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Holy Bacchus

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This is probably my favorite theory regarding Jill. It would really bring closer together if true and most importantly isn't too far fetched.
Possible, but given the ages of the two I think it's more likely for Bella to possibly be a friend of Lynette's.

There's still some ambiguity with regards to when Lynette died and when Jill's sister died in terms of how old they were when it happened. I believe Lynette was 18 when she ran away with Neil, but when was the MC born? When she was 19? 20? 21? We also don't know exactly what the age difference was between Jill and her sister or how old she was when she died. Though judging from the picture in Jill's room, it doesn't appear that there's at least an 18 year difference between them, but Bella is of an age where she, when Lynette was 18, would have been the same age.

However, Lynette has already mentioned the name of two of her friends, Miranda and Viv, so unless Bella changed her name from Miranda to Isabella, any connection of Lynette to her may likely be a nothing burger.

Assuming MC has been lied to for life, she could still be alive and provide a dramatic story frame when MC learns that his mother is alive.
But as I said, it undercuts that first emotional connection moment with Jill as it becomes a part of his bond with Jill. Having her return alive and well simply ruins that because it makes that moment superfluous.

But it is unlikely. Why would a mother abandon her child?
That makes no sense at all.
Well, it does happen fairly often in the real world, so I'm sure there are lots of possible reasons to choose from, but it won't happen anyway so it's not worth wondering about.

I'm going to laugh so hard when you all realize how wrong you are.
The feeling is mutual.
 

Holy Bacchus

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When I read Lynette's diary in MC, my first thought was that she wasn't running away with Neil.
My first thought was that she was running away with a woman. Which led me to believe that she was in a lesbian relationship and probably met Neil later.
No. She was simply talking about how her friend Miranda had the idea to let her stay with her so she wouldn't have to move with her Dad to the place where he was building this hotel complex.

And now I see where the crazy theories come from when you looked into something that was very simple like that. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Tserriednich'sNen

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Possible, but given the ages of the two I think it's more likely for Bella to possibly be a friend of Lynette's.

There's still some ambiguity with regards to when Lynette died and when Jill's sister died in terms of how old they were when it happened. I believe Lynette was 18 when she ran away with Neil, but when was the MC born? When she was 19? 20? 21? We also don't know exactly what the age difference was between Jill and her sister or how old she was when she died. Though judging from the picture in Jill's room, it doesn't appear that there's at least an 18 year difference between them, but Bella is of an age where she, when Lynette was 18, would have been the same age.

However, Lynette has already mentioned the name of two of her friends, Miranda and Viv, so unless Bella changed her name from Miranda to Isabella, any connection of Lynette to her may likely be a nothing burger.
If Jills sister had about 10-13 years on her (roughly Bella's age) then her age would be similar enough to Lynette's.
 

Holy Bacchus

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If Jills sister had about 10-13 years on her then her age would be similar enough to Lynette's.
I don't think the maths is quite right on that one.

One thing we know is that Lynette had just turned 18 when she met Neil. Now, she could have got pregnant and given birth when she was still 18, and presumably her friends Miranda and Viv are the same age as her or a bit older. By the time the MC was born, Jill would either be 2 years old or close to it. This would mean that Jill's sister would have to be at least 16 years older than her in order for her to be either of those friends mentioned by Lynette, and presuming that picture in Jill's room is of her and her sister (which is very likely), there doesn't appear to be an age gap that wide.

The only question is, who shits on the board?
The person who keeps saying they're right and everybody else is wrong, and that people will owe them an apology when they believe they'll be proven so. :rolleyes:
 
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Tserriednich'sNen

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I don't think the maths is quite right on that one.

One thing we know is that Lynette had just turned 18 when she met Neil. Now, she could have got pregnant and given birth when she was still 18, and presumably her friends Miranda and Viv are the same age as her or a bit older. By the time the MC was born, Jill would either be 2 years old or close to it. This would mean that Jill's sister would have to be at least 16 years older than her in order for her to be either of those friends mentioned by Lynette, and presuming that picture in Jill's room is of her and her sister (which is very likely), there doesn't appear to be an age gap that wide.
She can be a few years younger. They don't have to be the same exact age.
 

Holy Bacchus

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She can be a few years younger. They don't have to be the same exact age.
Well, I don't see her being as little as 10-13 years older than Jill, as that would only have made her 12-15 when Lynette was 18 and a friendship of that age difference seems unlikely. Also, from how Lynette wrote about them, it would seem likely they were closer to the same age.

Do we know Neil's exact age?
Neil was 24 when he met Lynette, so he's at least 43 now (24+19).
 
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godkingxerxes

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I don't think the maths is quite right on that one.

One thing we know is that Lynette had just turned 18 when she met Neil. Now, she could have got pregnant and given birth when she was still 18, and presumably her friends Miranda and Viv are the same age as her or a bit older. By the time the MC was born, Jill would either be 2 years old or close to it. This would mean that Jill's sister would have to be at least 16 years older than her in order for her to be either of those friends mentioned by Lynette, and presuming that picture in Jill's room is of her and her sister (which is very likely), there doesn't appear to be an age gap that wide.



The person who keeps saying they're right and everybody else is wrong, and that people will owe them an apology when they believe they'll be proven so. :rolleyes:
Literally everyone is against the pigeon because he's totally illogical. To be clear, it's not holy bacchus who is the pigeon.
Not everybody, only a few people, who seem to believe they make up a majority of the people, quite egotistical if you ask me though. But I honestly don't expect reading comprehension from people who can't tell the difference between red and brown when there is an example of both on the same scene.
 
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shazba

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But I also understand the other point of view. There is no explicit proof that she is alive or dead.
There's no explicit proof to the player... The dad was there, he would have seen her burial or cremation. He's not gonna forget or confuse something like that... But yes, we don't see that scene.

There's literally no evidence or even the slightest indication that the dad is a liar. He's a very genuine, good dad who raised his son to have good morals.

Is there a possibility that the dad is hiding the truth? Sure. Is there the possibility that the dad is actually an alien and has been grooming the mc to save the universe? Sure. Are any of these indicated so far in the game? Absolutely not.

So yes, any random theory that has no basis from within the game can be stated, but just because it can't be refuted with proof, doesn't make it a good theory...

So:
  • The dad lying about the MC's mom's death is not based on any evidence in the game whatsoever. It's not a good theory.
  • The dad being an alien and grooming the mc to save the universe is not based on any evidence in the game whatsoever. It's not a good theory.
Pinkcakes intentionally wrote Neil to be unreliable. Unreliable Narrators mislead the reader on purpose
The dad isn't an unreliable narrator. He's not even a narrator.

The mc's quote regarding the dad's (un)reliability is as follows:

"My mother died shortly after giving birth to me."​
"It's a shame that I never got to meet her."​
"I would have loved hearing stories from her past and truly getting to know her."​
"Sure, my dad told me stories growing up...but his memory sucked."​
"He would always forget the punchline. Not surprising, since he would talk so long before reaching the point where the punchline was supposed to be."​

The only example we get of this is as follows:

Neil: "But your mom, stubborn as a mule, didn't give up that easily."​
Neil: "It took her three days to run away from home and track me down."​
Neil: "No...wait...five days?"​
Neil: "Hm...maybe it was something along the lines of a week?"​
mc: "Are you seriously asking me that?"​
Neil: "No, well, it was something like that."​
Neil: "Either way...where was I?"​
Neil: "Oh yeah!"​
Neil: "She didn't want her dad's life or his money..."​

So he rambles a bit, loses the point a bit, and inconsequential details like how many weeks between him leaving and Lynette coming to find him are not crystal clear. In no way does that make the core of his stories unreliable, or does it set him up to be a liar. What, he just forgot that Lynette didn't die?

When the mc says the dad's memory sucked, he then followed it up with an example ("forget the punchline", "talk so long before reaching the point"). It doesn't give the impression his dad has Alzheimers...

Do we know Neil's exact age and the difference between that and Lynette's age?
Neil: "Your mom was a very beautiful woman. I was 24 and she had just turned 18."​

Not everybody, only a few people, who seem to believe they make up a majority of the people, quite egotistical if you ask me though. But I honestly don't expect reading comprehension from people who can't tell the difference between red and brown when there is an example of both on the same scene.
Dude, why you gotta get so snarky? This is just good, healthy discussion about fictional characters in a porn game.
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shazba

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On the subject of hair. Which hairstyle/color suits Sage the best:

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I think she looks HOTter with it down, but can't decide between her natural red or the vibrant red of her past.
 

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Says the person who believes themselves to be 100% empirically correct on everything and that people owe them an apology for casting serious doubt on their claims. :rolleyes:
Everything I posted was a theory, for fun, on a discussion forum.

It's you who countered with a "no you're wrong I'm right" based on a single line of dialogue.

To which I responded with I'm going to laugh at you people being wrong, because watching egos deflate is entertaining.

But sure, keep projecting.
 

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On the subject of hair. Which hairstyle/color suits Sage the best:

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I think she looks HOTter with it down, but can't decide between her natural red or the vibrant red of her past.
Hair up Sage is best Sage. most of the girls look better after getting a makeover from season 1
 
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