VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

He is a deity so royal 'we' is in order.
Personally i do hope there's some serious drama awaiting us and I don't agree with him about the game's different tone and feel from AL, because at this stage of development (chapter 4-5) both games were quite lighthearted. Obviously BaDIK shows more crazy stuff due to all the frat things, but AL's dark turn came a bit later

in AL's first half hour of play, MC ends up in a coma in the hospital following a robbery

it's not really a party

however, I agree with the meaning of your post: there are already many dark clouds on the horizon

if BADIK were a TV show once the drug topic was included I would 100% expect someone to end up in hospital at least if not worse, will it get better? could be

as there are many more LIs (5 + 1 against 4-1) there will certainly be more sentimental drama, but the low blows will not be lacking.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Acting lessons starts with the MC being beaten in to a coma. I forget when the cancer is revealed not to mention the physical abusive father plus the stuff that happens in the late game. BaDiK will need some pretty sudden and harsh consequences to match that.

we have the abusive father here too, if we don't know more psychological than physical, but it doesn't make much difference

drugs and prostitution in college, financial difficulties, beatings ...

leaving aside all the hypotheses of catastrophes that could be unleashed

and from the sentimental point of view more than half of AL is a walk by the seaside compared to this first part of BADIK

 

[AX90FENRIR]

guys, I played the 0.5.0, is the last update a content one or is just a bug fixes?

 

[moskyx]

we have the abusive father here too, if we don't know more psychological than physical, but it doesn't make much difference

drugs and prostitution in college, financial difficulties, beatings ...

leaving aside all the hypotheses of catastrophes that could be unleashed

and from the sentimental point of view more than half of AL is a walk by the seaside compared to this first part of BADIK

Exactly. AL's robbery is just an excuse to meet Megan and Leah. In BaDIK you're a bullyied guy who gets bullyied again on first day at college, then you have at least one big fight plus you're involved in several illegal activities (you break twice into preps mansion and once into HOT's to steal some panties, and those are just the unavoidable events), there's an abussive father too and a prostitution and drug dealing scheme running under your nose, but yeah, is all fun

 

[felicemastronzo]

Exactly. AL's robbery is just an excuse to meet Megan and Leah. In BaDIK you're a bullyied guy who gets bullyied again on first day at college, then you have at least one big fight plus you're involved in several illegal activities (you break twice into preps mansion and once into HOT's to steal some panties, and those are just the unavoidable events), there's an abussive father too and a prostitution and drug dealing scheme running under your nose, but yeah, is all fun

and I would emphasize the sentimental aspect

in BADIK the first two girls we know have a relationship between them from which 50% of the time we are excluded, in the other 50% we will be under constant scrutiny

in AL Meghan, when she finds out we are having an affair with her best friend, she offers MC the harem ...

 

[Meushi]

guys, I played the 0.5.0, is the last update a content one or is just a bug fixes?

Just bug fixes - see the Changelog in the OP.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Are you using the royal 'we'? Because otherwise, I think it's a little bold to be making that claim for all of us.

I for one hope there's at least a few big emotional moments, even if they don't go quite as dark as AL did. The big example is if Bella's story doesn't involve some kind of significant trauma, it's going to fall super flat with all the foreshadowing and buildup.

Both, I guess. I certainly don't want to see anything extremely tragic like the death of a LI or any other character and I know a lot of people don't want that either, so using the collective 'we' is kind of in-line with the general sentiment when it comes to something like this.

Exactly. AL's robbery is just an excuse to meet Megan and Leah. In BaDIK you're a bullyied guy who gets bullyied again on first day at college, then you have at least one big fight plus you're involved in several illegal activities (you break twice into preps mansion and once into HOT's to steal some panties, and those are just the unavoidable events), there's an abussive father too and a prostitution and drug dealing scheme running under your nose, but yeah, is all fun

It's funny when you put it that way, because we're always saying on this thread that this game has a much lighter tone and general subject matter than AL, but really it's started off much harsher than AL because of all these things. Things didn't really start to get heavy in AL until we met Melissa's step-Dad, and even then it just felt like other games with asshole guys who are usually harmless, until we see Melissa with a black eye and he attempts to rape Megan, at which point we realise this guy's more extreme than what you normally see in these games.

At the moment though with BaDIK, even though we have those issues of drugs, bullying, prostitution, etc, it frames it in a way that makes it feel like it's not a big deal, like these are issues that can easily be overcome as they are in many seriaised TV shows where the characters go through hard times but come out smelling like roses on the other side with few long-lasting consequences. But some shows don't shy away from showing a harsh reality and BaDIK may very well do the same, it's just a question of how it might do that and if it will do things differently from AL, i.e. no deaths or having to choose who lives or dies, but something that will still be gut-wrenching for players.

 

[always86]

Exactly. AL's robbery is just an excuse to meet Megan and Leah. In BaDIK you're a bullyied guy who gets bullyied again on first day at college, then you have at least one big fight plus you're involved in several illegal activities (you break twice into preps mansion and once into HOT's to steal some panties, and those are just the unavoidable events), there's an abussive father too and a prostitution and drug dealing scheme running under your nose, but yeah, is all fun

... You pick a fight with Chad because he is treating Sage like shit. Him and his buddies then come back at you. It’s not like they gave him a wedgie because he had the audacity to walk down the hall.

You have to remember this is a college comedy meets melodrama. One of the Breaking is a literal panty raid trope(see any college comedy in the 80s).

The abusive father isn’t (to our knowledge) beating Maya. The rejection of a gay daughter is straight out of a soap opera.

Besides the tone of the game is different. AL is a drama with funny bits. This is a comedy with dramatic bits. It could suddenly throw out the comedy and murder some characters give Derek AIDs and burn down the DiK mansion but honestly if it does it will be like walking the cliff edge for what it’s trying to be.

 

[moskyx]

Both, I guess. I certainly don't want to see anything extremely tragic like the death of a LI or any other character and I know a lot of people don't want that either, so using the collective 'we' is kind of in-line with the general sentiment when it comes to something like this.



It's funny when you put it that way, because we're always saying on this thread that this game has a much lighter tone and general subject matter than AL, but really it's started off much harsher than AL because of all these things. Things didn't really start to get heavy in AL until we met Melissa's step-Dad, and even then it just felt like other games with asshole guys who are usually harmless, until we see Melissa with a black eye and he attempts to rape Megan, at which point we realise this guy's more extreme than what you normally see in these games.

At the moment though with BaDIK, even though we have those issues of drugs, bullying, prostitution, etc, it frames it in a way that makes it feel like it's not a big deal, like these are issues that can easily be overcome as they are in many seriaised TV shows where the characters go through hard times but come out smelling like roses on the other side with few long-lasting consequences. But some shows don't shy away from showing a harsh reality and BaDIK may very well do the same, it's just a question of how it might do that and if it will do things differently from AL, i.e. no deaths or having to choose who lives or dies, but something that will still be gut-wrenching for players.

We'll see what happens. Actually, for me the hardest thing in AL was no THE CHOICE (in my first playthrough I didn't have the option to choose due to my prior actions), but all the mourning process that came after that event and the other one, and the way all your past actions shape MC's future life hinted at the end. I guess there's no need to kill a character to provoke those feelings in players, maybe just a harsh breakup or some serious letdown from a loving one is enough, but we'll see

 

[Holy Bacchus]

... You pick a fight with Chad because he is treating Sage like shit. Him and his buddies then come back at you. It’s not like they gave him a wedgie because he had the audacity to walk down the hall.

You have to remember this is a college comedy meets melodrama. One of the Breaking is a literal panty raid trope(see any college comedy in the 80s).

The abusive father isn’t (to our knowledge) beating Maya. The rejection of a gay daughter is straight out of a soap opera.

Besides the tone of the game is different. AL is a drama with funny bits. This is a comedy with dramatic bits. It could suddenly throw out the comedy and murder some characters give Derek AIDs and burn down the DiK mansion but honestly if it does it will be like walking the cliff edge for what it’s trying to be.

None of us really know what this is trying to be, we just know what we hope it will be. It might seem like it's a mix of American Pie and Animal House, but it also feels like there's some of This Is Us and Riverdale mixed in there as well, and while I'm sure most of us would like it to lean mostly towards the first 2, if it starts leaning more towards the latter 2 then we're going to see some really heavy shit.

We'll see what happens. Actually, for me the hardest thing in AL was no THE CHOICE (in my first playthrough I didn't have the option to choose due to my prior actions), but all the mourning process that came after that event and the other one, and the way all your past actions shape MC's future life hinted at the end. I guess there's no need to kill a character to provoke those feelings in players, maybe just a harsh breakup or some serious letdown from a loving one is enough, but we'll see

Yeah, the major character death is really the one thing I hope they don't do because that sort of thing often just sensationalises a story if it's done purely for the sake of creating drama and evoking strong emotions in the player/viewer in order to garner interest. This is what the death in AL did for DPC because it certainly raised the profile of that game, but they have so many people interested in this game on the merit of what it is right now that doing something like that again shouldn't be necessary.

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

for me the hardest thing in AL was no THE CHOICE (in my first playthrough I didn't have the option to choose due to my prior actions)

This is probably the entire reason for the affinity system. We only have so many choices to "Shape" our MC before things are taken out of our hands and we role as we played. I wasn't sure about the affinity choices on first play but i think it's a pretty cool system. Not all affinity choices make sense to me but it's still fun to play around with. I just wonder how big the fallout will be once the ability to choose is out of our hands as it might be frustrating to have to replay to get a desired outcome.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

and he attempts to rape Megan, at which point we realise this guy's more extreme than what you normally see in these games.

He did? I don't recall ever seeing this

 

[Holy Bacchus]

He did? I don't recall ever seeing this

I'm pretty sure that's what he threatens to do to her when he breaks in to the MC's home and, depending on previous choices, either Liam saves her or she manages to escape him.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

I'm pretty sure that's what he threatens to do to her when he breaks in to the MC's home and, depending on previous choices, either Liam saves her or she manages to escape him.

Wait, Melissa's step dad broke into MC's house? I need to replay AL lol

 

[always86]

I'm pretty sure that's what he threatens to do to her when he breaks in to the MC's home and, depending on previous choices, either Liam saves her or she manages to escape him.

Wait, Melissa's step dad broke into MC's house? I need to replay AL lol

That‘s the path I got, though I only played once as once you know the ending twist the appeal of playing again went away for me.

 

[felicemastronzo]

This is probably the entire reason for the affinity system. We only have so many choices to "Shape" our MC before things are taken out of our hands and we role as we played. I wasn't sure about the affinity choices on first play but i think it's a pretty cool system. Not all affinity choices make sense to me but it's still fun to play around with. I just wonder how big the fallout will be once the ability to choose is out of our hands as it might be frustrating to have to replay to get a desired outcome.

I hope this aspect is not so marked.

BADIK promises to be a very long game, having to replay it, forcibly again, to avoid dead ends could be quite frustrating

if I imagine a scene like the one with Maya and Josy at the end of the game it would be devastating

 

[BenMeiffert]

Hey guys, i really like AL even if my heart was crying, but the 2 lasts pages don't mention BaDIK...

 

[phill_leotardo]

He did? I don't recall ever seeing this

do you remember Police going over her house?

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

I hope this aspect is not so marked.

BADIK promises to be a very long game, having to replay it, forcibly again, to avoid dead ends could be quite frustrating

if I imagine a scene like the one with Maya and Josy at the end of the game it would be devastating

That was my worry also as since we're still quite early in the story you can already blow through a lot of the affinity points available. It may change or more may be added?

 

[Pewdiepie9966]

Then you must like this fan-art:

https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-fan-art.29960/post-4065094

Omg is it possible to fall in love with an image