Holy Bacchus

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You assume the NTR police are rational, thoughtful human beings. They are, at best, only 1 of those 3 things.

;)

That said... F-F scenes generally don't trigger much noise in that regard. Mr Dots loves to to have the LIs mess around with each other (often without the MC's knowledge) and there's typically few complaints about it.
That's because there's the understanding that these girls are all totally infatuated with the MC and aren't going to leave him to be with each other. This is why F/F scenes like that are generally accepted by those who would normally scream "NTR!" at other games where the LIs do things with others.

With this game, there's a chance things might not work out given that the relationship didn't start with him and he's the one entering an already established relationship. The MC might be fine with it, or at least seem fine with it, but it would be natural to have some slight feelings of trepidation and to feel slightly uncomfortable seeing them share an intimate moment. Over time, once the relationship between all the 3 of them grows to where it feels that the MC is on a more even footing in terms of their depth of feeling for him, then it becomes less of a concern.
 

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I don't really know about you guys, but I get the feeling that Jill is probably Bella's husband's sister. After playing the 5th episode there is a scene where MC tries to open a door and its locked (possibly her husband's room). After MC mentions that to Jill she tries the door the next morning to find it is locked. Bella and Jill seem close but they don't seem like best friends at least to me it did not feel like that. This is pure speculation on my part.
 
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I don't really know about you guys, but I get the feeling that Jill is probably Bella's husband's sister. After playing the 5th episode there is a scene where MC tries to open a door and its locked (possibly her husband's room). After MC mentions that to Jill she tries the door the next morning to find it is locked. Bella and Jill seem close but they don't seem like best friends at least to me it did not feel like that. This is pure speculation on my part.
Jill only ever had a sister. No brothers.
 
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I thought that was hilarious when I got to that part.
I'm really curious how he's gonna manage the love triangle between those two with MC. I would like a sort of threeway relationship with them but don't see DPC being that generous which makes me wonder how he's gonna go about handling it in the future.
Ya, during my playthrough I checked out the scene with Bella in the sauna just to see it, but re-loaded my previous save to opt out just because I wouldn't have actually chosen to pursue it IRL because of Jill. It's so "uncomfortable" - even when MC is just sitting in the sauna with her, it just feels really wrong because my character is going after Jill pretty heavily so it just feels like a douchebag move when Jill seems so nice and innocent that you're potentially fucking around with her best friend, so I am trying to opt out for now with Bella unless something changes where Jill ticks me off or Bella actually starts smiling and acting a little more warm toward MC.
 

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In which update do you guys think we'll be once this thread reaches the 10000 pages?
The thread has gone up 1000 pages since the last update and if each update does the same then it probably won't be until we get to about episode 11 or 12. That's assuming of course that people continue to engage with this thread as much once things start getting revealed and there's less to theorise about, but then the conversation will shift to discussing what has happened and what people think of it all, so maybe it's possible.
 

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That's because there's the understanding that these girls are all totally infatuated with the MC and aren't going to leave him to be with each other. This is why F/F scenes like that are generally accepted by those who would normally scream "NTR!" at other games where the LIs do things with others.

With this game, there's a chance things might not work out given that the relationship didn't start with him and he's the one entering an already established relationship. The MC might be fine with it, or at least seem fine with it, but it would be natural to have some slight feelings of trepidation and to feel slightly uncomfortable seeing them share an intimate moment. Over time, once the relationship between all the 3 of them grows to where it feels that the MC is on a more even footing in terms of their depth of feeling for him, then it becomes less of a concern.
That makes some sense. It wouldn't bother me at all, but I can see the difference you're referring to with M+J's relationship.
 

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That makes some sense. It wouldn't bother me at all, but I can see the difference you're referring to with M+J's relationship.
It's just one of those things in any relationship where you want to feel like you have a person's complete love and affection and when you don't think you have that then it creates doubts and makes you worry about losing them, which can in turn damage the relationship. M&J would seem to have complete love and affection for each other and they're certainly attracted to the MC, but it doesn't yet feel like he's an equal part of the relationship, that they feel as strongly for him as they feel for each other and that's what needs to develop and is what we need to see.

We know where M&J stand with each other so we don't necessarily need to see them alone, without the MC, sharing an intimate moment. We need to see them do that with MC, both on an individual basis and with the 3 of them together to show how those relationships are developing.

It's expressions like that that really make me want to save Quinn. :cry:

She's a diamond in the rough and just needs her own street rat to pull her out of her dark cave.
 

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Speaking about Quinn and her troubles I wonder if or how it'll effect the HOT's Hell Week and if M&J will make it. I'm hoping Sage will start to catch wind of the activities Quinn does behind her back. Sage is gonna wanna know what has Quinn looking so down abd she won't be able to hide her emotions forever.
 
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Melissa was from a broken home with an abusive father and as such she didn't really trust easily, especially men. But the MC treated her with so much kindness and affection that he broke the wall she had built up around herself and made her feel loved. It's certainly very different from what I imagine Bella's going through, but they both have those walls built around themselves where they keep others at arms length and only have one really close friend.

That close friend is also someone who wants the best for them, even if it comes at the cost of their own happiness. Megan knew there was a chance the 2 of them might grow closer and leave her out, but she took the risk because of what this meant for Melissa. Jill is also someone who's very selfless and knows what Bella's been through, so I could see her making the same decision. But, this is where the possible intimacy comes into play.

Whatever happened does seem to be affecting Bella more than Jill so perhaps Jill enjoyed it/doesn't feel all that bad about it. So perhaps both the MC and Jill can help her out; the MC will help her through the issues that ar holding her back and Jill will help to accept what happened between them and maybe even be OK with doing it again.

Yes, it would create another possible threesome, but maybe that's the point. AL had one and destroyed it, so maybe this game could have have 2 possible threesome paths to make up for that and it will eventually make players choose which one they want to be with. :unsure: That, to me, would be a really tough decision, almost as tough as the AL fire just without the death and tragedy.
It's not just that it's another threesome, it's that they seem to be covering the same ground. We already have the MC helping a reluctant girl out of her shell via the magic of sex (with Maya). We definitely have the worry about losing the MC to the other girl (from the picnic scene, and definitely from Josy's talk on in her room on the friendship path).

Other than Bella's enormous assets, what would make this trio stand out from the other one? In theory Bella and Jill could be a more public one (compared to Maya and Josy being secret), but that seems highly unlikely given Bella is a teacher.

The only group dynamic I can see that MIGHT work would be for Bella to be an optional add on to the Jill relationship. So whereas Maya & Josy & the MC are in a set of three equal relationships, Bella is in more of a FWB role to Jill and the MC. I still think that would be a stretch, but I could see it happening if Bella eventually comes around on casual sex with the MC and Jill is comfortable fooling around with Bella.

[EDIT: To be clear, I think there would also be a dedicated Bella option as well for those who turn down Jill. Just that if the MC pursues both Jill and Bella, Bella would always be the third wheel in the eventual arrangement.]

But I can't see permanent sharing. Jill just doesn't seem the type to accept that sort of instability, and unlike Maya/Josy she clearly does not feel that way about Bella already. (Needing to hide things on account of Bella's job just makes it that much harder to swallow.)


It's just one of those things in any relationship where you want to feel like you have a person's complete love and affection and when you don't think you have that then it creates doubts and makes you worry about losing them, which can in turn damage the relationship. M&J would seem to have complete love and affection for each other and they're certainly attracted to the MC, but it doesn't yet feel like he's an equal part of the relationship, that they feel as strongly for him as they feel for each other and that's what needs to develop and is what we need to see.

We know where M&J stand with each other so we don't necessarily need to see them alone, without the MC, sharing an intimate moment. We need to see them do that with MC, both on an individual basis and with the 3 of them together to show how those relationships are developing.
I understand your concerns, and I don't think we need to see any of the lurid details anytime soon (or at all, really).

But I disagree that we don't need to see some G-rated affection between the two. We know Maya and Josy nearly broke up over the MC before the big reveal, and I think we all agree that the resolution to that particular drama lefty a lot of string dangling. Just because the two say they love each other, it's not a given that all is well between them.

This is especially important if, as we all suspect, it will eventually be possible to pursue a relationship with Maya or Josy individually. That would require the two break up for good, whether or not the MC has anything more to do with it. If there is going to be a viable relationship between the trio, the player needs to see the contrast between how Maya and Josy treat each other in a healthy triad vs how they act in as a doomed couple.

Otherwise, the specter of what happens in one path will wind up haunting what happens in the other. No matter what the game says, it will come across less as an equal partnership between the tree and more as micro harem. (And if the path to dating just one of the girls is via turning down something more. If the long term prospects for the triad hinge on player actions, showing the difference becomes absolutely imperative!)

So while I agree that the player should not feel jealous of the two, it is important to illustrate that Maya and Josy really do love each other. It doesn't have to happen all at once, and it doesn't have to be a massive display of affection. But it is an important part of the puzzle that needs to be addressed as things develop.

This is all, of course, assuming there *is* going to be a happy M/J/MC ending. If this is all a tease then not showing a healthy relationship between Maya and Josy is not only not required, it may be part of the point. In that case... well, screw you too, DPC! :mad:
 

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Looking at all these posts of feeling uncomfortable being with Bella after hard focussing on Jill...meanwhile in my playthrough I'm just being a hardcore man-slut lmao, being nice and going after everyone.
I've been a man-whore too, going after as many as I can get, but there's still some attachments there to certain characters that will make future decisions really damn hard. :cry:

Speaking about Quinn and her troubles I wonder if or how it'll effect the HOT's Hell Week and if M&J will make it. I'm hoping Sage will start to catch wind of the activities Quinn does behind her back. Sage is gonna wanna know what has Quinn looking so down and she won't be able to hide her emotions forever.
I feel it might still be too early to see the effects on the HOTs. Thngs have so far been moving at a record pace and I feel like her operation crumbling after just a couple of weeks after having, presumably, been running it fairly well for at least a year, if not more, seems like a little too quick. But then again, I didn't think we'd see the MC's birthday until ep 8, so things might just move that fast. :ROFLMAO:

I'd like to think that M&J wil make it (mainly because I want to see them in their HOT uniforms :love:), but them not getting in would create quite a bit of drama, and drama is what this game is all about. ;)
 
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