VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

It comes down to your version of 'help' I guess. I'm looking at the MC, an 18 (maybe 19 by then) year old freshman and wondering just what help he can possibly provide.

What are his choices? We know he can fight so that's one possibility but one I don't see ending well since, unless he kills the dealers (which I can't see happening) then they're bound to come back armed.

He could encourage her to go to the police or He could take her to see Cathy/Jade who would do the same, with Jade also then having something more of Stephen should she need it.

Or he leaves her to sort out her own mess.

I think it's best not to imagine this in a real world context and imagine it more in the realm of fiction where it exists, a realm where ordinary people get dragged into extraordinary situations but somehow manage to sort their way out of it in exaggerated and often contrived ways.

Things like what Quinn is doing don't have easy solutions in the real world but they generally do in the fictional world, so whatever "help" the MC provides will work within the context of the story even if it does stretch the believability of how it could ever work in the real world.

 

[always86]

I personally think Bella might be Jill's Bio Mom, seeing she is so protective of her and influential in Jill's life. MC can't date without Bella's approval. I'm more interested in this story arc than any other due to the fact of Bella's Past and the locked room. I'm of the opinion that husband is MIA there doesn't seem to be any communication between the two of them. at the very least there would be Emails. SERIOUSLY can't wait to find out more. Such a great game so far.

On a off topic note ( Can't believe they never egged the preps)

I don’t think that will be the case as the ages don’t line up very well. (Plus some other things). We know Bella is around 36 (having attended Uni 18 years ago) we know Jill is around 21. That would have meant Bella was 14/15 when she got pregnant/ gave birth. Not impossible, but unlikely.

My prediction Jill‘s ’twist’ is that her sister committed suicide after a getting bullied.

My prediction Bella’s husband either left after the death of a kid or someone else has left. He is in some way responsible for the death. Possible he is MIA.

Jill and Bella met During a group trauma meeting.

 

[lemonfreak]

I think it's best not to imagine this in a real world context and imagine it more in the realm of fiction where it exists, a realm where ordinary people get dragged into extraordinary situations but somehow manage to sort their way out of it in exaggerated and often contrived ways.

Things like what Quinn is doing don't have easy solutions in the real world but they generally do in the fictional world, so whatever "help" the MC provides will work within the context of the story even if it does stretch the believability of how it could ever work in the real world.

There's a sentence (or extract of one) in need of context, by that arguement I could expect the MC to fix everything with the Infinity Gauntlet

That aside, I agree with you that, in fiction, exaggerations and contrivences are possible, for example, that Josy, a girl who clearly grew up in the same town as him and lived within cycling distance, would have a secret girlfriend who just happened to be one of the first people he met at B&R and, through a series off bizarre circumstances, just happened to end up living with. Nevertheless, there is a point at which a story goes too far and MC being in any way capable of solving Quinn's problems beyond what I already stated is it for me.

 

[ename144]

There's a sentence (or extract of one) in need of context, by that arguement I could expect the MC to fix everything with the Infinity Gauntlet

That aside, I agree with you that, in fiction, exaggerations and contrivences are possible, for example, that Josy, a girl who clearly grew up in the same town as him and lived within cycling distance, would have a secret girlfriend who just happened to be one of the first people he met at B&R and, through a series off bizarre circumstances, just happened to end up living with. Nevertheless, there is a point at which a story goes too far and MC being in any way capable of solving Quinn's problems beyond what I already stated is it for me.

I agree, but it's important to note that we don't really know the scope of Quinn's problems yet. That makes a big difference in how much help the MC could be in resolving them.

For example, if Quinn's shortage stems from the fact she's been siphoning off a lot of her drugs for her own use and is thus now behind on payments, the MC could plausibly help by getting Quinn sober and organizing a one-time concert/performance/bake sale/etc to clear her existing debts. That wouldn't solve the problems of drug use in general, but it would mean the HOTs (and Quinn for those who care about her specifically) are no longer on a slippery slope.

On the other hand, if Quinn is desperate for the money because low-level organized crime is leaning on her and/or the HOTs and her 'debt' is part of their racket, suddenly it's a lot harder for the MC to fix these problems. Even if he cleared the current debt, those manipulating Quinn would just take that as a sign to increase their demands. In this scenario, the MC would need to address the problem of organized crime itself, which seems significantly beyond his skill set. (Although an Anti-Drug PSA mini-game would be hilarious!)

Episode 6 continues to tantalize us with potential answers to some of these long standing questions, so hopefully we will finally be in a position to evaluate this sort of thing 'soon.'

 

[TheAnimence8]

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[Holy Bacchus]

On the other hand, if Quinn is desperate for the money because low-level organized crime is leaning on her and/or the HOTs and her 'debt' is part of their racket, suddenly it's a lot harder for the MC to fix these problems. Even if he cleared the current debt, those manipulating Quinn would just take that as a sign to increase their demands. In this scenario, the MC would need to address the problem of organized crime itself, which seems significantly beyond his skill set. (Although an Anti-Drug PSA mini-game would be hilarious!)

To me, this would be no different than if the same scenario were to play in some 'college-comedy-romp' movie. Sure, it might seem like it would be impossible for one person, especially a 19 year old college student, to bring down a small-time drug dealer and his cohorts, but he will and whilst it might seem crazy and contrived yet conveniently works out for them, your mind just accepts it because we're not watching something that's meant to be ground in total, 100% reality.

So many stories are about a character who's out of their depth and encountering things that should be beyond their skill set, but they succeed anyway despite these shortcomings. Why? Because it's supposed to work out for them in a way that neatly wraps things up.

 

[lemonfreak]

To me, this would be no different than if the same scenario were to play in some 'college-comedy-romp' movie. Sure, it might seem like it would be impossible for one person, especially a 19 year old college student, to bring down a small-time drug dealer and his cohorts, but he will and whilst it might seem crazy and contrived yet conveniently works out for them, your mind just accepts it because we're not watching something that's meant to be ground in total, 100% reality.

So many stories are about a character who's out of their depth and encountering things that should be beyond their skill set, but they succeed anyway despite these shortcomings. Why? Because it's supposed to work out for them in a way that neatly wraps things up.

He will, will he? Are you admitting that you're DPC under an alt?

I might be willing to accept this from the MC if Quinn was an LI but, as she has never once appeared in the end of chapter summaries it is only logical to treat her as a side girl, the most important side girl maybe, but a side girl nontheless and a good person to waste a potentially immersion breaking plot contrivence on.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

He will, will he? Are you admitting that you're DPC under an alt?

I might be willing to accept this from the MC if Quinn was an LI but, as she has never once appeared in the end of chapter summaries it is only logical to treat her as a side girl, the most important side girl maybe, but a side girl nontheless and a good person to waste a potentially immersion breaking plot contrivence on.

I was speaking in terms of if this were a movie where the same sort of thing were to happen, and since you can very much expect the protagonist of that hypothetical movie will end up resolving the situation, then I feel we can reasonably expect the MC of this game to be able to do the same if he does indeed get drawn into it.

For me, the thing that's going on with Quinn has always been the real story of this game. It may seem like it's just an intriguing side story that we can opt out of, but it feels more likely to me that it will soon have far-reaching ramifications that will affect characters who are more closely connected to the MC and thus drag him into it. So, in order to help them, he'd have to help Quinn and this is where I personally have always seen where this story is going.

 

[lemonfreak]

I was speaking in terms of if this were a movie where the same sort of thing were to happen, and since you can very much expect the protagonist of that hypothetical movie will end up resolving the situation, then I feel we can reasonably expect the MC of this game to be able to do the same if he does indeed get drawn into it.

For me, the thing that's going on with Quinn has always been the real story of this game. It may seem like an intriguing side story that we can opt out of it, but it feels more likely to me that it will soon have far-reaching ramifications that will affect characters who are more closely connected to the MC and thus drag him into it. So, in order to help them, he'd have to help Quinn and this is where I personally have always seen where this story is going.

Ah, I wasn't as clear as I meant to be. I agree that Quinn is important but in a different way than the 5 LIs, she's a catalyst for events. Her story may be the big story but that doesn't mean it's MC's story; his story seems only peripharally related to hers in that he's willing to pay her to bang a couple of students, all of whom will go on to give it up for free anyway and accept to smoke a little weed. That, by necessity, describes a number of students on campus (the restaurant would not be successful if MC and Burke are the only clients)

What I'm saying is that MC and Quinn's stories are intersected, not connected.

 

[Yamura]

Since we’re getting into conspiracy theories, does anyone think somehow the Dean is involved in the drug/prostitution ring? Seems like there was a scene at the snob frat house where he was walking out of a room and Our Hero goes in to see one of the girls crying.......

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Since we’re getting into conspiracy theories, does anyone think somehow the Dean is involved in the drug/prostitution ring? Seems like there was a scene at the snob frat house where he was walking out of a room and Our Hero goes in to see one of the girls crying.......

Burke isn't the Dean. He's essentially a glorified "

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" who, according to Jade, bought his position in the school's faculty.

And, no, he's probably not involved in the drug/prostiution ring, but it does seem like he knows of it and purchases services from Quinn.

 

[xsssssssss]

I agree, but it's important to note that we don't really know the scope of Quinn's problems yet. That makes a big difference in how much help the MC could be in resolving them.

For example, if Quinn's shortage stems from the fact she's been siphoning off a lot of her drugs for her own use and is thus now behind on payments, the MC could plausibly help by getting Quinn sober and organizing a one-time concert/performance/bake sale/etc to clear her existing debts. That wouldn't solve the problems of drug use in general, but it would mean the HOTs (and Quinn for those who care about her specifically) are no longer on a slippery slope.

On the other hand, if Quinn is desperate for the money because low-level organized crime is leaning on her and/or the HOTs and her 'debt' is part of their racket, suddenly it's a lot harder for the MC to fix these problems. Even if he cleared the current debt, those manipulating Quinn would just take that as a sign to increase their demands. In this scenario, the MC would need to address the problem of organized crime itself, which seems significantly beyond his skill set. (Although an Anti-Drug PSA mini-game would be hilarious!)

Episode 6 continues to tantalize us with potential answers to some of these long standing questions, so hopefully we will finally be in a position to evaluate this sort of thing 'soon.'

I don't really see episode 6 answers fundamental questions.
It's could set up potential physical consequences for when Quinn is going to be unable to pay next month. That's spomething there could be optional choice for us to help with either temporary physical protection or temporary help temporarily paying if we do come into some money.
I still think the wider shortage and her wider problems is going to be linked with a central plot and probably an antagonist we'll have to get involved with dealing with anyway

 

[Canto Forte]

She is the freak in the bed .. there are no limits to how kinky or devoted she can get to stroke her desire!

physical consequences

Anyways ... MC is this krak my GAAAaaaaAAAA all around mma wanna be to trump all assailants.

probably an antagonist

MC has already tangoed with a whole house full of dastadly anti heroes ready to submit to his brand of retribution!

 

[DeFuZe]

when is the next update

When the name of this thread changes from Being a DIK [v0.5.2] [Dr PinkCake to Being a DIK [v0.6.0] [Dr PinkCake

 

[Asufake]

When the name of this thread changes from Being a DIK [v0.5.2] [Dr PinkCake to Being a DIK [v0.6.0] [Dr PinkCake

Not bad

 

[Amansas]

OK... one question before i download....is the story better or worse than Acting Lessons, for now, at least?

 

[Canto Forte]

the story better

How does Van Wilder work 4 you? be the green lantern and go wild on them babes!

 

[Vollezar]

OK... one question before i download....is the story better or worse than Acting Lessons, for now, at least?

The story is very good.

 

[lemonfreak]

OK... one question before i download....is the story better or worse than Acting Lessons, for now, at least?

I think he's improved as a writer since AL (which we should expect from any writer) but, since it's incomplete, it's hard to say as he may have an house fire level event planned which, to us, comes out of nowhere.

There is one event which many people don't see coming and hate as a result but which is actually well seeded but has many of the clues locked to one path and not the other.

 

[Amansas]

I think he's improved as a writer since AL (which we should expect from any writer) but, since it's incomplete, it's hard to say as he may have an house fire level event planned which, to us, comes out of nowhere.

There is one event which many people don't see coming and hate as a result but which is actually well seeded but has many of the clues locked to one path and not the other.

Please... don't remind me of the house fire, I literally got over it 2 hours ago... but thanks, nonetheless