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considering how many "dramas" have already been indicated and how many could already explode there would be no need to add anything but only to develop what has already been done

but then I think about the last part of AL and there is no theory that can be considered excessive

Will DPC have learned to handle twists?
 
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Okay, I've seen this one before and if anything can make me abandon the fruitless pursuit of trying to win Sage's heart and join the Church of Jill instead, it's Jill lowkey being this awesome. I legit want this.
I actually enjoy this one being true or not.
But I'm leaning towards Isabella being the troll 'cause 1. He hates Tybalt 2. Who would suspect a librarian be an internet troll? It's like as close to impossible of a nurse being a psycho-killer!

So, always go to Sage !!!!
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Yeah, I know what you meant. But the thing is, it would be weird to have her around all that scheme and not include her, just in case she doesn't rat them out and the best way of doing it is including her in their plans. And about being too soon to bring her think about Camila, she was in since the beginning, her sauna-like test was the shower scene with the MC. Maybe it was too soon for Ashley for sex but who knows what they asked of her. I'm not sure this is what happened but it seems the most logical explanation for now.
Ashley was ok for MC licking her pussy... but not for being fucked in front of every one. And maybe Ashley is only for Derek...
 
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Yeah, telling Josy she's not HOT material is the most obvious lie in history.

Just now I noticed something. It was commented on episode 4 but now on episode 5 there's more.
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It looks like after episode 5 we did Tommy's fantasies, we had Lily still to do. I wonder if he's done any of those.
Speaking of fantasies, I feel bad for Derek :

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He made no progress so far while the MC has already fucked half of the list ( 75% if we include Cathy's blowbjob ). At this point his scoreboard only includes Crabs girl, a fat feminist and a granny. Bro deserves better. :(
 

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I'm not so sure about Bella's haircut anymore, seemed fine on first render but now it's a bit...weird. Maybe because she's too similar to others now. :unsure:
I had the same thought after the group shot. I doubt it will be a permanent fixture, we’re a long way off a Summer beach episode. Must be coming up on late September even early October now.

I wouldn't want BaDIK to turn into anything close to a harem game, either. I just had to stop playing WVM because the "everyone wants the MC and they're all cool with each other too" syndrome just became unbearable. Very well, If I have to renounce these fantasies of mine to avoid the same fate, so be it.

There better be some non-canon bonus renders at some point, though. I'm getting thirsty over here. :BootyTime:
In a way it already is a Harem game. MC has a least half a dozen women after him, very typical of Ecchi anime genre. I don’t expect a harem ending mind you. That said I do think we will get a variety of threesomes. One simple reason I think this is variety. We’re less than half way, perhaps 1/3 maybe even only 1/4 of the way through the game. There are a fair few characters we haven’t banged yet, but presuming we continue to get 10-15 lewd/sex scenes a chapter we’ll get through them fairly quickly.

Plus while I think Swyper is fun. I’d personally prefer that lot’s of energy isn’t put in to tertiary character just for the sake of a sex scene with a Character that is completely meaningless in The grand scheme of things.

It kind of already is a "power fantasy" game, all adult VNs are; he converts a lesbian, can get into a throuple relationship with 2 girls, be FWB with the sorority President, have the richest girl on campus be totally smitten with him, get hot and heavy with 3 teachers, and cum at least 6 times with several different girls in one night.

If Jill and Bella is a red herring, then it would have to be a bloody big herring because there's not really much else that seems to fit what's known at this point, or at least not anything I've seen people here being able to come up with that makes greater sense. DPC would have to pull a M Night Shyamalan style twist for it to not be what it appears to be.
As I’ve said I think there are a few possibilities With this. But given the genre (teen sex comedy melodrama) I think it’s most likely the case that is was a sexual thing.

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that out of all the characters, Derek is the only one that doesn't seem to have any baggage?
I mean i'm straight AF though, but I feel I would choose Derek just to avoid any unwanted emotional trauma... :ROFLMAO:
I don’t think you can behave like Derek and not have some baggage. I do have a theory that he is actually not cheating in school and is just a genius. I know he sells ‘cheats’, and perhaps the ’secret genius’ twist is a bit over done, but I do think it would be funny to find out the nutcase your best friends with is actually wicked smart.

Just thinking about crazy Derek when he gives you the fish. I wish you could of used it to slap Tybalt rather than punch him.

Let's be honest here, there is no winning with her. She want's the LIMP PP and that is just what it is. Nothing that can be done.
I think having had some 3/5 sex with MC that made her squirt she is probably well on her way to getting over Chad.

To me, that would explain why she pushed the picture to the floor in ep 5 because this thing that "won't happen again" had something to do with him. It could have just been that his possible cheating led her to have an intimate moment with her friend because of being in an emotionally vulnerable state and she deeply regrets it and blames him for it, or it could be that this thing that happened was discovered by him and it caused more problems with her marriage.
I’d be surprised if the Husband caught her doing something. I think if that were the case she’d be even harder pressed to do anything with the MC as she’d be worried he might catch her again. We know the frames were down all over the house. I think she blames a lot of her social difficulties on him, but still loves him despite it all.

Hopefully In the next episode, Jill will give us this treatment.
Can’t decide if I want the innocent virgin angle or the secret Nymph one. I think with her the secret Nymph would be fun, so I think I lean that way. That said the game does lack a ‘virgin’ so who knows.

It kind of already is, I totally agree. But it used to do a better job at hiding it (I don't agree that all adult VNs are, some are, some aren't and some have a decent build up that makes it look plausible. BADIK used to be the third type), and if he keeps adding more and more porn tropes it will hurt the story a lot. The game is an inch short of adpoting both "harem game" and "all women are secretly bi" already (yeah, I pretty much consider it a harem game at this point). This is either the calm before the storm giving us a false sense of security or then the story will become more generic and dull. I think we should trust DPC and give him the benefit of the doubt for now, but it's not looking good.

We've already had this discussion, I'm not going at it again.
As I said before it‘s been a Harem game in a way since day 1. A dozen women all who will for one reason or another have sex with MC. I think you will probably find it feels less porny next chapter as the sex will be spread out. Not six scenes taking place over a few hours.

As for the secretly Bi angle, I take your point, but this is supposed to be a teen sex comedy And if those have taught us anything (they haven’t) its that college girls like to experiment.

I don't know, I strongly suspect whatever happened to Ashley has more than a little to do with Derek. It's possible she might be another another victim of Quinn's menu, but given we know that just happened to Mona, it feels wrong to have double up on the same story with Ashley.

If I'm right, I think Derek will get his share of drama (beyond whatever fallout he gets from Maya's eventual storm).
I agree with this. Seem’s likely she saw him having sex, and/ or possible someone broke the DIK code. Ashley is Maya without the desperation, so I think Pushing her would be a risk.

She is a proper lady but a freak
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Haha. I like how you guys find the sultry looks but don’t add the cute/shy/innocent ones in to the equation.

All this mother daughter talk after reading other threads of people shouting for incest patches made me confused for a moment. Anyone knows what's Quinn's criteria to include a person into her restaurant in the first place? She seemed adamant to not include Josy and possibly Maya.
Someone she can control, (Maya, Riona) someone who needs the money (Maya, Camila) someone who’s a slut (Sarah, herself)

MC's mom died, Jill sister died. So if they are the same person this means Jill is the MC's aunt. Because noone else died in that time period :ROFLMAO: and it doesn't matter if the dates don't match either. Don't let reality crush surprise incest :ROFLMAO: .
Slightly more to it than that. We know MC’s mum was from a rich family. In this game the named rich families are Burgmeister or Royce. I’d say it is fairly likely she is from one of those two. The fact that Jill‘s older sister died, is an additional connection to Royce. Jill also could be said to have a romanticised view of being poor but happy. Something That could have inspired this is an older sister who gave up everything for love. (And presumably MCs Dads big ol’ dick).

All of this could be and probably is coincidence, but we won’t know until we know. And for the record I’d prefer it not to be the case as I like Jill and I’m pretty sure there is no way she’d fuck her nephew.
 

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Sage is likely not Jade's child; a red headed male is at the party being skeezy; whereas if she was in-fact Mr Burke's kid he would have gone way easier on Chad then suspending him from a sorority, etc. Especially if MC defended Chad [i did; i felt like we were both being rail-roaded]
Jill can still be MC's young aunt; as long as no sex between them happens, DPC kept his word. I am hoping this isn't the case.
also IIRC Riona is Mona's 'mom'

in the end MC is gonna be castrated by Bella.... gorram Acting Lessons haunting me still
 

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Speaking of fantasies, I feel bad for Derek :

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He made no progress so far while the MC has already fucked half of the list ( 75% if we include Cathy's blowbjob ). At this point his scoreboard only includes Crabs girl, a fat feminist and a granny. Bro deserves better. :(
And you can disuade him of pursuing Camila... Does he mention it if you tell him not to go after her?

And no. Jill is not the MC's aunt. We've seen both Jill's sister and MC's mom. They are not the same person. Dates don't match either.
I keep seeing this. Can you clarify where this has come from? Sorry but AL was no great shakes in my own opinion and...well..serious writer and porn games do not belong in the same sentence.

Not knocking anyone or anything, just curious as to where that saying keeps coming from, but generally serious and porn don't belong together and at the end of the day, this is a porn game, not an adult novel with some sex (neither which is taken .seriously. in the literary industry, just pulp that sells well).
To be honest I don't remember. Maybe it was an AMA, from twitter or somewhere else. I don't remember where I took the quote from.

My bet is that he does AVNs because porn sells. Would this game had such following if it wasn't porn? Maybe it's the same that happened to Fate Stay Night. Back in that day it was unthinkable to have a VN without porn, and the few sex scenes felt shoehorned to fill a quota. I think something similar may be at play here.
 

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I keep seeing this. Can you clarify where this has come from? Sorry but AL was no great shakes in my own opinion and...well..serious writer and porn games do not belong in the same sentence.

Not knocking anyone or anything, just curious as to where that saying keeps coming from, but generally serious and porn don't belong together and at the end of the day, this is a porn game, not an adult novel with some sex (neither which is taken 'seriously' in the literary industry, just pulp that sells well).
I mean, DPC himself isn't making these claims, it's coming from the fans. I also doubt he's trying to break into the literary industry by any means but the fact that there's almost 4000 pages of mostly speculation about his story means he must be doing something that stands out. Even if it's just clearing the very low bar that is porn game writing.
 

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OK, maybe i see MC as a savior of all girls and in the end DPC will slap me for being too naive. Not my fault if i love all these girls (except Arieth and Wendy)
I've always kind of felt that the MC is there to "save" certain, if not most, characters in this game and especially the main LIs because it feels like him being a part of their lives is helping them in some way.
  • Sage - In a one-sided relationship where she isn't being given the physical and emotional affection she needs, the MC can show her what it's like to have someone like that and that she deserves to have someone like that.
  • Bella - Suffering from some sort of emotional trauma which has caused her to shut herself off from people, the MC can break through that shell by being open, honest, and kind with her and will eventually help her to deal with this trauma which will help her to move on and be happy again.
  • Jill - A rich girl who seems somewhat trapped in her circumstances and feels that people are only ever interested in her because of who she is, the MC can show her that there are genuine people out there who aren't motivated by money and possibly show her that she doesn't have to rely on it for her happiness and can choose her own future much like his mother did.
  • Maya - An insecure girl coming from a repressive, religious household who's afraid to be herself, the MC can be a selfless friend to her in her time of need and show her unconditional affection which can not only boost her confidence but also make her feel that, even if she's lost the love of her parents, she can find others who will love and care for her and accept her for who she is.
  • Josy - A girl with a veneer of confidence but who is scared of losing those closest to her, most likely caused by unresolved feelings over her parents' divorce, the MC can be a calming voice that can help her to see that things aren't always as bad as they seem and can possibly help her to resolve these fears about being alone.
Other characters like Quinn, Riona, Camila, Jade, Cathy, Envy, and even the DIKs seem like they could benefit from the MC in some way too and that he is something of "hero" figure in this story.

Of course, DPC can easily pull this rug from under us like he did with AL, but it at least has this "saviour MC" feeling as of now.

I keep seeing this. Can you clarify where this has come from? Sorry but AL was no great shakes in my own opinion and...well..serious writer and porn games do not belong in the same sentence.

Not knocking anyone or anything, just curious as to where that saying keeps coming from. No 'serious writer' would write this rubbish in this section of the industry.
To be fair, DPC has never labeled themselves a "serious writer", that title has been bestowed upon them by the fans because AL dealt with some fairly gritty and hard-hitting themes that you don't normally see in adult VNs.

That's not to say they don't write well, because they do, but people will often take the "serious writer" title to mean that DPC is going to go down some very dark roads and really fuck with our emotions, which they could do of course, but they don't necessarily have to. Some writers stick to one genre of storytelling and other can span different genres, and I hope that DPC is the latter and won't turn this game into something similar to AL with a deeply tragic and hard-hitting finale, and instead give us something that is more upbeat and hopeful.

Next update this month?
No.

Seriously, what's with the sudden influx of "update when?" comments? Is this just what happens when a game hits the 2 month, post-update mark that people think this is when an update should arrive? :WaitWhat:
 
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I've always kind of felt that the MC is there to "save" certain, if not most, characters in this game and especially the main LIs because it feels like him being a part of their lives is helping them in some way.
  • Sage - In a one-sided relationship where she isn't being given the physical and emotional affection she needs, the MC can show her what it's like to have someone like that and that she deserves to have someone like that.
  • Bella - Suffering from some sort of emotional trauma which has caused her to shut herself off from people, the MC can break through that shell by being open, honest, and kind with her and will eventually help her to deal with this trauma which will help her to move on and be happy again.
  • Jill - A rich girl who seems somewhat trapped in her circumstances and feels that people are only ever interested in her because of who she is, the MC can show her that there are genuine people out there who aren't motivated by money and possibly show her that she doesn't have to rely on it for her happiness and can choose her own future much like his mother did.
  • Maya - An insecure girl coming from a repressive, religious household who's afraid to be herself, the MC can be a selfless friend to her in her time of need and show her unconditional affection which can not only boost her confidence but also make her feel that, even if she's lost the love of her parents, she can find others who will love and care for her and accept her for who she is.
  • Josy - A girl with a veneer of confidence but who is scared of losing those closest to her, most likely caused by unresolved feelings over her parents' divorce, the MC can be a calming voice that can help her to see that things aren't always as bad as they seem and can possibly help her to resolve these fears about being alone.
Other characters like Quinn, Riona, Camila, Jade, Cathy, Envy, and even the DIKs seem like they could benefit from the MC in some way too and that he is something of "hero" figure in this story.

Of course, DPC can easily pull this rug from under us like he did with AL, but it at least has this "saviour MC" feeling as of now.



To be fair, DPC has never labeled themselves a "serious writer", that title has been bestowed upon them by the fans because AL dealt with some fairly gritty and hard-hitting themes that you don't normally see in adult VNs.

That's not to say they don't write well, because they do, but people will often take the "serious writer" title to mean that DPC is going to go down some very dark roads and really fuck with our emotions, which they could do of course, but they don't necessarily have to. Some writers stick to one genre of storytelling and other can span different genres, and I hope that DPC is the latter and won't turn this game into something similar to AL with a deeply tragic and hard-hitting finale, and instead give us something that is more upbeat and hopeful.



No.

Seriously, what's with the sudden influx of "update when?" comments? Is this just what happens when a game hits the 2 month, post-update mark that people think this is when an update should arrive? :WaitWhat:
So you're saying that I should try to help all this girls... At the same time... Just out of selflessness, not that they are all crazy hot or anything. Just out of pure desire to help. We don't want all this girls to not solve their problems, right? :ROFLMAO:
 

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I've always kind of felt that the MC is there to "save" certain, if not most, characters in this game and especially the main LIs because it feels like him being a part of their lives is helping them in some way.
  • Sage - In a one-sided relationship where she isn't being given the physical and emotional affection she needs, the MC can show her what it's like to have someone like that and that she deserves to have someone like that.
  • Bella - Suffering from some sort of emotional trauma which has caused her to shut herself off from people, the MC can break through that shell by being open, honest, and kind with her and will eventually help her to deal with this trauma which will help her to move on and be happy again.
  • Jill - A rich girl who seems somewhat trapped in her circumstances and feels that people are only ever interested in her because of who she is, the MC can show her that there are genuine people out there who aren't motivated by money and possibly show her that she doesn't have to rely on it for her happiness and can choose her own future much like his mother did.
  • Maya - An insecure girl coming from a repressive, religious household who's afraid to be herself, the MC can be a selfless friend to her in her time of need and show her unconditional affection which can not only boost her confidence but also make her feel that, even if she's lost the love of her parents, she can find others who will love and care for her and accept her for who she is.
  • Josy - A girl with a veneer of confidence but who is scared of losing those closest to her, most likely caused by unresolved feelings over her parents' divorce, the MC can be a calming voice that can help her to see that things aren't always as bad as they seem and can possibly help her to resolve these fears about being alone.
Other characters like Quinn, Riona, Camila, Jade, Cathy, Envy, and even the DIKs seem like they could benefit from the MC in some way too and that he is something of "hero" figure in this story.

Of course, DPC can easily pull this rug from under us like he did with AL, but it at least has this "saviour MC" feeling as of now.
MC has this role of savior in every context, even with the DIKs.

his entire path seems to be at stake in the choice of who to help and until when

being the protagonist of the story all the dramas that will break out will fall on him (for now the only one directly linked to him is the letter from his mother), DPC for some of them will not make us choose, MC will have to be part of it, for others we will probably be able choose how much to get involved

in these choices the match between CHICK and DIK will be played
 

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I keep seeing this. Can you clarify where this has come from? Sorry but AL was no great shakes in my own opinion and...well..serious writer and porn games do not belong in the same sentence.

Not knocking anyone or anything, just curious as to where that saying keeps coming from, but generally serious and porn don't belong together and at the end of the day, this is a porn game, not an adult novel with some sex (neither which is taken 'seriously' in the literary industry, just pulp that sells well).
Taking your work seriously, writing serious things and being taken seriously are different things.

In terms of the adult VN genre DPC has two very popular games and 7000 Patreons. AL was a drama with sex. This is a Teen College comedy with sex. I think DPC takes his work seriously, he isn’t easily influenced by the fans. To my knowledge he has only produced two works. AL is generally well regarded For what it is and so is BaDIK. In terms of being taken seriously in the literary world, you’re right, but I don’t think anyone is suggesting he will be a NYT best seller. (Though BaDIK did hit top 20 on steam.

And you can disuade him of pursuing Camila... Does he mention it if you tell him not to go after her?

And no. Jill is not the MC's aunt. We've seen both Jill's sister and MC's mom. They are not the same person. Dates don't match either.

To be honest I don't remember. Maybe it was an AMA, from twitter or somewhere else. I don't remember where I took the quote from.

My bet is that he does AVNs because porn sells. Would this game had such following if it wasn't porn? Maybe it's the same that happened to Fate Stay Night. Back in that day it was unthinkable to have a VN without porn, and the few sex scenes felt shoehorned to fill a quota. I think something similar may be at play here.
Have we seen her sister? We’ve seen a picture of an unknown female character with a kid on her shoulders. Agree the timeline is questionable, and probably the biggest weakness of the theory. However Jill could have been 3 or 4 when her sister died. Which would be roughly right. Still I think that is probably the biggest where it will all fall down.

The MC booked grinding only, she probably charges extra for more (Quinn tried to make us pay more if you sell Camila out) but I bet she does.
I think Camilla said she would only do the Glory Holes. (Or was that Riona?). I’d guess your right that the logic is grinding is $2 $3 for bj $4 For sex and 4/5$ for threesome
 
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Have we seen her sister? We’ve seen a picture of an unknown female character with a kid on her shoulders. Agree the timeline is questionable, and probably the biggest weakness of the theory. However Jill could have been 3 or 4 when her sister died. Which would be roughly right. Still I think that is probably the biggest where it will all fall down.
I meant that polaroid, yeah. It's not the same person, and Jill it's too old, she looks like ten.
I think Camilla said she would only do the Glory Holes. (Or was that Riona?). I’d guess your right that the logic is grinding is $2 $3 for bj $4 For sex and 4/5$ for threesome
It was Camila, yeah. It seems she doesn't want to get a reputation. That's why I doubt she had anything with Tommy, but who knows.
 
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