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Seeming to be perfectly normal and well-adjusted on the outside doesn't necessarily mean she hasn't suffered years of psychological abuse at the hands of her Dad. Very often you'll find that this is a front they put up to hide it, but you can still recognise signs that all is not right with them. I'd say that that moment in Ep 2 after the cum-petition is where you see that Maya really come out (pardon the pun) because it's a moment of weakness where the mask slips and you see just how traumatised she is.
Plus, let's face it, whose parents haven't given their kids a few mental scars growing up? Parents influence their kids' psychological and emotional development more than anything else, so when you have a parent who is particularly abusive towards this aspect of their growth, then it can have the kind of effects you're seeing in Maya.
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Overall I agree that Maya is pretty well adjusted considering. But I've also said before that I think Maya's initial portrayal, which is much more confident and flirtatious than she acts in Episode 3+, is something of a facade. The real Maya aspires to be that person, but she falls short because she's an intensely private girl with a mountain of inexperience and self-doubt. When she barely knew the MC it was easy to 'fake confidence.' As she got to know him, it became a lot harder.
The reason she leans so heavily on the MC now is that he's one of the few people she's opened up to that turned out to be trustworthy. That's why her flirtatious 'act' fades as she gets to know him better, at least until very recently. It's also why she was so conflicted about trying to explain the situation with Josy.
Maya's sexual orientation was her biggest secret, and she learned the hard way that she needed to keep it secret. There was no way to explain everything to the MC without revealing that, and if he rejected her over it she'd lose her only remaining confidant. (Other than Derek, but I get the impression there are limits to how helpful Derek can be on the topic of love or sex). By the time Maya was able to admit the whole truth, it was too late.
None of which is to excuse her behavior: what Maya did was wrong no matter her reasons, and she knew that. (To her credit, she does admit her mistake in the library scene - one of the few bits that rang true, IMHO). But I do think it shows that Maya has problems beyond just her poorly conceptualized financial issue. The real question is if the game will work as hard to address these shortcomings as it does to fix her debt.
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Yep, she's a big girl. You can see why she's into MC. You know that bitch boy James never picked her up and french kissed her while doing some hip grinding.Thanks, another BIG woman
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Maybe he did, and that's why he's on life support in the locked room in Bella's house.
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We dont know James, but if he is a soldier or something i think he can handle her perfectly xd
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Ha, maybe, who knows? I know a lot of big girls like to be picked up. Some Freudian thing I guess. Most of them haven't been picked up since they were young (and lighter). I picked up a big woman once. Once. I did everything in my power to keep a calm face and not let on that my spine and my intestines were about to pop. I managed to hold it all together and get her to the bed...just barely. It worked though, she was super into it.
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The big unknown (unless I've forgotten something) is how long has the psychological interference by her father been going on for. How long has Maya known she's only interested in girls? She mentioned to the mc she tried hetero relationships in the past and it never worked for her, so was Josy her first? An over religious parent doesn't necessarily mean years of psychological abuse, and if Josy was her first and her dad only found out about it relatively recently (in the last year or so) and he handled it terribly (trying to force her straight), then we're not talking years of trauma, just one prolonged, lousy incident with a misguided parent. I'm not going to underplay the importance of supporting parents when an (adult) child is trying to negotiate their non-conforming sexuality. Given that sexuality is one of our most defining factors as a human being, having parents tell you it's wrong is obviously very destructive, but I still think we're placing more weight on the "Maya Dramas" than it warrants. All that said, this is just my opinion and I don't intend to argue it ad infinitum with you guys, each to their own and all that.
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I don't know about you brothers, but Mona is a character that I like a lot...I'll miss her
I wish the MC could have had more moments with her...
I wish the MC could have had more moments with her...
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Given she was only a side character, it's possible that this is it for her, and she'll just be another drama for the more pronounced characters to feed off, but I hope we haven't seen the last of her, she was cool.I don't know about you brothers, but Mona is a character that I like a lot...I'll miss her
I wish the MC could have had more moments with her...
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Indeed, but I think she'll be back in the story in some way even if she's not attending B&R. It just gives me even more of a reason to bring down Burke.I don't know about you brothers, but Mona is a character that I like a lot...I'll miss her
I wish the MC could have had more moments with her...
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We don't have much hard data. We know Josy was the first (and only) girl Maya actually slept with, and we know that happened the summer before the game began (the Episode 4 flashback). We know that at some point Maya's dad learned about the relationship and reacted... badly. I do think we can speculate a bit, though.
During the camping trip, Derek threatens to tell Josy how Maya feels about her. Clearly Maya had already recognized her attraction to Josy by that point, enough not only for Derek to pick up on it, but for Maya to understand his 'threat.' From that I take it that Maya may not have done much with other girls yet, but she was sufficiently cognizant of her sexuality to recognize she thought of Josy that way (and not, for example, Lynn).
I also think the fact that the four of them were able to go on that camping trip suggests that while Maya and Derek knew Maya was a lesbian, her father was not yet aware of it. I can't imagine he would allow Maya to sleep over with two girls otherwise, even if he didn't know for certain Maya liked one of them. But in her graduation photo, her dad is ignoring her, even though she graduated Magna Cum Laude. That suggests that on the specific topic of Maya's dad punishing her for her sexuality, it's probably been a year or so at most, and about half a year at least.
We also know, however, that during the camping trip, Maya mentions that her father probably wouldn't allow her to have a summer job. And if she shows the MC her family photos, she mentions that her dad was "pretty pissed" when Derek didn't want to be Santa Claus for the photo. So it does seem likely that Maya's dad was never one to foster independence in his children even before Maya came out of the closet.
Exactly what that means is up for debate (unless we get a Maya family flashback in Episode 7). I don't want to overstate it, but I think there's room for some degree of psychological trauma there.
Fair enough. No more from me.
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Have you got any more details regarding the crash, a screen dump or something?