VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

I'd say with this one it's pretty obvious.

Quinn mentions the deal with the Jocks to Riona in ep 3 and also in that ep we find out that the Jocks are under surveillance by the college after what Chad did, then Dawe shows up to speak to Quinn at the end of the episode. At the start of ep 4, Riona aska how things went with Dawe and she basically tells her it's bad news, then we definitively find out in ep 5 when Tommy confronts Quinn that the Jocks have backed out of their deal with her.

Pretty easy to put all that together and realise that Dawe was there to discuss the deal for the birth control pills.

That considering it is about something we know and not about something else we don't. You may be right (totally or partially) or maybe not, but you usually take your theories for granted too easily. You can say that meeting could have been about something, but you can't possibly say it was about something.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

That considering it is about something we know and not about something else we don't. You may be right (totally or partially) or maybe not, but you usually take your theories for granted too easily. You can say that meeting could have been about something, but you can't possibly say it was about something.

The difference with this one and other theories/hypotheses I have is that, while those others are about coming up with plausible assumptions based on 1 or 2 little hints, the Dawe/Quinn conversation has 4 fairly conclusive pieces of evidence that what they talked about was most definitely the deal for the pills. Saying that it wasn't or that they also discussed a plan to leak the Cathy pic on the DIKs account is what is, in this instance, a theory that's totally out of left field and not backed up by anything.

I still view Quinn as a prime suspect for the Cathy pic though, but I don't believe she will have conspired with the Jocks to do it if it was her doing. More likely I see it as Quinn unilaterally deciding to do it thinking that by getting the DIKs in trouble it would take some of the heat of the Jocks and she could try to persuade Dawe to make good on their previous deal.

 

[Ilhares]

Not including Arieth STD's are practically non-existent in this game even though a lot of the characters are having unprotected sex with each other and a few are even needle sharing with one another.

I can't speak to needle use, that's never been my thing - but in my younger days (call it 16-25) I got passed around with a lot of partners. Far more than MC has dealt with, and most of it equally unprotected. Young and dumb, but apparently lucky. Ended up with Arieth's problem once, and knew exactly where it had come from. The testing I underwent following that left me with two important pieces of information.

1. Finding out you're clean is a very good bit of relief (esp. when a few formers were not)
2. I ain't letting anybody near my junk with a cotton swab again, they'll get stabbed.

 

[xsssssssss]

I don’t buy this Quinn as Cathy pic culprit theory.

 

[always86]

The difference with this one and other theories/hypotheses I have is that, while those others are about coming up with plausible assumptions based on 1 or 2 little hints, the Dawe/Quinn conversation has 4 fairly conclusive pieces of evidence that what they talked about was most definitely the deal for the pills. Saying that it wasn't or that they also discussed a plan to leak the Cathy pic on the DIKs account is what is, in this instance, a theory that's totally out of left field and not backed up by anything.

I still view Quinn as a prime suspect for the Cathy pic though, but I don't believe she will have conspired with the Jocks to do it if it was her doing. More likely I see it as Quinn unilaterally deciding to do it thinking that by getting the DIKs in trouble it would take some of the heat of the Jocks and she could try to persuade Dawe to make good on their previous deal.

I'm fairly certain it was Quinn though I think it had to be in order to get in the DiKs safe. It's just too coindental that the safe was uncovered.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

The difference with this one and other theories/hypotheses I have is that, while those others are about coming up with plausible assumptions based on 1 or 2 little hints, the Dawe/Quinn conversation has 4 fairly conclusive pieces of evidence that what they talked about was most definitely the deal for the pills. Saying that it wasn't or that they also discussed a plan to leak the Cathy pic on the DIKs account is what is, in this instance, a theory that's totally out of left field and not backed up by anything.

I still view Quinn as a prime suspect for the Cathy pic though, but I don't believe she will have conspired with the Jocks to do it if it was her doing. More likely I see it as Quinn unilaterally deciding to do it thinking that by getting the DIKs in trouble it would take some of the heat of the Jocks and she could try to persuade Dawe to make good on their previous deal.

Guesses, even well substantiated guesses are just that, guesses. We are just a piece of evidence away of all the pieces fitting in some other way. Red herrings are a thing. I'm not saying your theory is wrong, I'm saying you shouldn't treat is as if they were facts.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

Yeah, but if you can rock that giant mountain of muscle that is Caleb ..... what hope does Tommy have really .... unless he's a dirty fighter, didn't Dawe even kick his ass? Wasn't sure if it was just a straight fight with those two or if the other jocks piled in to beat Tommy? It wasn't clear to me.

Tommy got jumped

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Guesses, even well substantiated guesses are just that, guesses. We are just a piece of evidence away of all the pieces fitting in some other way. Red herrings are a thing. I'm not saying your theory is wrong, I'm saying you shouldn't treat is as if they were facts.

Quinn has a deal to sell pills to the Jocks, the Jocks get put under surveillance after the Chad incident, Dawe comes to see Quinn shortly after finding out they're under surveillance, Quinn tells Riona and Tommy the deal with the Jocks is off.

So, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

Tommy got jumped
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Yeah i know that, i remember that part. But that particular image doesn't convey what i would call being "jumped". Was Dawe the only one of them to take a shot or did they all pile on? That's what i meant. - Actually .... holy shit, i've seen that screen twice playing through and knew Troy was a jock (former) but that's the first time i've actually noticed him in that pic! lol

 

[Lightaces]

Yeah i know that, i remember that part. But that particular image doesn't convey what i would call being "jumped". Was Dawe the only one of them to take a shot or did they all pile on? That's what i meant. - Actually .... holy shit, i've seen that screen twice playing through and knew Troy was a jock (former) but that's the first time i've actually noticed him in that pic! lol

I mean, when they jump the MC for talking to Sage, they do it as a group, so that does seem like their M.O. Then again, Chad went solo after the pictures.

 

[Diavel]

Tommy got jumped
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What and where be this from?

 

[phill_leotardo]

Tommy got jumped
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I just noticed the guy on the most right is the dude the MC shares the room with, in the beginning of the game. It looks like somebody got kicked from the band, ha ha.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Quinn has a deal to sell pills to the Jocks, the Jocks get put under surveillance after the Chad incident, Dawe comes to see Quinn shortly after finding out they're under surveillance, Quinn tells Riona and Tommy the deal with the Jocks is off.

So, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

" I'm not saying your theory is wrong, I'm saying you shouldn't treat is as if they were facts. "
That sums my point, we're going in circles now.

I just noticed the guy on the most right is the dude the MC shares the room with, in the beginning of the game. It looks like somebody got kicked from the band, ha ha.

We knew he was one of them, but I didn't notice he was there in that pice. Nice one.

He seems to be in the Dark Brotherhood too .

 

[n0cn1l]

Quinn has a deal to sell pills to the Jocks, the Jocks get put under surveillance after the Chad incident, Dawe comes to see Quinn shortly after finding out they're under surveillance, Quinn tells Riona and Tommy the deal with the Jocks is off.

So, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

In this case is probably a monkey then . Quinn has no reason to fuck up the DIKs like that, she likes them....messing up with a teacher can get people expelled budy not only that the fraternity could end. If she wanted to lose the heat on the Jocks all she had to do was use her prostitution ring, like she used mona and ask stephen(?) nicely. IF and that is a big IF she did, it wasn't to lose heat.

PS. I don't remember Jade's husband name...stephen, steve, whatever the fuck his name is

 

[lemonfreak]

In this case is probably a monkey then . Quinn has no reason to fuck up the DIKs like that, she likes them....messing up with a teacher can get people expelled budy not only that the fraternity could end. If she wanted to lose the heat on the Jocks all she had to do was use her prostitution ring, like she used mona and ask stephen(?) nicely. IF and that is a big IF she did, it wasn't to lose heat.

PS. I don't remember Jade's husband name...stephen, steve, whatever the fuck his name is

Stephen, not to be confused with Steve who is the son of the owner of the convenience store MC and Josy worked at.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

" I'm not saying your theory is wrong, I'm saying you shouldn't treat is as if they were facts. "
That sums my point, we're going in circles now.

And yet those are prety clear cut facts that form a pretty solid conclusion. Hard to call it a theory when the evidence is clear as day.

In this case is probably a monkey then . Quinn has no reason to fuck up the DIKs like that, she likes them....messing up with a teacher can get people expelled budy not only that the fraternity could end. If she wanted to lose the heat on the Jocks all she had to do was use her prostitution ring, like she used mona and ask stephen(?) nicely. IF and that is a big IF she did, it wasn't to lose heat.

That's a separate issue. Quinn being responsible for the pic leak is a theory, but what we're talking about here is that Quinn had a deal to sell pills to the Jocks and Dawe cancelled it once the Jocks got put under surveillance after the Chad incident and that's why he showed up at Quinn's room.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

And yet those are prety clear cut facts that form a pretty solid conclusion. Hard to call it a theory when the evidence is clear as day.

You CAN'T be 100% of what Dawe and Quinn talked about that night. That's not debatable. Even if your guess is correct you can't know 100% it is right now. Red herrings exist.

 

[Toncsy]

Send me please cheat mode. How to install and how to use?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

You CAN'T be 100% of what Dawe and Quinn talked about that night. That's not debatable. Even if your guess is correct you can't know 100% it is right now. Red herrings exist.

> Quinn has deal with Dawe/Jocks
> Dawe meets with Quinn in her room
> The very next day, the deal is off.

How is any of that debatable? It's an open and shut case. All of these points are verified by the game itself. The only thing that's debatable is if they discussed anything else, but why would they? Their business has been concluded and there's nothing left to discuss, least of all conspiring to leak a picture of Cathy as Jill Royce was implying.

 

[ename144]

Fair. I wasn't a huge fan of the 'fatal attraction' thing in AL, but I thought 'the choice' and the whole cancer storyline were done fairly well. To each their own, though.

That said... I think it's a bit strange to see people saying in previous pages in this thread that they'll be upset if BaDIK takes a dark turn. I mean, the game STARTS with a 'if you're in a dark place, don't play this!" disclaimer. Things are obviously going to get dark at some point. I don't know if it'll be 'crazy killer' AL dark or 'My Name is Luna' levels of dark, but it wouldn't surprise me.

For what it's worth, I thought Liam's cancer plot was very well handled. If BaDIK can pull off that level of dark, I don't think I'll object. Unfortunately, while serious, that's not really the dark part of AL. Hence my concern.