VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

Well, when you enjoy playing the degenerate man-whore in games like this where the MC can have all or as many women as possible, a decision like this would be tough especially when it's between 2 of the best.



The thing is that both events do seem like they fit in to each side of the DIK/CHICK scale. Having a date with Jill in a grassy field while eating ice cream is most certainly what a CHICK MC would do, and ditching Jill to go drink at a bar with his frat brother and a stripper is most certainly what a DIK MC would do. So it being a choice would make sense if that's what this were to be.

I hope it isn't because I want to be able to do both, but I can see how it could be a consequential choice.

we can get to a new date with Jill as both DIK and CHICK, the important thing is that we continued to care for her.

if instead we dumped her after the appointment at the tennis club, the scene would make little sense...

 

[ename144]

Cockblocked? Maybe.

Tommy secretly taking a picture of the MC making out with Jill, or maybe even Jill topless, and then posting it on social media under a fake account which will cause jealousy and drama with Maya, Josy, and Sage, and cause scandal for Jill if she were to be partly or even fully nude? Yes, I can definitely see that happening.

Why would Tommy do anything like that?

Even if he's furious at the PC (which I doubt), that seems like it would just be giving the MC bragging points. Tommy has no issue with Jill, and he doesn't even know the MC has a girlfriend to get jealous over this. Plus, he's been encouraging when the MC was trying to score in the past (with Sage or Bella). Even learning the MC fucked Quinn didn't seem to bother Tommy much; he was far more upset the HOTs weren't there to give the MC his prize.

I really don't think Tommy hates the MC a fraction as much as some players hate Tommy.

The thing is that both events do seem like they fit in to each side of the DIK/CHICK scale. Having a date with Jill in a grassy field while eating ice cream is most certainly what a CHICK MC would do, and ditching Jill to go drink at a bar with his frat brother and a stripper is most certainly what a DIK MC would do. So it being a choice would make sense if that's what this were to be.

I hope it isn't because I want to be able to do both, but I can see how it could be a consequential choice.

That's definitely a more plausible concern. It could represent another mandatory fork between content (like Maya & Josy closing off Jade or Cathy), which would be interesting. And it is a good illustration of DIK/CHICK behavior. (Though it would be unexpected to make this a mandatory decision and it feels way too trivial to qualify as a Major Decision.)

But Jill's date clearly happens during the day. Why would Nicole be hanging around in a bar at that hour? Also, since Tommy is wearing a shirt and not his jacket, this can't be as simple as "ditch Jill to walk into a bar."

I think we're just trying to fit these two events together because they're among the few jigsaw pieces we've seen so far. We notice they're the same color and ignore that they're different shapes.

So you're probably worrying over nothing. Probably.

 

[Kuraii]

They're not in the HOTs yet. They still have the challenges to complete, including the threesome.

I'm impatient for that.

 

[Jill Royce Lover]

I'm impatient for that.

Yeah me too

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Why would Tommy do anything like that?

Even if he's furious at the PC (which I doubt), that seems like it would just be giving the MC bragging points. Tommy has no issue with Jill, and he doesn't even know the MC has a girlfriend to get jealous over this. Plus, he's been encouraging when the MC was trying to score in the past (with Sage or Bella). Even learning the MC fucked Quinn didn't seem to bother Tommy much; he was far more upset the HOTs weren't there to give the MC his prize.

I really don't think Tommy hates the MC a fraction as much as some players hate Tommy.

Unless things transpire in the episode that cause the rift that started in Ep 5 to deepen and he wants to screw with the MC. Yes, it could give the MC bragging rights to be seen with Jill, but it's about how this would affect Jill if those pics were to get out, especially if she were to be in a state of undress, like being topless, then it would affect her deeply and by extension the MC. It's like the Fappening where all those celeb pics got leaked; it would devastate Jill to have those pics get out but it could also mess with the MC for the extra attention he'd receive as a result. People might want to give him high fives but he won't want them (at least on the CHICK side) and it would put a strain on his relationship with Jill.

It could also cause issues with his other relationships, even if Tommy doesn't know about them, but moreso if Tommy does find out about 1 or 2 of them and knows that this would mess those up too.

That's definitely a more plausible concern. It could represent another mandatory fork between content (like Maya & Josy closing off Jade or Cathy), which would be interesting. And it is a good illustration of DIK/CHICK behavior. (Though it would be unexpected to make this a mandatory decision and it feels way too trivial to qualify as a Major Decision.)

But Jill's date clearly happens during the day. Why would Nicole be hanging around in a bar at that hour? Also, since Tommy is wearing a shirt and not his jacket, this can't be as simple as "ditch Jill to walk into a bar."

I think we're just trying to fit these two events together because they're among the few jigsaw pieces we've seen so far. We notice they're the same color and ignore that they're different shapes.

So you're probably worrying over nothing. Probably.

They're at different times of day, but what if the Jill date is a time approaching sunset? The MC and Tommy (possibly other DIKs too) could have been at the bar for a few hours before Nicole shows up, at which point it is now dark.

I'm impatient for that.

So close...

 

[Jill Royce Lover]

I just saw this new game in this lockdown and started to get addicted to it. I completed the whole game within a week and waiting for the update impatiently.

 

[Kuraii]

Why would Tommy do anything like that?

Even if he's furious at the PC (which I doubt), that seems like it would just be giving the MC bragging points. Tommy has no issue with Jill, and he doesn't even know the MC has a girlfriend to get jealous over this. Plus, he's been encouraging when the MC was trying to score in the past (with Sage or Bella). Even learning the MC fucked Quinn didn't seem to bother Tommy much; he was far more upset the HOTs weren't there to give the MC his prize.

I really don't think Tommy hates the MC a fraction as much as some players hate Tommy.



That's definitely a more plausible concern. It could represent another mandatory fork between content (like Maya & Josy closing off Jade or Cathy), which would be interesting. And it is a good illustration of DIK/CHICK behavior. (Though it would be unexpected to make this a mandatory decision and it feels way too trivial to qualify as a Major Decision.)

But Jill's date clearly happens during the day. Why would Nicole be hanging around in a bar at that hour? Also, since Tommy is wearing a shirt and not his jacket, this can't be as simple as "ditch Jill to walk into a bar."

I think we're just trying to fit these two events together because they're among the few jigsaw pieces we've seen so far. We notice they're the same color and ignore that they're different shapes.

So you're probably worrying over nothing. Probably.

I agree. I sincerely believe that a second date with Jill does not have to be affected by something else or necessarily has to affect the affinity with an unnecessary decision. It would be a bit unfair.

 

[Black Swamp Ent.]

I can't listen to the song "all the pieces" without getting slightly choked up. Lol

 

[felicemastronzo]

I agree. I sincerely believe that a second date with Jill does not have to be affected by something else or necessarily has to affect the affinity with an unnecessary decision. It would be a bit unfair.

the only problem I see is that second date with Jill is not for all players. they may have already abandoned her before the sixth chapter. in that case would the scene with the ice cream in the green make sense? I don't know, a trick can always be found to make Jill and MC spend an afternoon together, but it would become a weak scene

while the part with Tommy is likely for all players.

these players (who will burn in hell) what will they see? directly Tommy leading them to drink? possible

 

[ThePresident451]

Cockblocked? Maybe.

Tommy secretly taking a picture of the MC making out with Jill, or maybe even Jill topless, and then posting it on social media under a fake account which will cause jealousy and drama with Maya, Josy, and Sage, and cause scandal for Jill if she were to be partly or even fully nude? Yes, I can definitely see that happening.

Nice fanfiction there

A picture of MC making out with Jill, how scandalous indeed, it might cause the closure of B&R

A picture of Jill topless: please tell me why someone like Jill who so far undresses only for shower would take off her dress in the middle of a forest Not happening, simple. Especially if we consider the wait that DPC is building, I doubt we'll do anything even remotely sexual with Jill in the open air for everyone to see.

 

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[Kuraii]

the only problem I see is that second date with Jill is not for all players. they may have already abandoned her before the sixth chapter. in that case would the scene with the ice cream in the green make sense? I don't know, a trick can always be found to make Jill and MC spend an afternoon together, but it would become a weak scene

while the part with Tommy is likely for all players.

these players (who will burn in hell) what will they see? directly Tommy leading them to drink? possible

Yes, it would be a weak and forced scene for those who are no longer interested in her. Maybe we should take it as an exclusive part for the CHICK affinity and for the DIK affinity if the player decided to continue the relationship.

 

[hellsgateee]

Why would Tommy do anything like that?

Even if he's furious at the PC (which I doubt), that seems like it would just be giving the MC bragging points. Tommy has no issue with Jill, and he doesn't even know the MC has a girlfriend to get jealous over this. Plus, he's been encouraging when the MC was trying to score in the past (with Sage or Bella). Even learning the MC fucked Quinn didn't seem to bother Tommy much; he was far more upset the HOTs weren't there to give the MC his prize.

I really don't think Tommy hates the MC a fraction as much as some players hate Tommy.

I agree with you on this. Guys, as far as what I've observed from the things written here, some of you are bashing Tommy a tad bit too much. Tommy is the DIK edge of the scale but that doesn't make him an evil character with no redeeming qualities. Remember how he reacted when MC kisses Sage on the DIK party. "We will have his back" he says. Yes, he is impulsive, not the most logical person, but he is the kind of guy that will bury a fist on your face if you do something that will upset him. Not a guy who will secretly take a photo of a girl you are making out/having sex with to post on Rooster. Even if, and that is a big if, MC and Jill does something and he sees it, he will most probably do what Jacob did: "Well done, I am proud of you, high five". Maybe a celebratory drink afterwards or an apology for accidental cockblocking. But my theory on what happens in that preview is we have a man-to-man talk with him after he walks away from the house when we make that Vinny-like speech. We will find him wherever that place is to talk things through and then later on we take Jill for a date to that spot on our birthday.

 

[Black Swamp Ent.]

Yeah, despite Tommy being a bit rough around the edges, I don't see him being the type to scheme like that. Specially against a fellow DIK, he seems to really take the creed to heart.

 

[TotoJackson]

I read it should be like mid-late october, maybe.

Also, anyone got the name of the song that goes 'there's only one of us and this is the end'? The one for the fights. That shit started ringing in my head during work and it's driving me insane (i'm also too lazy to just press download, wait 10 minutes and check)

Don't know if anyone has replied, but it's called Food Chain, by Sean Danielsen.

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Edit: Just saw someone did. Well, enjoy another link!

 

[felicemastronzo]

According to this theory we will be left with Sage as the only LI we can pursue on DIK path

VN name is Being A DIK and we can't have 4/5 main LI playing as DIK

WRONG THEORY

"being" is not "be"

you are free

 

[johnny twosins]

Hello, I recently discovered this game, and wow, loving it.

I tend to prefer the DIK choices / actions though, they feel more 'real' to me. Which suits me just fine because I absolutely love Sage. I don't know what you guys see in Jill.

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

I don't know what you guys see in Jill.

Easy there sport. Unless you like kicking the hornets nest .... if so, go for it!
Cool, you're enjoying the game though.

 

[Black Swamp Ent.]

I guess dpc wasn't joking when he said that game/ story events could trigger past RL events and not to play his games while in a dark time in your life.

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

I guess dpc wasn't joking when he said that game/ story events could trigger past RL events and not to play his games while in a dark time in your life.

What do you mean, in reference to what?