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felicemastronzo

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Well, they didn't have sex, also the DIKs don't know what went on, they just know she spent the night and assume what happened.



If we're talking in terms of women's intuition, then perhaps they have a feeling about each other, but I don't think they know the full extent. Even so, Jill knows that Josy is someone the MC has been seeing yet is still getting friendly with her, so she's either not bothered about that knowledge, or is just putting on a brave face. Either way, it probably is for plot purposes such that, if the MC chooses Jill, Josy (at least) won't be too uspet because she knows that Jill is a nice person and she'll be happy for the MC, and vice-versa should the MC choose Josy (and possibly Maya) over her.
Cathe has her professional life ruined by a photo (in which she does nothing wrong), Bella instead spends the night in a brotherhood known for its seriousness

the DIKs don't need to know what she did or didn't do

Josy knows that Jill and MC have had a date, and Jill knows that MC has had a past with Josy, he tells him right on the date and Jill replies that she accepts it but of course she doesn't like it.

there is little to use female intuition
 

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Seriously, I have to write this all out again?

First, read the ep 4 library scene again
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Try to put yourself in the MC's shoes. Do you think that he might have thought that there was a possibility of a relationship here?
Yes, because even though it was all happening in a very short space of time, their feelings deepened for each other as was evident from the fact that, in that scene with Maya in Ep 3, she showed a determination to give herself over to her feelings for him and was preparing to tell him everything, as well as perhaps that she wanted to be with him, before Josy showed up. Josy similarly was prepared to dump Maya and be with the MC when she got to the college, so they were both going to make massive leaps for him.

What happened between then and Ep 4 was that they spent 2 days together and it reminded them of what they had which made things even more confusing and complicated for both of them. Maya also now had a chance to enact her plan to get the tuition, get out from under her Dad's thumb, and be with Josy, but she now had feelings for the MC. The MC may have started out as her "way to escape", but he's more than that now and she knows it, as does the MC.

The problem, as I will always continue to say, is that the rejection doesn't make sense, but so too does them getting back together so easily and even having that reconciliatory kiss. I do think they can forgive each other for being with the MC because they both feel the same way about him (I even think Josy should be ecstatic about it), but I don't think they should have made up so easily. They also shouldn't have rejected the MC because if he's done everything with them, as some people on the DIK path had done, then there'e nothing they've seen that should make them wary of being with him.

Josy did tell MC that she had someone else. He then did the right thing and told her this is farewell. But Josy insisted that it was not farewell, only good bye while crying and hugging him. Don't you think she was sending him mixed signal's here? Don't you think she was holding out the possibility that there could still be something between them?
She's a woman, of course she was giving him mixed signals. :ROFLMAO:

The situation is pretty clear, and both girl's admit it, that they used the MC as an emotional crutch at a time when they were both sad and lonely. How would you feel in that situation?
I wouldn't say they used him, they leaned on him for emotional support during a difficult time, and given this game's rapid progression of things, they developed feelings for him quickly so it became something more.
 
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Lot of whiny bitches in the thread recently, D&G was a fun diversion, I especially enjoyed the different ways in which the LIs reacted to MC's charm based on relationship status.

And to everyone moaning that those sex scenes weren't real, I've got news for you, none of the scenes are real :oops: . What was really good was it allowed DPC to cram in far more scenes than was feasable in such a short space of time, remember how you all critisised the number of sex scenes in the mansion for being unrealistic? :FacePalm:
 

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That's completely beside the point. None of the characters have any knowledge of what's happening in future episodes. This was a discussion of why the MC would remain friends with M&J after the events leading up to the end of episode 4.
It is not out of place, you must forget what happened in chapter 4 and focus on the now and now if the Mc is with them they are all happy and I would say that they love him more than each other. And if you are not with them, you are their friend, although the plot suggests that Mc and they still feel things for each other and that cannot be avoided for now, it is done like that and that's it.
 

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How absurd would be to think that Quinn might get more space within the VN from now on? She's been on the banner with the LIs, her backstory was the opener in ep. 6, and the MC is getting quite close to her, as we can see from her scene and the phone messages where Quinn offers free specials and agrees to hang more with the MC.

How much of a long shot would be to think that she may join the RP system? It wouldn't be the weirdest thing to see it starting in ep. 7, right?
Yes other variables could be used to setup RP points mid-game, but that seems extraordinarily unlikely given DPC has already established her role in the story. If he planned for her to be a LI he would have made his coding job easier by incorporating Quinn RP from the start.
 

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It is not out of place, you must forget what happened in chapter 4 and focus on the now and now if the Mc is with them they are all happy and I would say that they love him more than each other. And if you are not with them, you are their friend, although the plot suggests that Mc and they still feel things for each other and that cannot be avoided for now, it is done like that and that's it.
Once again, the discussion is about why would MC make a decision at the end of episode 4. How can things that happened after episode 4 effect his decision in episode 4?
 
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felicemastronzo

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Meushi I can not quote your post...

I also don't think Quinn is a LI, she's too far from Mc's world even if MC was a DIK.

but we cannot deny that a Quinn route already exists, made up of exclusive scenes and dialogues, it is probably just the preamble to her dramatic exit from the scene
 
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That's completely beside the point. None of the characters have any knowledge of what's happening in future episodes. This was a discussion of why the MC would remain friends with M&J after the events leading up to the end of episode 4.
On the rejection path, it is a little hard to square that with any sort of logic which is why there shouldn't have been a rejection because it muddies things up too much, but on the friendship path, it makes a bit more sense.

Lot of whiny bitches in the thread recently, D&G was a fun diversion, I especially enjoyed the different ways in which the LIs reacted to MC's charm based on relationship status.

And to everyone moaning that those sex scenes weren't real, I've got news for you, none of the scenes are real :oops: . What was really good was it allowed DPC to cram in far more scenes than was feasable in such a short space of time, remember how you all critisised the number of sex scenes in the mansion for being unrealistic? :FacePalm:
I honestly found it amusing how many times the MC got off in one night in that episode, and honestly, this episode actually gave me a newfound appreciation for Ep 5 because we got some good, revelatory moments in that episode with main LIs and side girls, plenty of action in the real BaDIK world on all paths, and there was quite a hopeful, optimistic feel to the episode which was kind of lost in Ep 6.
 

felicemastronzo

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Lot of whiny bitches in the thread recently, D&G was a fun diversion, I especially enjoyed the different ways in which the LIs reacted to MC's charm based on relationship status.

And to everyone moaning that those sex scenes weren't real, I've got news for you, none of the scenes are real :oops: . What was really good was it allowed DPC to cram in far more scenes than was feasable in such a short space of time, remember how you all critisised the number of sex scenes in the mansion for being unrealistic? :FacePalm:
I agree that the most interesting part is the reaction of the different girls you have attempts to charm, Jill reacts really bad, the only one if I'm not mistaken.

but you can't compare the fifth chapter sex marathon with this one.

in the fifth chapter aside from Lily, we learn something about all the girls we manage to have sex with, even in the case of secondary characters like Camilla.

in the D&G match we find out nothing, and no one finds out about MC.

if it's purely for sex scenes i look elsewhere, from a game i expect a minimum of involvement, otherwise pornhub best game ever
 

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On the rejection path, it is a little hard to square that with any sort of logic which is why there shouldn't have been a rejection because it muddies things up too much, but on the friendship path, it makes a bit more sense.



I honestly found it amusing how many times the MC got off in one night in that episode, and honestly, this episode actually gave me a newfound appreciation for Ep 5 because we got some good, revelatory moments in that episode with main LIs and side girls, plenty of action in the real BaDIK world on all paths, and there was quite a hopeful, optimistic feel to the episode which was kind of lost in Ep 6.
I'll try one more time and then I'm giving up. Why does the MC love Maya and Josy? Or why does he even like Maya & Josy? What's his motivation? What have we seen in the game that would engender any positive feelings at all for these two character's?
 

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I'll try one more time and then I'm giving up. Why does the MC love Maya and Josy? Or why does he even like Maya & Josy? What's his motivation? What have we seen in the game that would engender any positive feelings at all for these two character's?
Why Geralt loves Jennefer? why Shepard loves Liara or Tali? why Arthur Morgan loves his ex? why why why... its a game and it's made like that, you may like it or not. But I myself have felt things for those two in a couple of hours playing a game so why can't Mc can feel something much deeper in a few weeks or months in Josy's case?
 

felicemastronzo

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I'll try one more time and then I'm giving up. Why does the MC love Maya and Josy? Or why does he even like Maya & Josy? What's his motivation? What have we seen in the game that would engender any positive feelings at all for these two character's?


Can I answer you cynically without offending you and making you lose your patience?

for the same reason that on average any other female character falls in love with MC (and vice versa)

I share most of your reasoning from the point of view of emotions and reactions, but we cannot forget the context

if it's okay that after three years of abstinence Bella suddenly can't resist in the same room with MC without putting her hand on him, then it's credible that you fall in love and forgive each other within half a day

times are ultra-compressed and feelings are always strong and direct
 

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Josy doesn't lie, but she omits several things from him.

overall she is no more honest than Maya, the difference being that Maya constantly asks him for help while Josy is not.

the two girls are not honest with each other either.

nothing or anyone saves them from this
I think that the worst thing was that Maya said that she had a boyfriend and then says that she doesnt have one when the things between her and the MC start to "heat up". Thats makes the MC think that she is giving him signals that she is more than available to be with him. So Maya omits and lies to the MC after she says to the MC in episode 1 that the MC should promise to always be honest... And she had multiple opportunities to confide in the MC.

With Josy its different, because she says after you kiss that she is in a relationship and never retracts it, so it is the MCs choice to actually pursue a relationship with her despite that. And she is far away from the MC for ep 1-3, so she didnt have an opportunity to tell the MC anything after their date.

Im not saying that Josy didnt do anything wrong, but it is still, in my opinion, not as worse as Maya did
 

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Anyone know the conditions that needs to be met in order for Derek to have a threesome with Arieth and Jacob? I had multiple playthroughs in where he fucked her and in other ones he didn't. It's not gamebreaking but it did catch my interest
 

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Anyone know the conditions that needs to be met in order for Derek to have a threesome with Arieth and Jacob? I had multiple playthroughs in where he fucked her and in other ones he didn't. It's not gamebreaking but it did catch my interest

when you hunt for the naked guard you have to advise Derek against hitting Camilla
 

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Can I answer you cynically without offending you and making you lose your patience?

for the same reason that on average any other female character falls in love with MC (and vice versa)

I share most of your reasoning from the point of view of emotions and reactions, but we cannot forget the context

if it's okay that after three years of abstinence Bella suddenly can't resist in the same room with MC without putting her hand on him, then it's credible that you fall in love and forgive each other within half a day

times are ultra-compressed and feelings are always strong and direct
No, I agree with you those other things are just as unbelievable, as well as a hundred other things in this story, like Sage and Chad, or that a woman lays her thigh on a man's crotch and doesn't understand what she's touching, and etc. That's why I say that this is a very poorly written story. It's not enough to just state that this is the way it is, in writing a story you have to show in a believable way your characters acting in accordance with THEIR character as you the writer have created it. If DPC were writing a character as a flirty girl I could believe the thigh thing, but Maya? No way. That's where this story fall's apart.
 

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I think that the worst thing was that Maya said that she had a boyfriend and then says that she doesnt have one when the things between her and the MC start to "heat up". Thats makes the MC think that she is giving him signals that she is more than available to be with him. So Maya omits and lies to the MC after she says to the MC in episode 1 that the MC should promise to always be honest... And she had multiple opportunities to confide in the MC.

With Josy its different, because she says after you kiss that she is in a relationship and never retracts it, so it is the MCs choice to actually pursue a relationship with her despite that. And she is far away from the MC for ep 1-3, so she didnt have an opportunity to tell the MC anything after their date.

Im not saying that Josy didnt do anything wrong, but it is still, in my opinion, not as worse as Maya did

at first I thought so too, but playing it again I changed my mind

we are really close to responsibility, Maya has the justification for her problems and Josy thinks she never has to deal with her choices, since she is convinced that she has to give up the BR (which is quite a cowardly way of behaving)

I forgive everything to Maya except the post grinding, where she doesn't feel the need to apologize but thinks she can still ask for help

but let's not talk about the past
 

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Meushi I can not quote your post...

I also don't think Quinn is a LI, she's too far from Mc's world even if MC was a DIK.

but we cannot deny that a Quinn route already exists, made up of exclusive scenes and dialogues, it is probably just the preamble to her dramatic exit from the scene
That's because it's a quote from a previous post. Click on Meushi said & it will take you to the original post, where you can quote stuff.

The relevant text is within the Quinn spoiler. I agree Quinn is an important & interesting character, but not a LI (has no RP, imo unlikely to ever get RP).
 
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No, I agree with you those other things are just as unbelievable, as well as a hundred other things in this story, like Sage and Chad, or that a woman lays her thigh on a man's crotch and doesn't understand what she's touching, and etc. That's why I say that this is a very poorly written story. It's not enough to just state that this is the way it is, in writing a story you have to show in a believable way your characters acting in accordance with THEIR character as you the writer have created it. If DPC were writing a character as a flirty girl I could believe the thigh thing, but Maya? No way. That's where this story fall's apart.

I am a newbie to these games, I started in May, in my experience it is a very widespread problem


for me BADIK, with its flaws, remains a much above average game
 
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