VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

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You should try to be a little more polite on public forums, man. Stop calling every elaborated counter-argument 'ridiculous' or you'll soon run out of people wanting to discuss anything with you (or even read your own reasons)

Rubbish. You've done nothing more than repeatedly assert that Josy's motives are malign and therefore everything she does is an act calculated to keep the MC on her hook. When I propose the same thing about the MC's motives and show comparable examples of him keeping Josy on the hook, you say it's the most ridiculous argument ever and I'm grasping at straws.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Don't waste your time with him. It's like talking to the wall.
Is anyone else surprised that the DPC banned him?

 

[OtstrelDebilov]

I can't wait for next update, i think BaDIK is probably even more engaging than your previous game Acting lessons, but it is hard to compare them since they are so different story wise. But great job keep it up

Me too
I think PinkCake is one of 5 greatest creators of adult industry

 

[xXwankerXx]

I think PinkCake is one of 5 greatest creators of adult industry

Who are the other 4 ?? DPC and Philly are the best devs in this biz. Period. You know it's always worth to wait for these bois to release updates, and you'll never be disappointed.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Yes, I'm terrible. I refuse to refute the arguments of Flat Earthers too.

At least when flat Earthers are presented with facts that show why they're wrong they still try to argue their point. You won't even acknowledge the points made by ename and just continue to obfuscate because you have nothing to argue back with.

 

[DavDR]

Don't waste your time with him. It's like talking to the wall.
Is anyone else surprised that the DPC banned him?

Yes, I believe he banned Bacchus too.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Yes, I believe he banned Bacchus too.

For offering a reasonable suggestion of how to make the M&J scene in Ep 4 better, not being a belligerently and rudely critical ass or trying to get characters removed just because I don't like them.

 

[DavDR]

At least when flat Earthers are presented with facts that show why they're wrong they still try to argue their point. You won't even acknowledge the points made by ename and just continue to obfuscate because you have nothing to argue back with.

Wow that flat earthers thing just flew right past you. I don't refute FA's because they have no arguments, they're not reason based creatures.

 

[mpa71]

Could someone do a concise TL;DR of the most common critics here about DPC writing? Curious, it's mostly the forced M&J?

 

[Arigon]

Well Well Well, how the tables have turned... seems like the biggest drama DPC is gonna face isnt going to be in BaDIK

Now the question is: Will Arigon dick get fried off?

PS: RUN Yuno Gasai, RUN

I am so speechless!
I would like to thank my mom, my family, my writers and producers. The academy of course for taking such a firm and loving hand with guiding my cock so lovingly that the stream of piss hit every single machine in that Swede’s server farm. I would be remiss if I did not thank the heroic efforts of the paramedics as they tried to find ever single crispy piece of my decimated, fried, and exploded cock. The countless hours as the doctors tried to reassess and assemble what was left of my crispy member. All the fans who donated their stem cells to assist in the regrowth process. But, (and I know I’m speaking for all of my fans out there when I say this. I don’t think I could have managed this without the support you two guys gave me through all of this) most of all a heartfelt deep and abiding Fuck You to DPC for doing what I knew that bastard was going to do from way back when I read Acting Lessons for the first time! Thank you again. This honor, this tribute, it just means the world to me. (Quiet sobs heard in the background)

 

[horusxcaen82]

this thread keeps moving in so many interesting directions, I am glad I started participating when I did, how more or less people get in depth with the discussions etc, its fun.

 

[peanewb]

Looking forward for the relationship of MC and Jill. I like taking the chick side for more Jill content.

 

[kheysimodo]

Choosing between helping sage or going with jill for the anniversary was the hardest choice I have to make for a sex game
I love them both
I chose to help sage and I don't regret it, it was a cool scene, but I hope that the jill's relationship is not dead (though I chose the DIK path, so I don't think it will work in the long term)

 

[felicemastronzo]

Choosing between helping sage or going with jill for the anniversary was the hardest choice I have to make for a sex game
I love them both
I chose to help sage and I don't regret it, it was a cool scene, but I hope that the jill's relationship is not dead (though I chose the DIK path, so I don't think it will work in the long term)

the impression is that it is really a must for Jill, being in the middle of the game the hope of a second chance is there, but as the scene ends it seems to be the "real beginning" of the relationship with Jill.

instead for Sage I think there is some more hope.

 

[DavDR]

Your refusal to acknowledge the various examples that ename provided speaks volumes.

Really? Let's review shall we?

I've maintained that Josy lead the MC on, giving him reasonable expectations of a relationship, for the purposes of giving herself an admirer in a lonely time. Basically that she manipulated him. Earlier today you maintained that that's normal behavior for women. That lying and manipulation is just the way that women interact with the world and it's all perfectly normal.

When Ename joined the argument you switched to his position that Josy never manipulated anyone, and even if she did it was OK because MC manipulated her too. When pressed to prove his point that MC manipulated Josy he gave three examples, and a sweatshirt.

Let's examine those three example's. Amazingly all three of them are actions taken by the MC in response to Josy's initial manipulation of threatening to run away and hold her breath until she turned blue, or something. I maintained that Josy's threat to run away was a manipulation to get the MC to pursue her, and give his attention to her. What was the point of MC's alledged manipulations? How were his reactions to Josy's manipulation in fact manipulations themselves? I don't know, it's your theory of the moment.

And then we have the sweatshirt. After offering her his sweatshirt because he perceived that she was cold, he told her that she could keep it. And this is his arch manipulation of Josy? Maybe he told her to keep it just because he didn't want cooties. Or maybe he expected her to do the polite thing and wash a borrowed garment before returning it.

So given this level of argument is it any wonder that I refused to address it? If you or anyone else has a real argument that you want to bring, I'd love to hear it.

Oh and btw, I have never asked for any character to be removed from the game. That's only a figment of your fevered imagination.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

Choosing between helping sage or going with jill for the anniversary was the hardest choice I have to make for a sex game
I love them both
I chose to help sage and I don't regret it, it was a cool scene, but I hope that the jill's relationship is not dead (though I chose the DIK path, so I don't think it will work in the long term)

People didn't like that choice but can definitely expect more like it moving forward. DPC has already started to make players wary about going after multiple girls.

 

[Arigon]

Could someone do a concise TL;DR of the most common critics here about DPC writing? Curious, it's mostly the forced M&J?

Oh Lordy. You’re opening Pandora’s Box and I don’t mean the one betwixt her legs. As I am in the Christmas Spirit and shit I will give *** A very few*** and I mean few of the issues with Dr PinkCake’s writing issues:
To begin however you should always start on a high note, then the drubbing, then end on a high note. Fortunately DPC is not a shit developer, just not as great as everyone makes him out to be. So with that
High note- DPC in general comes up with good STARTING character concepts.
after that
He forces things, usually not well received things on his fans, that in general are an artifact of his limited capacity to tell a coherent well thought out story. He contrives situations that put his characters into boxes and forces the reader to follow this path regardless. Usually these paths are not “happy” and contain high degrees of melodrama, character death, threat of psychotic behavior, or huge loss.
his Main Characters have thus far sucked and are not likable. That summary covers a world of sins. On another bright note- he writes very likable Wingman characters. His Renders are top notch and he has actually finished one very mediocre AVN with shitty ending, and will finish this one, but doubtful that there won’t be some really shitty outcomes.

There. I think I summarized it fairly benignly.
peace

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Really? Let's review shall we?

I've maintained that Josy lead the MC on, giving him reasonable expectations of a relationship, for the purposes of giving herself an admirer in a lonely time. Basically that she manipulated him. Earlier today you maintained that that's normal behavior for women. That lying and manipulation is just the way that women interact with the world and it's all perfectly normal.

When Ename joined the argument you switched to his position that Josy never manipulated anyone, and even if she did it was OK because MC manipulated her too. When pressed to prove his point that MC manipulated Josy he gave three examples, and a sweatshirt.

Let's examine those three example's. Amazingly all three of them are actions taken by the MC in response to Josy's initial manipulation of threatening to run away and hold her breath until she turned blue, or something. I maintained that Josy's threat to run away was a manipulation to get the MC to pursue her, and give his attention to her. What was the point of MC's alledged manipulations? How were his reactions to Josy's manipulation in fact manipulations themselves? I don't know, it's your theory of the moment.

And then we have the sweatshirt. After offering her his sweatshirt because he perceived that she was cold, he told her that she could keep it. And this is his arch manipulation of Josy? Maybe he told her to keep it just because he didn't want cooties. Or maybe he expected her to do the polite thing and wash a borrowed garment before returning it.

So given this level of argument is it any wonder that I refused to address it? If you or anyone else has a real argument that you want to bring, I'd love to hear it.

Oh and btw, I have never asked for any character to be removed from the game. That's only a figment of your fevered imagination.

First of all, I never "switched" positions on anything. I merely implied that the behaviour, as you described it, was behaviour that is often attributed to women and that I didn't see any reason to look so negatively upon such behaviour because it is so commonplace. This was not an agreement of your stance on Josy's behaviour, I was just trying to say that if you choose to view it that way that it's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be.

Secondly, if you see this all as conscious manipulation by Josy to "lead him on" then I'd say you have some major hang-ups about women to not even consider that this is all just happening naturally. When she says that thing about possibly moving, she's more than likely just, as we say here, talking out her arse which is something people do all the time, and some people will pick up on that and others won't. It's not a conscious cry for help or her deliberately trying to pull the MC's strings, she just verbalised a random thought and the MC took it incredibly seriously. In this case, it's more about the MC overreacting to Josy's idle thought than it is Josy saying it for attention.

When it comes to the sweater, again, it's an idle gesture by the MC but easily could be interpreted by Josy as a more meaningful gesture than it actually was which is what leads her to saying that "goodbye not farewell" thing because she may have thought this meant something and she wasn't willing to let it end just yet. This is also not manipulation, just a simple gesture that was interpreted as being something deeper by the other person, something which is also quite commonplace.

This entire thing is likely just two people reading more into the words and gestures of each other and confusing the hell out of each other in the process which regards to trying to figure what the other feels for them and what to do about their feelings for the other person. This is a far simpler, more likely, and entirely realistic explanation/interpretation than this being conscious emotional manipulation by either of them.

 

[derek.is.the.key]

real sex with Jil ?

dont worry, it'll come in 2022, im sure of it!,. . . .maybe

 

[Gladheim]

I'm just following your directions "oh great Arigon the one who sees everything and the one who knows everything"
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Oh my friend, I think you touch a nerve here hahaha

 

[DavDR]

First of all, I never "switched" positions on anything. I merely implied that the behaviour, as you described it, was behaviour that is often attributed to women and that I didn't see any reason to look so negatively upon such behaviour because it is so commonplace. This was not an agreement of your stance on Josy's behaviour, I was just trying to say that if you choose to view it that way that it's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be.

Secondly, if you see this all as conscious manipulation by Josy to "lead him on" then I'd say you have some major hang-ups about women to not even consider that this is all just happening naturally. When she says that thing about possibly moving, she's more than likely just, as we say here, talking out her arse which is something people do all the time, and some people will pick up on that and others won't. It's not a conscious cry for help or her deliberately trying to pull the MC's strings, she just verbalised a random thought and the MC took it incredibly seriously. In this case, it's more about the MC overreacting to Josy's idle thought than it is Josy saying it for attention.

When it comes to the sweater, again, it's an idle gesture by the MC but easily could be interpreted by Josy as a more meaningful gesture than it actually was which is what leads her to saying that "goodbye not farewell" thing because she may have thought this meant something and she wasn't willing to let it end just yet. This is also not manipulation, just a simple gesture that was interpreted as being something deeper by the other person, something which is also quite commonplace.

This entire thing is likely just two people reading more into the words and gestures of each other and confusing the hell out of each other in the process which regards to trying to figure what the other feels for them and what to do about their feelings for the other person. This is a far simpler, more likely, and entirely realistic explanation/interpretation than this being conscious emotional manipulation by either of them.

I have to say that you really do have a talent for talking out of both sides of your mouth at the same time. You should take that act on YouTube, it's better than a circus.