exceptions. I'm not saying they would let something like Big Brother skirt the rules, however an Unknown Aunt/ Nephew relationship as per Game of Thrones would be explicitly allowed.

I know very little Patreon and its rules. but here the incest question is upstream.

"Being a DIK" is clearly a story that would not gain anything from the presence of incest. It is a teen drama set in a school, what would incest add?

if one of the LIs was discovered to be a relative of MC, never having known each other, never lived together, there would be no moral but only social remorse.
therefore the "surprise" relative of MC would either give up any romantic relationship with him, or decide to go on

no advantage neither in terms of history nor in terms of sexual tension, of kinky. like pineapple on a pizza