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Pendrell

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DPC doesn't want Quinn as a LI, which is why she lacks RP (literally not in the code) & doesn't show in the episode reports.

Of course she still features extensively in the story, she's one of the main antagonists to date & a fantastic character. Hopefully the dynamic transforms in future if we choose to help her out & deepen the relationship. But she still won't be a LI.
What I meant was that the label "LI" is an arbitrary distinction that people are making on here, and I'm not sure it's really as significant as people are making out. Quinn is arguably a much more interesting character than some of the other girls who appear in the chapter reports, the dynamic with the MC is complex and is likely to be developed still further, her scenes in the last chapter were epic, in my view, and her background is being fleshed out. If anything she's in a category by herself, but my point is if it looks like a rose and smells like a rose, it still smells as sweet, regardless of whether she is a "main LI". I'm not sure why people are so invested in that term.
 

shazba

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What I meant was that the label "LI" is an arbitrary distinction that people are making on here, and I'm not sure it's really as significant as people are making out. Quinn is arguably a much more interesting character than some of the other girls who appear in the chapter reports, the dynamic with the MC is complex and is likely to be developed still further, her scenes in the last chapter were epic, in my view, and her background is being fleshed out. If anything she's in a category by herself, but my point is if it looks like a rose and smells like a rose, it still smells as sweet, regardless of whether she is a "main LI". I'm not sure why people are so invested in that term.
If you can hang out with her and can fuck her on numerous occasions, that's a sweet smelling rose right there. Just a few thorns to watch out for.

That being said, the game has, up until now, specifically identified 5 girls to pursue for a potential substantial relationship. Quinn is not one of them.
 
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lemonfreak

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What I meant was that the label "LI" is an arbitrary distinction that people are making on here, and I'm not sure it's really as significant as people are making out. Quinn is arguably a much more interesting character than some of the other girls who appear in the chapter reports, the dynamic with the MC is complex and is likely to be developed still further, her scenes in the last chapter were epic, in my view, and her background is being fleshed out. If anything she's in a category by herself, but my point is if it looks like a rose and smells like a rose, it still smells as sweet, regardless of whether she is a "main LI". I'm not sure why people are so invested in that term.
Because a distinction needs to be made beween the girls who the MC might end up with and those he will merely have a casual relationship with. The 5 women in the EoC reports are LIs, everyone else is a sidegirl. You are, of course, entitled to use whatever words you wish to but people will correct you if your terms blur the lines between the 2.

You could say LI, main girl, even final girl although that has connotations ( :eek:) but no matter which term you use, Maya, Josy, Bella, Jill and Sage qualify; Quinn, Jade, Cathy, Camilla, Sarah, Mel, Heather, Ashley, Elena, Nora, Lily and Envy/Nicole don't.
 

crabsinthekitchen

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What I meant was that the label "LI" is an arbitrary distinction that people are making on here, and I'm not sure it's really as significant as people are making out. Quinn is arguably a much more interesting character than some of the other girls who appear in the chapter reports, the dynamic with the MC is complex and is likely to be developed still further, her scenes in the last chapter were epic, in my view, and her background is being fleshed out. If anything she's in a category by herself, but my point is if it looks like a rose and smells like a rose, it still smells as sweet, regardless of whether she is a "main LI". I'm not sure why people are so invested in that term.
totally agree. fucking someone for three nights in a row is the same as three one-night stands anyway
 
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hablat

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What I meant was that the label "LI" is an arbitrary distinction that people are making on here, and I'm not sure it's really as significant as people are making out.
I think pretty much every girl in the game right now is on the table as an LI. The main girls on the slate might have been the original intention then DPC saw the popularity of Quinn or grew to like the character and expanded her role. The slates do indicate that the 5 are the biggest ones. But even then they're not all created equal. Jill has the least amount of proper development imo and if you crash with Sage she gets far and away the most.

Quinn is definitely one of the most important characters though. She's been driving the plot as much if not more than the MC. I called her the unofficial 6th LI for a reason.

Give me my Camila ending, though, DPC. :^)
 

Pendrell

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Because a distinction needs to be made beween the girls who the MC might end up with and those he will merely have a casual relationship with. The 5 women in the EoC reports are LIs, everyone else is a sidegirl. You are, of course, entitled to use whatever words you wish to but people will correct you if your terms blur the lines between the 2.

You could say LI, main girl, even final girl although that has connotations ( :eek:) but no matter which term you use, Maya, Josy, Bella, Jill and Sage qualify; Quinn, Jade, Cathy, Camilla, Sarah, Mel, Heather, Ashley, Elena, Nora, Lily and Envy/Nicole don't.
I don't really understand why this is supposed to be an iron law here. Has DPC said there will be no endings with "side girls" has DPC defined Quinn as a "side girl"? Is there a rule that she can't attain this mythical coveted LI status? I just think it's worth looking at the story as it's unfolding rather than getting hung up on terminology.
 

Wizard_Shiryuu

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I don't really understand why this is supposed to be an iron law here. Has DPC said there will be no endings with "side girls" has DPC defined Quinn as a "side girl"? Is there a rule that she can't attain this mythical coveted LI status? I just think it's worth looking at the story as it's unfolding rather than getting hung up on terminology.
Not necessarily.
Yes.
The list is final.
 

macaquinh0

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I'm missing Envy #6, Isabella #15 and Mixed #47 #53. Any idea how to get these?

Also for some reason my Envy renders are all duplicate, I'm guessing it's a bug.
 

felicemastronzo

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Not trying to be funny here:

What if Episode 8 ends with all the LI's making demands of the MC and he can't handle the pressure. Josy/Maya show up at the library, worried that MC hasn't been to class all week. They find his room empty and Tommy non-chalantly explains that MC had a breakdown and ran away.

We then cut to a dingy apartment in San Diego: Zoe opens the door to find MC standing in front of her with a suitcase.

MC: "Hi, can I stay with you?"


Episode 9 features all five LIs road tripping together to San Diego to get MC and bring him back to campus, while MC and Zoe have philosophical discussions as MC "finds himself."

making the Mc escape for the second time would be repetitive ...
 

Wizard_Shiryuu

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I'm missing Envy #6, Isabella #15 and Mixed #47 #53. Any idea how to get these?

Also for some reason my Envy renders are all duplicate, I'm guessing it's a bug.
They are the same, but there are two variants. Black and white and coloured, but the colour is very faint.
 

always86

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I really hope not. AL was my favourite LN up until the fire and the twist. Not because it wasn't the ending that I wanted but because it was unsatisfying. It's been a while since I played but the promise didn't match the payoff. I think DPC did it that way to subvert the typical porn LN but I wouldn't like it a second time.

If Bella has her husband's corpse frozen in the locked room or some other crazy twist I'll just be annoyed. The kiss quote
"But if I had known the real reasons to her tears... and to her persona... I wouldn't have kissed her that night. I would have called out for help."
Implies something pretty bad is going on under the surface. It's vague and could mean anything. All we know is something is bothering her and her super bitchy attitude has a route cause. But it, in and of itself, isn't enough to give any hint she might be psychotic. And there are no other real clues yet.

So if it went that way I would be really upset. A twist for the sake of a twist is bad. This is me extolling all my writing experience and classes here, but if a twist blindsides you and doesn't add up it can ruin a whole story.

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I am leaning towards her husband being MIA. The mannequin is her husbands uniform. Possible he is KIA as well. I strongly hope it isn’t a dead body. Would take Bella from being traumatised to being deranged. Some have argued smell would stop this being possible, but as it’s a game real world logic doesn’t necessarily come into play.


Honestly Chad being gay was my initial theory the first time I played but things don't add up if that were the case.
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I hope if it isn't Melanie then it makes a lot of sense in retrospect cause I just wrote a few paragraphs complaining about twists for the sake of twists haha.

EDIT: Just had a thought:
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I’d wager Chad is gay. A lot of stuff is circumstantial, but that’s the way of things until we get the actual answer.

Lots of people think it but it doesn't make sense. The most obvious issue with that theory is that mc's mom died when he was born. Jill is 2 or 3 years older than mc. That means Jill was 3 when her sister died. She's way older than 3 in the photo on her sister's shoulders, and all her memories with her sister imply she was much older than three when she died.
Possible the picture isn’t Jill and her sister. Could be her sister and Mum. Could also be the case that MCs mum didn’t die in childbirth. Again at the minute, evidence is circumstantial.

Wondering if Jill is older than she appears as that could solve some of the issues?
I think this is possible. She certainly has a mature vibe.

The other obvious one is that Jill makes a big deal about the tree at the picnic, about how it was her and her sister's favorite spot where they would write and such. In the flashbacks to the mc's mom, she's writing under a tree, it is so not the same tree. She's allowed to write under any tree she likes, but it's just another counter argument (if the tree was the same, then that'd be a serious game changer in this argument).
Again, fully acknowledge this is speculation with no evidence, but you could argue the way we see the flashbacks is in the MCs minds eye. In other words the tree is different, because The MC is picturing a random tree.

Again appreciate this is bending what we know to fit the theory, miss remembering or imagining a situation is fairly common when there is a hidden truth to be revealed.

A totally left field suggestion for Chad's side chick. Maybe he's just making money on the side for the tri-alphas working for a phone sex company and this company sends gifts in the mail to their customers and stuff. Not a field I have much expertise in though, but just a thought.
HAHA love this idea, think it’s very unlikely though.
It's possible she took a few years off before going to college, or even that she's now doing another degree.

Anyway, my entire argument against this theory - I posted this a few days ago:
For the theory to really work either Jill would have to be older than we realise or MCs mum didn’t die at the time we’re told. At the moment Jill’s age is the main reason I don’t buy the theory. (Even though I won’t write it off until Lynette and Jill’s sister are confirmed different people)

Aunt - niece isn’t incest, it’s even legal, but that’s a strong counter-argument to the theory and that’s good.
I’m not sure about Aunt/Nephew being legal. In lots Of places first cousins aren’t legal either. Remember we haven’t seen any ‘incest’ yet. If the reveal happens before they get any more physical the DPCs line of ‘no incest’ will still be true. I’d also suggest he may mean no fetishistic incest, in other words MC isn’t fucking her because she’s his Aunt but instead because they are both ignorant of the truth.

Again I’d prefer this theory not to be true since I like Jill and I’d love to see her getting a proper deep dickin‘.
 

Ddraigon

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I'm missing Envy #6, Isabella #15 and Mixed #47 #53. Any idea how to get these?

Also for some reason my Envy renders are all duplicate, I'm guessing it's a bug.
They are the same, but there are two variants. Black and white and coloured, but the colour is very faint.
At first I thought that Envy's render were duplicate but they are different. First set is black and white and the second set is coloured but faintly.
 

kire37

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why my gallery scene just unlocked scene in part 6 even though i allready play from part 1 in chick and dik way . anybody know why? bug or something ?
 

kent711

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/season2/scripts/freeroam/episode6/ep6_freeroam_diks.rpy", line 91, in <module>
File "game/season2/scripts/map_system/map_system.rpy", line 1, in execute
File "game/season2/scripts/map_system/map_system.rpy", line 1, in execute
File "game/season2/scripts/map_system/map_system.rpy", line 5, in execute
NameError: name 'map_fast_travel' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "season2/scripts/freeroam/episode6/ep6_freeroam_diks.rpyc", line 91, in script
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 912, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\python.py", line 2004, in py_exec_bytecode
exec bytecode in globals, locals
File "game/season2/scripts/freeroam/episode6/ep6_freeroam_diks.rpy", line 91, in <module>
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\ui.py", line 295, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 2699, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, **kwargs)
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 3091, in interact_core
root_widget.visit_all(lambda i : i.per_interact())
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 541, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 541, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 541, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\display\screen.py", line 430, in visit_all
callback(self)
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 3091, in <lambda>
root_widget.visit_all(lambda i : i.per_interact())
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\display\screen.py", line 440, in per_interact
self.update()
File "C:\New folder\BeingADIK-0.5.2-pc\renpy\display\screen.py", line 625, in update
self.screen.function(**self.scope)
File "game/season2/scripts/map_system/map_system.rpy", line 1, in execute
File "game/season2/scripts/map_system/map_system.rpy", line 1, in execute
File "game/season2/scripts/map_system/map_system.rpy", line 5, in execute
File "<screen language>", line 5, in <module>
NameError: name 'map_fast_travel' is not defined

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.2.320
Being a DIK 0.5.2
Sat Nov 21 17:21:59 2020

how to do this?
 

TrainHardnett

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You don't have to have accepted Quinn's restaurant offer, but:
  • You have to have DIK affinity
  • You cannot be in a serious relationship with Maya and Josey
  • You had to have sex with her on the roof of the DIK mansion
Thats a bit wrong, on my main save I wasn't DIK affinity and didn't have sex with her on the rooftop (no drugs for my MC) and still got the scene. The requirements might as well be not being on the M&J path and being Neutral/DIK affinity. I haven't done her restaurant either on that save.
 
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