She's a teenager.it does not seem to me that they have ever fought for this relationship:
Dad: You stop this relationship or you're out on your ass and I won't pay for college.
I mean what is she supposed to do? Be homeless?
She's a teenager.it does not seem to me that they have ever fought for this relationship:
Love will keep her warm when she's stuck sleeping on park benches.She's a teenager.
Dad: You stop this relationship or you're out on your ass and I won't pay for college.
I mean what is she supposed to do? Be homeless?
You could also call Josy and Maya if you chose the Triangular relationship, it’ll just lead to the same scene with same dialogueI consider myself a thorough player, but I can't believe I missed out the option to call Sage during the party, after Cathy's cluck is leaked. What a pleasant surprise, to stumble into something new after playing this game many times...
i also wrote this:She's a teenager.
Dad: You stop this relationship or you're out on your ass and I won't pay for college.
I mean what is she supposed to do? Be homeless?
the scenario you describe is not fighting, but asking and accepting to submit to a threat, there is quite the opposite of fighting.no one is always fighting, and some of these battles they couldn't win, but they didn't fight any.
Maya's personality shown so far makes me doubt that she has clashed so hard with her father. her father imposed an ultimatum on her and she accepted it hoping for providence.Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to your results! I just want to be ready for the long march to Episode 7, assuming we somehow survive 2020.
I think it might be more accurate to say neither has ever fought effectively for the relationship. Maya's whole odyssey to get free tuition started as a way to protect the relationship from her father. She clearly put herself through things she would never have done ordinarily as part of that.
Is this a smart way to go about it? I would say no, even given porn-game logic. But it does convince me that Maya was willing to metaphorically bleed for the relationship, at least at first. We don't know if Josy did anything similar. The revelation that she knew full well the MC had a crush on her when she went on that first date doesn't speak well to her motivation, but it's possible she was near her limit by then.
In any case, I do agree their relationship is extremely fragile. It took the MC to get them to really address what had happened to them, and even then they are STILL keeping secrets if the MC goes the friendship route.
Personally, I'm hoping this is simply a mechanism to make it possible for the MC to date them individually without having to break them up himself. If he encourages them to work through their problems and start working together (with or without him in the mix), they can patch things up and learn to trust each other properly. If he keeps his distance, their relationship will eventually collapse and he'll be left to help each girl pick up the pieces (again, with or without him in the mix).
Hopefully we'll be a big step to seeing how this will unfold soon. <knock on wood>
Right?Love will keep her warm when she's stuck sleeping on park benches.
Love will keep her fed when the soup kitchen runs out of chicken noodle.
Why are you against love?!
Yes, it was. She talks about how her conservative religious father lost his shit when she came out of the closet and forbade the relationship.but even assuming there has been an important clash with the father (we don't know anything about it and it is not said
we know that Maya's father is against her story with Josy and therefore refused to pay her tuition.Yes, it was. She talks about how her conservative religious father lost his shit when she came out of the closet and forbade the relationship.
And why do you think she is so fucking desperate to get into the hots and get that free tuition? To get out from under his thumb so she can go back to josey, obviously.
Indeed, I can't imagine Maya and her Dad having particularly fierce shouting matches or anything like that, more likely that he would have exerted his will on her and she would have become emotionally distraught, but she hasn't accepted his ultimatum.Maya's personality shown so far makes me doubt that she has clashed so hard with her father. her father imposed an ultimatum on her and she accepted it hoping for providence.
Well, as I said, if a condition of the ultimatum is also to stop being gay, then she can't agree to that because, at the time, that's what she believed she was. So her not accepting may not entirely be because of Josy since, as you say, she couldn't guarantee seeing her as she might not have got in to B&R.then we are in the non-sense, whereby Maya gives up the money for the college thinking of not seeing Josy anyway, which should be the reason why the father refused to pay her the tuition...
The MC can be made to have a clear preference if he's gained a lot of RP with one but not the other, you're right, and there are moments like staying with Josy and staying with Maya for their respective sex scenes where, again, he could choose one but not the other. Maybe that will have an effect on the throuple relationship, but it could also be more to do with the decision mechanic we saw in Ep 5 where you had to choose between going to Maya or going with Josy, and if we get more choices like that and you choose one girl more than the other, then that might be what has an effect.but the point of my reasoning was not to talk about Maya and Josy yet, but to explain why I don't think their couple can last with and without MC.
if MC is just a friend I don't understand why he should bump into them to keep them together, it would be really uninteresting in a game where at that point he will obviously be interested in another LI, if he were interested in one of the two girls then it would make even less sense to stand there at be supportive of their lopsided relationship.
if MC is in a relationship with both of them, unless he makes wicked choices that lead the two girls to hate him, it still seems very likely to me that it is one of the two girls to leave the relationship. I don't know if the plot will take this into account but I would like to remind you that MC can be in relationship with both even having had a clear preference towards only one of the girls in choices and actions
Of course it's "crazy", a) because it's a story made for dramatic purposes, but also b) she's a teenager and rational thought is something generally gained with age whilst emotional thought is generally what rules teenage life.we know that Maya's father is against her story with Josy and therefore refused to pay her tuition.
we know that her father used harsh words towards Maya (that she was worthless).
therefore it is the father who certainly attacked Maya, what Maya did to defend her relationship we do not know.
the plan to go to college with a dubious free tuition is desperate, then if it's to live with a girl you think dumped you it's crazy
But my point is Maya wasn't hoping for an act of providence, she was taking an active role in bringing it about. That's one way of fighting for the relationship. The fact she didn't go about it the way you would have preferred (challenging her father directly and refusing to back down) doesn't change that. Maya gave up too quickly and didn't convey her feelings to Josy very well, but she was trying to keep them together.Maya's personality shown so far makes me doubt that she has clashed so hard with her father. her father imposed an ultimatum on her and she accepted it hoping for providence.
then we are in the non-sense, whereby Maya gives up the money for the college thinking of not seeing Josy anyway, which should be the reason why the father refused to pay her the tuition...
but the point of my reasoning was not to talk about Maya and Josy yet, but to explain why I don't think their couple can last with and without MC.
if MC is just a friend I don't understand why he should bump into them to keep them together, it would be really uninteresting in a game where at that point he will obviously be interested in another LI, if he were interested in one of the two girls then it would make even less sense to stand there at be supportive of their lopsided relationship.
if MC is in a relationship with both of them, unless he makes wicked choices that lead the two girls to hate him, it still seems very likely to me that it is one of the two girls to leave the relationship. I don't know if the plot will take this into account but I would like to remind you that MC can be in relationship with both even having had a clear preference towards only one of the girls in choices and actions
You and me both, brother.Obviously, I am hoping for the former.
I really do hope DPC allows this relationship to work somehow. Even if they are happy with how AL went, which they do seem to be, consistently dashing people's hopes by subverting their expectations like this, offering up a particular relationship path then taking it away, is not a good thing to do.But my point is Maya wasn't hoping for an act of providence, she was taking an active role in bringing it about. That's one way of fighting for the relationship. The fact she didn't go about it the way you would have preferred (challenging her father directly and refusing to back down) doesn't change that. Maya gave up too quickly and didn't convey her feelings to Josy very well, but she was trying to keep them together.
As far as the relationship going the distance the second time (with or without the MC), that's entirely up to what DPC wants to happen. The people involved are inexperienced and the relationship is fragile (especially if it's going the polyamory route), but it's not impossible. IF DPC wants it to succeed and shows the girls (and the MC, if applicable) learning to make healthier choices, it can credibly succeed. If DPC wants it to fail because he hates making his audience happy, he can show the girls continuing to hide their feelings behind fear and indecision, and it will credibly fail.
don't confuse people because there won't be any M&J ending with mc, Dpc will never do mini harems so nope, in the end you will have to choose 1 for sure.and that's what it would feel like for players who want a M&J endgame relationship and feel that the game is promising this.