VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[rj677]

Even Rhiona no longer approves of Quinn's practices.

Riona doesnt agree with the expansion, but she approves with everything that they have been doing up until that point

I agree with you that persuasion is not illegal.
But faking false facts is illegal. You can even be prosecuted for this in Germany.

What you say is true. However, in this situation, which facts are false? The free tuition does exist.

It would have been illegal, by your terms, if Quinn promised them the free tuition, they did the restaurant thing, and then they didnt get the promised free tuition (kinda like those internet scams when you are investing money into something that doesnt exist)

It is illegal when you blackmail/threaten them, which is what Quinn was doing with Mona. Also, even if someone does something willingly without coercion, the person who put them up to is considered more guilty in the eyes of the law. An example of this would be if someone is asked by a friend to deliver a parcel containing drugs to someone else. If the person delivering it is caught, whether they knew what was in it or not, they will be charged but the person who got them to deliver it will receive the harsher sentence if they are also caught. Same thing with people smuggling; the truck driver transporting them is guilty for doing it, but the people who hired/paid them to do it are the most guilty and the ones the authorities are more interested in catching.

When it comes to your first phrase, I agree with you as I said in my previous post. What Quinn does to Mona in ep6, in the room, is indeed blackmail and is indeed illegal.

As of the rest, I also agree with you. But in those cases they are both guilty only IF the "delivery man", as you put it, knew about what he was doing and the consequences and still went for it despite that. If he didnt know what he was doing, he isnt guilty (for example, the mailman isnt guilty of delivering me a package that has something illegal inside it)

Having seen the "pitch" that Quinn did to Camila in ep1, that Tumai actually pointed out to me first and that I was totally unware, it proved my point. She persuades Camila, she doesnt blackmail her or force her into anything, Quinn also doesnt give the vibe of: Now that you know this, you HAVE to do it (she could have done it after the MC went away, but we cant judge something we didnt see).

Of course that after you enter/do the illegal stuff your guilty of it. My whole point was that Quinn isnt doing anything illegal when she "brings it up" and that she doesnt force them into doing anything. When it comes to the blackmail and the drug, thats a different story and they are indeed illegal

 

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[Holy Bacchus]

When it comes to your first phrase, I agree with you as I said in my previous post. What Quinn does to Mona in ep6, in the room, is indeed blackmail and is indeed illegal.

As of the rest, I also agree with you. But in those cases they are both guilty only IF the "delivery man", as you put it, knew about what he was doing and the consequences and still went for it despite that. If he didnt know what he was doing, he isnt guilty (for example, the mailman isnt guilty of delivering me a package that has something illegal inside it)

Having seen the "pitch" that Quinn did to Camila in ep1, that Tumai actually pointed out to me first and that I was totally unware, it proved my point. She persuades Camila, she doesnt blackmail her or force her into anything, Quinn also doesnt give the vibe of: Now that you know this, you HAVE to do it (she could have done it after the MC went away, but we cant judge something we didnt see).

Of course that after you enter/do the illegal stuff your guilty of it. My whole point was that Quinn isnt doing anything illegal when she "brings it up" and that she doesnt force them into doing anything. When it comes to the blackmail and the drug, thats a different story and they are indeed illegal

Quinn's persuasion of Camila is like the snake persuading Eve to eat the forbidden apple; it's still a form of coercion using psychological manipulation to convince them that it's not a big deal and to go against their better judgement. It doesn't make the person who's being persuaded less guilty for committing the crime, but the person doing the the persuading is still the most guilty because they're manipulating others to do what they want them to do.

Also, as I said previously, Quinn's promises to Camila that she won't have to do what she doesn't want to are hollow because in these situations, someone in Camila's position will eventually be made to because the person in Quinn's position will now feel they own that person and be able to make them do more extreme things with threats of violence and/or ruining their lives in some way if they don't comply.

 

[felicemastronzo]

If you look at the events in BADIK from a realistic point of view, there is so much dirt that it becomes difficult to determine who has the cleanest ass.


School tests are openly distorted by a web of cheating,
4 out of 4 teachers that we know of have, or may have, sex with students,
the BR budget is blatantly rigged.
continuous bullying and physical violence
repeated damage to other people's property
prostitution
widespread drug dealing and consumption
blackmail
disclosure of private videos and photos


Mc, who is supposedly the hero of the story, keeps himself clean of a few of these crimes.

I still think it's wrong to give the same weight as we would in reality to everything related to sex. we're in a porn game and that's just the way it is.

 

[Mangaqe]

Being a DIK [v0.6.1] [Dr PinkCake]

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Original size: 2.98 GB

Compressed size: 716.8 MB

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This compression is unofficial. Compressing process reduces image/audio/video quality and can break the game

Where is "game.exe"

 

[Igneel1]

Where is "game.exe"

It is a compression of update files only, plz do read the OP carefully

 

[godkingxerxes]

Oh Boy 40 bucks for the preview image, soon he's going to have preview images only for himself.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

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Oh Boy 40 bucks for the preview image, soon he's going to have preview images only for himself.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; preview images should not be kept behind a paywall. You're trying to market your game and build interest for the new update to try and attract new patrons, and the best way to do that is with teaser preview images that everybody can see. There's no real advantage to paying this much money just for the "privilege" of getting a couple of preview renders for each update, especially when all patrons and players will eventually see this image in the game anyway.

 

[Elsie Bray]

At this rate no one could even afford to see status reports.

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[Tumai]

Oh Boy 40 bucks for the preview image, soon he's going to have preview images only for himself.

He got a bunch of peops onto $30 (like Casmyr's dad ) and now he ups the ante to try to get them to increase ... getting seriously OTT.

 

[Gh0st_Harambe]

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[felicemastronzo]

I've said it before and I'll say it again; preview images should not be kept behind a paywall. You're trying to market your game and build interest for the new update to try and attract new patrons, and the best way to do that is with teaser preview images that everybody can see. There's no real advantage to paying this much money just for the "privilege" of getting a couple of preview renders for each update, especially when all patrons and players will eventually see this image in the game anyway.

on the one hand i don't want judging patreons, because in the end they pay for my game too, but i really don't understand how you can pay for a render, even a preview.
It really means not giving value to money

 

[Boy Blue]

Also, as I said previously, Quinn's promises to Camila that she won't have to do what she doesn't want to are hollow because in these situations, someone in Camila's position will eventually be made to because the person in Quinn's position will now feel they own that person and be able to make them do more extreme things with threats of violence and/or ruining their lives in some way if they don't comply.

A little judgmental if you ask me. So why don't you keep your almighty, brilliant point finger from elysium and above in your tunic.
Everything you said is true but based on probability. The only one lied and maybe coerced because of her situation to was maya because quinn wanted her to fail, everyone else had a choice. let's focus on what actually happened in game.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; preview images should not be kept behind a paywall. You're trying to market your game and build interest for the new update to try and attract new patrons, and the best way to do that is with teaser preview images that everybody can see. There's no real advantage to paying this much money just for the "privilege" of getting a couple of preview renders for each update, especially when all patrons and players will eventually see this image in the game anyway.

That is true, maybe he is doing this so people stopping sharing. Did you handle the reddit situation yet?

on the one hand i don't want judging patreons, because in the end they pay for my game too, but i really don't understand how you can pay for a render, even a preview.
It really means not giving value to money

True....man $40 for a picture is too much

 

[godkingxerxes]

He got a bunch of peops onto $30 (like Casmyr's dad ) and now he ups the ante to try to get them to increase ... getting seriously OTT.

Yes he's getting thirsty, maybe it'll work again and people will jump up but he also risks pissing people off and them leaving.

I been contemplating for awhile to throw some money at Pinkcakes, but then he pulls stunts like this and just doesn't make any sense to give him 20 bucks a month when he spits on it and asks for more.

 

[Andre Young]

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40 dollars for a preview, wtf.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

An exact match to my own reaction.

on the one hand i don't want judging patreons, because in the end they pay for my game too, but i really don't understand how you can pay for a render, even a preview.
It really means not giving value to money

It's the hollow victory of early access; some people may feel quite smug about the fact that they got to see the out-of-context render months before the vast majority, but we'll all eventually see it and in the proper context so it matters very little that they get to see it early.

40 bucks for a preview, wtf.
Who will be this madame, a new character ??

"Madame" or "Madam", however you want to spell it, can be a term applied to a female brothel owner or simply any woman who prostitutes girls. It can also be used as part of femdom to address the dominatrix. So it's either got something to do with Quinn or maybe Cathy's special renders were a foreshadowing of what the MC is in for.

A little judgmental if you ask me. So why don't you keep your almighty, brilliant point finger from elysium and above in your tunic.
Everything you said is true but based on probability. The only one lied and maybe coerced because of her situation to was maya because quinn wanted her to fail, everyone else had a choice. let's focus on what actually happened in game.

It's not that judgemental because, as I've said a few times in this thread, I've had experience dealing with and talking to people from Quinn's walk of life and it often does start off with them feeling they're in control of what they do and they can back out whenever they want, but then they find out they can't and they start getting forced to do more and more they don't want to do because they can't see a way out until it's too late and they get caught.

That is true, maybe he is doing this so people stopping sharing. Did you handle the reddit situation yet?

I responded but haven't heard back, although I am keeping high tier stuff like this off the subreddit just in case.

 

[thehxr]

$45 leak

 

[felicemastronzo]

It's the hollow victory of early access; some people may feel quite smug about the fact that they got to see the out-of-context render months before the vast majority, but we'll all eventually see it and in the proper context so it matters very little that they get to see it early.

but if you can't brag about it, what's the point?

when you see it you can't talk about it, when you can talk about it everyone has already seen it. moreover it is an asset that completely loses all value over time (both previews and renders)

 

[Holy Bacchus]

since everyone will eventually see your point is mute! he is just charging the opportunity cost of people who can not control their impulses or for whom 40 is the same as 1 pound for you! so he knows that it will leak eventually but as long as he can keep the lid on it for even just a few days he makes an extra 1000 euros and 1 week later he releases the image for free and it works as the bait for patreon! i can wait 2 years for the best deal some people can not wait 30 seconds! DPC is just monetizing his skills just like Quinn taught him!

Except that he doesn't release these high-tier preview renders for free a week later.

 

[Warscared]

Except that he doesn't release these high-tier preview renders for free a week later.

then he needs some marketing lessons! unless it gets released no matter what so he as no need to do it "officially" making it even more special! its the economical theory of scarcity! as long as it fulfills both functions of attracting attention and envy and makes the payer feel special it works!

call it the girlfriend experience of AVN`s!