VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[always86]

Well MC slept with Bella on the couch and that seemed to go ok. Maybe it's Jill's humping or some other reason which will come up sometime in the future.

Yes, Jill humping is my the theory I think most likely (therefore probably something completely different). The night terrors idea really doesn’t have a basis in anything, but being able to sleep next to MC could be seen as Bella being comfortable with him for an as yet unknown reason. (Going really depend, it’s possible Bella knew Lynette as they are the same age, and had same favourite song)

I think Jill could be a closet bi. It's being teased a little with Josy. Their close "relationship" is brought up several times in MC's internal monologues, in the phone bios, and the end of episode recaps. Then you have the possible sleep humping of Bella. So I don't think a Jill/Bella/MC threesome is that far-fetched. If it does happen, however, it will be a long way off.

I think Jill might be bi as well, but we also know she takes sex seriously, and doesn’t want to feel pressured. She might be the only virgin in the school. That said a few glasses of whine and some MC pro could get us all sorts of fun prizes. Though I can’t imagine it having a good end result if it does happen.

Josy & Jill & MC , is just too good to be true. What are the chance of DPC being kind enough to give us another possible threeway. "Hey You like Josy? and You like Jill? and you not intrested in Maya? Here is Josy and Jill together for you to enjoy , your Welcome" .
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I do like this idea, i Can’t decide if I’d rather see ‘big’ Jill top ‘little’ Josy or the other way round. Still something would need to happen with Maya and Josy, as I can’t see her cheating (Again)

I pick up on the idea that Jill is bisexual.

That Josy separates from Maya is impossible in my opinion. At the end of EP4 Josy clearly said that Maya has priority for her.

Therefore, Maya has to separate from Josy and that will only happen if she is forced to do so (father) or Josy keeps a secret that destroys the relationship between the two.

Even with a forced separation of the two, Josy will probably continue trying to stay in contact with Maya.

The tipping point could be MC. If MC actively decides for Maya and thus excludes Josy, that she saves herself in the arms of Jill.

But then the probability for a threesome Jill/Josy/MC is very low.

I guess it‘s also possible that on the grounds MC is in an open relationship with them, that Josy uses that as justification that she could have a threesome. A stretch but is it cheating if 2 thirds of the threesome are in a relationship?

 

[shazba]

Guys I heard some inside info that the title of ep 7 "True Colors" is in reference to Jill being a bi, which she will tell MC in this episode and they will proceed to have a threesome with Bella right after.

I think the Jill is bi theory is just the sort of drama DPC would love. It could be something that drives a wedge between Maya and Josy or Maya/Josy/MC. Depending on your choices, Jill and Josy might even get together on their own (if you don't pursue Jill or Josy).

I pick up on the idea that Jill is bisexual.

That Josy separates from Maya is impossible in my opinion. At the end of EP4 Josy clearly said that Maya has priority for her.

Therefore, Maya has to separate from Josy and that will only happen if she is forced to do so (father) or Josy keeps a secret that destroys the relationship between the two.

Even with a forced separation of the two, Josy will probably continue trying to stay in contact with Maya.

The tipping point could be MC. If MC actively decides for Maya and thus excludes Josy, that she saves herself in the arms of Jill.

But then the probability for a threesome Jill/Josy/MC is very low.

There are quite a lot of gay/bi, or speculatively gay/bi characters in the game:

• Bella: Alluded to with Jill
• Chad: I'll be shocked if he's not
• Jill: Alluded to with Bella
• Josy: Obviously
• Leon: He really wanted Jamie to do Arieth with him, Jamie thought she wouldn't fuck Leon if it wasn't a threesome but that was just what Leon led him to believe, leon's also self conscious about the way Lily explained the two dudes getting a threesome lapdance from her.
• Maya: Obviously
• Mel: It's more than just healthy competition with her and Sarah
• Nick: He totally has the hots for Vinny
• Quinn: She doesn't just put on a show around the MC, she kisses Riona during their heated arguments
• Riona: Same as Quinn
• Sarah: Same as Mel. These two are more interested in each other than they are the mc
• Troy: Possibly with Chad

Out of roughly 90 characters (at least those listed in the biographies) that's a pretty high percentage of LGBT - way to be progressive in a porn game DPC!

Do you think Jill is insecure? I think she knows what she has and rocks it by wearing that sexy lingerie or underwear. Keeps herself in shape with tennis and yoga and swallows wine like a good girl.

That scene in ep5 where she comes to the couch and asks the MC if she can join him. Boy I had an awkward talk with my priest at Sunday confession.
He asked me where he could find the game

I hope you didn't send the priest here!

You could corrupt him, I mean I'm pretty sure piracy is a sin...

 

[Kellermann]

Can’t decide if I’d rather see ‘big’ Jill top ‘little’ Josy or the other way round.

Like a great dane fucking chihuahua. or vice versa

 

[Warscared]

We're playing mafia in our off topic thread. We had felice and sombo in it but they chose concrete shoes.

Anyway wheres that wallpaper at
(If anyone wants to join come to the gulag gang we're just starting)

dude that is racist... playing Mafia with Italians is very rude... just play werewolf that is insulting to all the Mediterranean people, bunch of hairy bastards!

but then again what can one expect from people who live in the worlds toilet (and you heard it here kids for the 1st time ever someone stating the simple fact that the Mediterranean sea is the toilet of the world) that is why the Mediterranean as such warm water? its 500 million people taking a piss in it!

Also do not threaten kellerman or someone will be scrapping their teeth out of my boots! there is always a bigger fish then you and the last time i handled a bigger fish i had to gut him from the inside... the fucker swallowed me...

always86

freaking hell you are full of good points, never connected the dad´s favorite song to Bella favorite song... what if its the dad favorite song because it was lynette`s girl gang song? women have those things and lucky pants and shit!

Out of roughly 90 characters (at least those listed in the biographies) that's a pretty high percentage of LGBT - way to be progressive in a porn game DPC!

technically girls do not count unleass they are exclusive and not even wendy is exclusive... women are more fluid then guys so a 3.5% to 5% is actually very realistic!

furthermore gays having greater hurdles in life and sooner i can imagine that their need to deal with shit would make them somewhat smarter and more successful into getting into college then the base population from hence they came, actually the more conservative society the smartest they must be not to get caught!

that is also the reason why men are getting better and better grades as they reach college since the bad and average are being pushed out to make room for women who are already smarter then the average dude anyway!

 

[ename144]

Short answer no.

Longer answer there are a few bits of speculation. Mine is that Jill sleep humped Bella, (like with the MC). Bella was upset by this. Awkward when they then have to share a bed again.

Another possibility is they got drunk and fooled around. I don’t think this is likely since Bella says the first time she has felt sexual in 3 years is after making out with the MC.

Another speculation is something happened with Jill x Bella that caused Bella‘s husband to leave. I don’t think that’s the case. It’s certainly the biggest stretch of these speculations. IMO.

We’d all love a Jill Bella threesome so fingers crossed there is a sexual element to it. And it’s not Bella having a night terror and hitting Jill which is another speculation I had, without much evidence.

I'm generally skeptical of the Jill/Bella sexual backstory theories. But if we're being honest it's worth noting that Bella specifically mentions the MC being the first time a man has made her feel something sexual in a long time:

I think the Jill is bi theory is just the sort of drama DPC would love. It could be something that drives a wedge between Maya and Josy or Maya/Josy/MC. Depending on your choices, Jill and Josy might even get together on their own (if you don't pursue Jill or Josy).

DPC does love drama, but I sincerely hope this does not happen. If Josy falls in love with everyone she spends time with it will almost certainly doom the M&J romance (to say nothing of making Josy far less sympathetic). As a hopeless romantic and big fan of Maya and Josy, that would be a heavy blow.

I have completely different inside information. That Bella has wired her whole house with C4 and as soon as Jill enters the house Bella sprints out and ignites the C4 because she wants to have the MC all to herself.

That's... a surprisingly straightforward theory, Dalli.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The locked affinity isn't going to matter much in the next few episodes, but soon we'll see decisions that require a certain level of DIKitude.

Like we'll see something in episode 13 or so that requires massive DIK, and if you flirt with the light side you won't be able to save the day.

Doubt that. DPC (hopefully) is not going to lock game-changing and potentially life-saving moments behind a Status or Affinity check. If anything, such a moment will probably have a variation on the scene but won't stop you being part of the scene. For example, if there's a moment where a character is potentially facing certain danger, I don't see it being a case where if you're CHICK you'll go to them and if you're DIK you'll just stay at home. It will maybe just play out differently depending on Affinity/Status and also on flags from other moments in the game.

This reputation system is really weird, some scenes need dik or chik, can't be neutral...

Dude should trash the whole reputation system and just use a common sense approach based on your actions with the girls directly and those connected to them.

It's beyond lame you can't simply pursue the girls you like, you need to guess which reputation you need and most likely check a walkthrough

Having the 2 systems, Status and Affinity, is what I feel can be a bit of an issue. The Affinity has always been a bit confusing for some people because it involves such random and often not-so-big choices that seem to have a profound impact on how people perceive the MC, whereas the Status choices are the day-to-day decisions that feel more like they would have an impact on how people perceive him.

In my view, it could have worked similarly to what we currently have, but instead of Affinity and Major Choices knocking off portions of the bar, it would highlight relevant choices based on your Affinity and Status level. For example, if you were DIK Affinity and DIK Status, the choices that give +DIK points would be highlighted in DIK orange, and the higher you go up the Status bar (DIK, Huge DIK, Massive DIK), the more restrictive the choices become until you can no longer pick CHICK choices.

Plus neutral is some meta gaming shit, you don't get that playing without a guide or previous knowledge.

Not true. I've so far been able to get my Neutral Affinity purely by making all the decisions I wanted to make, and this is how it's worked out.

What there used to be one.

The Android port for Ep 5 was so badly broken that there hasn't been one since.

How to get Bella and Jill threesome?

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With a lot of hope because there isn't one so far.

Guys remember when Jill and MC both stayed over @ Bella's house and Jill was in Bella's bed. They had kind of an argument and Jill left to sleep on the couch with MC but I didn't quite get what it was about. Can anyone explain?

We don't know exactly what it was about, but I feel (and I think some others might agree) that it might indicate a possible intimate moment between the two.

Here's a post explaining my thoughts on it:

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First thing is that we know of only one friend Bella has, and that's Jill. Could there be another "friend" that she's referring to? Someone we don't know about? Perhaps, but right now, all we know of is Jill.

Second thing, the context of that scene in Ep 5 would seem to suggest that this thing that happened that Jill is trying to assure Bella won't happen again is between the 2 of them. They're essentially staring into each others eyes for a prolonged period of time until Bella abruptly ends the eye contact. It clearly makes Jill think about why she did that and then she says, "It's not going to happen again", which would seem to indicate that something similar to this may have happened before and it led somewhere, hence why Jill says it won't happen "again". Bella's line about, "I thought we had an understanding", suggests that they talked about whetever this was and likely agreed that it wouldn't happen again but also never to talk about it again, which is what Jill is doing and it leads to Bella's agitation.

I personally wouldn't go so far as to say they had a full-on lesbian relationship, but at the very least they may have made out with each other and possibly shed some clothes in the process. Maybe they would have gone all the way, but perhaps they were interrupted by James and this is why Bella asks for forgiveness from him.

To me, it seems like there's an indication something happened between Bella and Jill and honestly, if this turns out to not be the case, then DPC will have thrown the biggest red herring into this game because it's hard to see what else this could be about.

I think something is going to drive Maya and Josy apart (if only temporarily). Whether it be Maya Dad (Josy leaves Maya thinking she is helping her not hurting her), MC's affections (your game choices), or Jill (MC rejects Jill, crazy for some I know). DPC simply cannot resist drama like that and every love story needs a point in the narrative where lovers are driven apart only to have to work to get back together.

On the non-M&J path, sure, because they won't have the MC as an intimate partner who is closer to the situation, but on the friend path something will probably happen, most likely the separation of Josy going to live at the HOTs in order to hide from Maya's Dad making another surprise appearance. It might not seem like much, but neither Josy or Maya will like it, especially Josy, and I reckon if you're only friends with them, you won't have moments where you can talk to them about it which makes them feel easier about it, hence why the friends path will lead to solo routes because he isn't as there for them as he would be on the M&J path.

 

[Kellermann]

Going through wallpaper withdrawl. someone call forth the heroes

 

[AchedCroissant]

I think Jill could be a closet bi. It's being teased a little with Josy. Their close "relationship" is brought up several times in MC's internal monologues, in the phone bios, and the end of episode recaps. Then you have the possible sleep humping of Bella. So I don't think a Jill/Bella/MC threesome is that far-fetched. If it does happen, however, it will be a long way off.

In the end Josy is the real MC of the game

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Going through wallpaper withdrawl. someone call forth the heroes

Not much anyone can do right now when it hasn't been released yet.

 

[Ennoch]

Not much anyone can do right now when it hasn't been released yet.

I don't think you made it more bearable for him! Practice shameless lying!

 

[Kellermann]

In the end Josy is the real MC of the game

I meant to click the thinking emoji, but ehh, sure have a like anyway.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I believe that one of the great revelations will be revealed when
we read the contents of Pete's letter to Josy.

She's read it and not said anything about it, so it's clearly nothing.

 

[ename144]

I believe that one of the great revelations will be revealed when
we read the contents of Pete's letter to Josy.

I doubt we'll ever read it. Josy reads it if you go with Maya in Episode 5, and she never comments on anything in particular about it. So my guess is it just contains the sort of personal memories and best wishes you'd expect. Very meaningful for Josy, not particularly interesting for us.

 

[shazba]

I believe that one of the great revelations will be revealed when
we read the contents of Pete's letter to Josy.

She's read it and not said anything about it, so it's clearly nothing.

Based on the dad's style, and their relationship (prior to the fight), I'm sure he just wrote some typical warm and mushy father/daughter stuff like he's proud of her, she's growing into a wonderful woman, she's an adult now and it's time for him to start letting go, she has a lovely perky tits, her ass is to die for, you know, typical father/daughter stuff like that. What? F95 is my reference for how family relationships work...

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think something is going to drive Maya and Josy apart (if only temporarily). Whether it be Maya Dad (Josy leaves Maya thinking she is helping her not hurting her), MC's affections (your game choices), or Jill (MC rejects Jill, crazy for some I know). DPC simply cannot resist drama like that and every love story needs a point in the narrative where lovers are driven apart only to have to work to get back together.

You need to get out of this topic!!! Get some fresh air!!!

Maybe it's not too late...

I believe that one of the great revelations will be revealed when
we read the contents of Pete's letter to Josy.

why should the letter with which Josy's father wants to express his love to his daughter contain special revelations?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

this actually makes sense in my theory that Tommy as pushed away every boyfriend Josy had until Maya and that is why she is so insecure and in need for people to like her, and she confuses the good feelings of getting attention with the need to reciprocate romantically or emotionally as a "please love me and do not hurt me" kind of deal!

this also as the coin reverse of deep resentment at not being loved as she "deserves" as her hatred of Tommy shows that... imagine that that resentment is still there towards Maya and M asks her to sacrifice her happiness once more... how long until she breaks into tears and frustration that leads her to seek a stupid revenge with Dawe?

No, it doesn't make sense. She's a child of divorce and cheating parents, she doesn't need someone like Tommy pushing away guys she likes to make her feel a certain desperation for love. People like that go 1 of 2 ways; either they're cynical about love and romance and keep people at an arms length, or they covet a loving relationship so much that they desperately seek it at all costs. Josy seems a bit like the latter in that she was in a loving relationship with Maya, but then that feeling faded, and so she set her sights on another prospect in the MC.

You may be right.

But I can't get rid of the feeling that this letter will play a role in the meeting between Josy/Maya/MC and the father.

It won't.

 

[Anthony11553]

fr tho don't be a simp my boys

 

[shazba]

You need to get out of this topic!!! Get some fresh air!!!

Maybe it's not too late...

why should the letter with which Josy's father wants to express his love to his daughter contain special revelations?

Maybe he wants to tell her that while he loves her very much, he wasn't her real father and that he adopted when her real mother died giving birth to her and her twin brother!

 

[Anthony11553]

Whenever i see Arieth i now think of Future's "She belongs to the streets"

 

[Princess Yana ♥]

About to replay the whole game for the third time round, seriously this is the best game yet, DPC is a genius. DIK path this time