VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

OK, maybe i see MC as a savior of all girls and in the end DPC will slap me for being too naive. Not my fault if i love all these girls (except Arieth and Wendy)

I've always kind of felt that the MC is there to "save" certain, if not most, characters in this game and especially the main LIs because it feels like him being a part of their lives is helping them in some way.

• Sage - In a one-sided relationship where she isn't being given the physical and emotional affection she needs, the MC can show her what it's like to have someone like that and that she deserves to have someone like that.
• Bella - Suffering from some sort of emotional trauma which has caused her to shut herself off from people, the MC can break through that shell by being open, honest, and kind with her and will eventually help her to deal with this trauma which will help her to move on and be happy again.
• Jill - A rich girl who seems somewhat trapped in her circumstances and feels that people are only ever interested in her because of who she is, the MC can show her that there are genuine people out there who aren't motivated by money and possibly show her that she doesn't have to rely on it for her happiness and can choose her own future much like his mother did.
• Maya - An insecure girl coming from a repressive, religious household who's afraid to be herself, the MC can be a selfless friend to her in her time of need and show her unconditional affection which can not only boost her confidence but also make her feel that, even if she's lost the love of her parents, she can find others who will love and care for her and accept her for who she is.
• Josy - A girl with a veneer of confidence but who is scared of losing those closest to her, most likely caused by unresolved feelings over her parents' divorce, the MC can be a calming voice that can help her to see that things aren't always as bad as they seem and can possibly help her to resolve these fears about being alone.

Other characters like Quinn, Riona, Camila, Jade, Cathy, Envy, and even the DIKs seem like they could benefit from the MC in some way too and that he is something of "hero" figure in this story.

Of course, DPC can easily pull this rug from under us like he did with AL, but it at least has this "saviour MC" feeling as of now.

I keep seeing this. Can you clarify where this has come from? Sorry but AL was no great shakes in my own opinion and...well..serious writer and porn games do not belong in the same sentence.

Not knocking anyone or anything, just curious as to where that saying keeps coming from. No 'serious writer' would write this rubbish in this section of the industry.

To be fair, DPC has never labeled themselves a "serious writer", that title has been bestowed upon them by the fans because AL dealt with some fairly gritty and hard-hitting themes that you don't normally see in adult VNs.

That's not to say they don't write well, because they do, but people will often take the "serious writer" title to mean that DPC is going to go down some very dark roads and really fuck with our emotions, which they could do of course, but they don't necessarily have to. Some writers stick to one genre of storytelling and other can span different genres, and I hope that DPC is the latter and won't turn this game into something similar to AL with a deeply tragic and hard-hitting finale, and instead give us something that is more upbeat and hopeful.

Next update this month?

No.

Seriously, what's with the sudden influx of "update when?" comments? Is this just what happens when a game hits the 2 month, post-update mark that people think this is when an update should arrive?

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

I've always kind of felt that the MC is there to "save" certain, if not most, characters in this game and especially the main LIs because it feels like him being a part of their lives is helping them in some way.

• Sage - In a one-sided relationship where she isn't being given the physical and emotional affection she needs, the MC can show her what it's like to have someone like that and that she deserves to have someone like that.
• Bella - Suffering from some sort of emotional trauma which has caused her to shut herself off from people, the MC can break through that shell by being open, honest, and kind with her and will eventually help her to deal with this trauma which will help her to move on and be happy again.
• Jill - A rich girl who seems somewhat trapped in her circumstances and feels that people are only ever interested in her because of who she is, the MC can show her that there are genuine people out there who aren't motivated by money and possibly show her that she doesn't have to rely on it for her happiness and can choose her own future much like his mother did.
• Maya - An insecure girl coming from a repressive, religious household who's afraid to be herself, the MC can be a selfless friend to her in her time of need and show her unconditional affection which can not only boost her confidence but also make her feel that, even if she's lost the love of her parents, she can find others who will love and care for her and accept her for who she is.
• Josy - A girl with a veneer of confidence but who is scared of losing those closest to her, most likely caused by unresolved feelings over her parents' divorce, the MC can be a calming voice that can help her to see that things aren't always as bad as they seem and can possibly help her to resolve these fears about being alone.

Other characters like Quinn, Riona, Camila, Jade, Cathy, Envy, and even the DIKs seem like they could benefit from the MC in some way too and that he is something of "hero" figure in this story.

Of course, DPC can easily pull this rug from under us like he did with AL, but it at least has this "saviour MC" feeling as of now.



To be fair, DPC has never labeled themselves a "serious writer", that title has been bestowed upon them by the fans because AL dealt with some fairly gritty and hard-hitting themes that you don't normally see in adult VNs.

That's not to say they don't write well, because they do, but people will often take the "serious writer" title to mean that DPC is going to go down some very dark roads and really fuck with our emotions, which they could do of course, but they don't necessarily have to. Some writers stick to one genre of storytelling and other can span different genres, and I hope that DPC is the latter and won't turn this game into something similar to AL with a deeply tragic and hard-hitting finale, and instead give us something that is more upbeat and hopeful.



No.

Seriously, what's with the sudden influx of "update when?" comments? Is this just what happens when a game hits the 2 month, post-update mark that people think this is when an update should arrive?

So you're saying that I should try to help all this girls... At the same time... Just out of selflessness, not that they are all crazy hot or anything. Just out of pure desire to help. We don't want all this girls to not solve their problems, right?

 

[felicemastronzo]

I've always kind of felt that the MC is there to "save" certain, if not most, characters in this game and especially the main LIs because it feels like him being a part of their lives is helping them in some way.

• Sage - In a one-sided relationship where she isn't being given the physical and emotional affection she needs, the MC can show her what it's like to have someone like that and that she deserves to have someone like that.
• Bella - Suffering from some sort of emotional trauma which has caused her to shut herself off from people, the MC can break through that shell by being open, honest, and kind with her and will eventually help her to deal with this trauma which will help her to move on and be happy again.
• Jill - A rich girl who seems somewhat trapped in her circumstances and feels that people are only ever interested in her because of who she is, the MC can show her that there are genuine people out there who aren't motivated by money and possibly show her that she doesn't have to rely on it for her happiness and can choose her own future much like his mother did.
• Maya - An insecure girl coming from a repressive, religious household who's afraid to be herself, the MC can be a selfless friend to her in her time of need and show her unconditional affection which can not only boost her confidence but also make her feel that, even if she's lost the love of her parents, she can find others who will love and care for her and accept her for who she is.
• Josy - A girl with a veneer of confidence but who is scared of losing those closest to her, most likely caused by unresolved feelings over her parents' divorce, the MC can be a calming voice that can help her to see that things aren't always as bad as they seem and can possibly help her to resolve these fears about being alone.

Other characters like Quinn, Riona, Camila, Jade, Cathy, Envy, and even the DIKs seem like they could benefit from the MC in some way too and that he is something of "hero" figure in this story.

Of course, DPC can easily pull this rug from under us like he did with AL, but it at least has this "saviour MC" feeling as of now.

MC has this role of savior in every context, even with the DIKs.

his entire path seems to be at stake in the choice of who to help and until when

being the protagonist of the story all the dramas that will break out will fall on him (for now the only one directly linked to him is the letter from his mother), DPC for some of them will not make us choose, MC will have to be part of it, for others we will probably be able choose how much to get involved

in these choices the match between CHICK and DIK will be played

 

[Pewdiepie9966]

I dont like either much tbh. I prefer Jill over Bella for what its worth.

Team Josy all the way for me

at least there is someone who gets it, feels good to know that I am not alone in this *thumbs up for you*

 

[always86]

I keep seeing this. Can you clarify where this has come from? Sorry but AL was no great shakes in my own opinion and...well..serious writer and porn games do not belong in the same sentence.

Not knocking anyone or anything, just curious as to where that saying keeps coming from, but generally serious and porn don't belong together and at the end of the day, this is a porn game, not an adult novel with some sex (neither which is taken 'seriously' in the literary industry, just pulp that sells well).

Taking your work seriously, writing serious things and being taken seriously are different things.

In terms of the adult VN genre DPC has two very popular games and 7000 Patreons. AL was a drama with sex. This is a Teen College comedy with sex. I think DPC takes his work seriously, he isn’t easily influenced by the fans. To my knowledge he has only produced two works. AL is generally well regarded For what it is and so is BaDIK. In terms of being taken seriously in the literary world, you’re right, but I don’t think anyone is suggesting he will be a NYT best seller. (Though BaDIK did hit top 20 on steam.

And you can disuade him of pursuing Camila... Does he mention it if you tell him not to go after her?

And no. Jill is not the MC's aunt. We've seen both Jill's sister and MC's mom. They are not the same person. Dates don't match either.

To be honest I don't remember. Maybe it was an AMA, from twitter or somewhere else. I don't remember where I took the quote from.

My bet is that he does AVNs because porn sells. Would this game had such following if it wasn't porn? Maybe it's the same that happened to Fate Stay Night. Back in that day it was unthinkable to have a VN without porn, and the few sex scenes felt shoehorned to fill a quota. I think something similar may be at play here.

Have we seen her sister? We’ve seen a picture of an unknown female character with a kid on her shoulders. Agree the timeline is questionable, and probably the biggest weakness of the theory. However Jill could have been 3 or 4 when her sister died. Which would be roughly right. Still I think that is probably the biggest where it will all fall down.

The MC booked grinding only, she probably charges extra for more (Quinn tried to make us pay more if you sell Camila out) but I bet she does.

I think Camilla said she would only do the Glory Holes. (Or was that Riona?). I’d guess your right that the logic is grinding is $2 $3 for bj $4 For sex and 4/5$ for threesome

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Have we seen her sister? We’ve seen a picture of an unknown female character with a kid on her shoulders. Agree the timeline is questionable, and probably the biggest weakness of the theory. However Jill could have been 3 or 4 when her sister died. Which would be roughly right. Still I think that is probably the biggest where it will all fall down.

I meant that polaroid, yeah. It's not the same person, and Jill it's too old, she looks like ten.

I think Camilla said she would only do the Glory Holes. (Or was that Riona?). I’d guess your right that the logic is grinding is $2 $3 for bj $4 For sex and 4/5$ for threesome

It was Camila, yeah. It seems she doesn't want to get a reputation. That's why I doubt she had anything with Tommy, but who knows.

 

[Sheet420]

Any chance for a new update in August or maybe September?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Any chance for a new update in August or maybe September?

End of September, maybe, but most likely October.

 

[always86]

I meant that polaroid, yeah. It's not the same person, and Jill it's too old, she looks like ten.

It was Camila, yeah. It seems she doesn't want to get a reputation. That's why I doubt she had anything with Tommy, but who knows.

But we don’t know who is in the Polaroid. It seems likely it‘s Jill’s sister, and agreed if that is Jill she would be to old. But It’s not confirmed who that is.

i don’t think Camila fucked Tommy. Fairly sure she boned Rusty when the laptop was stolen though.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

The MC booked grinding only, she probably charges extra for more (Quinn tried to make us pay more if you sell Camila out) but I bet she does.

Reason why I want to confirm is because, although I don't know about her drug business, I thought her restaurant can be saved by cutting costs. Since all services are provided through the glory holes, unless the customers are veterans, they cannot differentiate what they are fucking on the other side. So Quinn just has to let go of the current employees to save tuition fees, invest in a bunch of tengas/fleshlights, hire some part-time "operators", and she's good to go.

 

[Dashxp4k]

Taking your work seriously, writing serious things and being taken seriously are different things.

In terms of the adult VN genre DPC has two very popular games and 7000 Patreons. AL was a drama with sex. This is a Teen College comedy with sex. I think DPC takes his work seriously, he isn’t easily influenced by the fans. To my knowledge he has only produced two works. AL is generally well regarded For what it is and so is BaDIK. In terms of being taken seriously in the literary world, you’re right, but I don’t think anyone is suggesting he will be a NYT best seller. (Though BaDIK did hit top 20 on steam.



Have we seen her sister? We’ve seen a picture of an unknown female character with a kid on her shoulders. Agree the timeline is questionable, and probably the biggest weakness of the theory. However Jill could have been 3 or 4 when her sister died. Which would be roughly right. Still I think that is probably the biggest where it will all fall down.



I think Camilla said she would only do the Glory Holes. (Or was that Riona?). I’d guess your right that the logic is grinding is $2 $3 for bj $4 For sex and 4/5$ for threesome

Jill is much older when her sister died.

 

[misir ali]

well i played last update i want to know that if there are any route beside being a dik or chicks ???

 

[Holy Bacchus]

well i played last update i want to know that if there are any route beside being a dik or chicks ???

There's always Neutral.

 

[felicemastronzo]

well i played last update i want to know that if there are any route beside being a dik or chicks ???

real routes for now there are none.

the only real crossroads is the one between Maya & Josy (friendship or love) and the date with Jade and then Cathe

besides that there is a single scene with Jill that you can only access from Chick, but you only lose the scene, the story is complete even so.

another difference is whether or not Mc is a client of Quinn's restaurant, which gives access to further scenes with the HOTs

 

[Darkdevil66]

Reason why I want to confirm is because, although I don't know about her drug business, I thought her restaurant can be saved by cutting costs. Since all services are provided through the glory holes, unless the customers are veterans, they cannot differentiate what they are fucking on the other side. So Quinn just has to let go of the current employees to save tuition fees, invest in a bunch of tengas/fleshlights, hire some part-time "operators", and she's good to go.

The glory hole is just the standard service. They provide full sex for higher prices (like Sarah in Ep2 or Quinn & Riona threesome). The glory hole system isn't probably enough to save tuition fees. They probably provide the "special expensive meals" just for few customers.

Ep5 kinda revealed Burke is a customer. Due to his position and his thirst for young women, he wouldn't be satisfied with the glory hole system. His argument with Jade in ep3 implied he fucked at least three students in the past. It's unclear if he used the restaurant before but he could definitely be a regular. His implication as a major figure in B&R would explain how the HOTs can afford free tuition. I can totally see him as the Weinstein of the game.

 

[cryhwks]

You can absolutely be neutral/Grey Jedi. To my knowledge there hasn't been anything major you've lost out on being neutral? I guess it depends on what you think is "major"?

 

[KristopheH]

Jill is much older when her sister died.

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Is it just me, or does that more like a young Melanie, rather than a young Jill?

 

[always86]

Jill is much older when her sister died.

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The assumption there is that the black and white photo is Jill and her sister. While I agree it seems the likely case it raises a question.

1. Why obscure the name?

If it is Jill’s sister, and the only significance is that she is dead, hiding the name doesn’t add anything In that moment for the MC or the audience. The only reason to do so is to keep the identity somewhat secret. if it said ‘Valerie Royce‘ in that moment it would still be meaningless to the MC. We can guess the Text on the bottom is the name, it suggests there is something to hide or at least be revealed there.

Of course that hidden thing could be the Royce name. However having a picture of a Royce wouldn’t automatically prove that Jill is one and DPC could of made this first name only as with Bella.

Similarly you could argue the choice not to reveal Bella’s surname might hold significance, however in that moment I think it is more to reveal she calls her Bella than to hide Bella’s surname.

 

[6pak2go]

I must say I have thoroughly enjoyed reading the story discussions and plot theories you guys have as I patiently wait for the next episode to drop. The discussion back on page 3550 was especially good on Maya and Josy. As the thread closes in on 4000 pages, DPC must be quite surprised by the shear number of passionate posts his story has generated. It's an exemplification to his writing skills. Carry on...

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I must say I have thoroughly enjoyed reading the story discussions and plot theories you guys have as I patiently wait for the next episode to drop. The discussion back on page 3550 was especially good on Maya and Josy. As the thread closes in on 4000 pages, DPC must be quite surprised by the shear number of passionate posts his story has generated. It's an exemplification to his writing skills. Carry on...

I'd be surprised if DPC has seen anything people say on this site since they apparently aren't very fond of it these days.