I gotta play Quinn's Advocate here because I recently finished the episode and that interaction is still fresh in my mind. Tommy lost that argument hard and backpedaled the entire time. Quinn is right - Tommy isn't in the game, it's none of his business what Quinn does and when she points that out, he deflects and says she hurt the DIKs by going back on her promise about the party. Quinn then rightly points out that Tommy's ruined more parties by fucking with the tri-alphas (remember the entire feud with the tri-alphas is Tommy's fault). Quinn then points out that Tommy blamed her for the mansion being broken and surprisingly Tommy apologizes for that.
So yeah, Tommy was acting uncharacteristically reasonable, but that still doesn't make Quinn wrong. She didn't owe Tommy shit in that particular situation, Tommy's hurt the DIKs far more than she has and any personal loyalty Tommy thinks he's owed from Quinn is his own selfish expectation. Quinn has to do what she has to do, but Tommy expects her to show more loyalty to the DIKs than he himself shows. He's a shitty vice, was a terrible father to the MC and even punched him (beat his ass for that), started the whole shit with the tri's, cheats on Heather (better believe I told her about it, gonna fuck the Tommy out of her ASAP), does drugs, etc etc. Fuck that bitch.
I can't agree at all; no matter how badly Quinn needed the money, there was no excuse not to tell Tommy and/or Rusty the HOTs were ditching so the DIKs could make other plans. That was Tommy's point, and on that point he was 100% correct. Not only was that Quinn's job (explicitly given to her by Sage), but it's the sort of basic courtesy any friend should do for another. Instead, Quinn ducked the responsibility leading to a completely predictable clusterfuck, then lashed out when people called her on her mistake.
Pointing out all the Tri-Alpha parties Tommy ruined is a bizarre defense, because Tommy has never had anything but contempt for the jocks. Are we supposed to take that as an indication Quinn hates Tommy and the DIKs? That seems unlikely, and yet here we are. Quinn would rather avoid a tough conversation than admit she might need some help - even when (as Tommy pointed out) there was no way to avoid that conversation permanently.
Quinn is completely in the wrong on this. I think that's precisely
why she's so angry about it; it's hard to maintain her self-image as a cunning chessmaster when her pawns can easily point out her mistakes. Unfortunately, the only way Quinn seems able to deal with that dichotomy is to completely stonewall any sense of introspection and lash out whoever tries to help her make the connection.
And I think that says everything we need to know about Quinn. She's on some industrial-strength denial.
All that being said, Quinn does have problems with admitting she's wrong, no doubt. The way she treated Riona was bullshit and if my MC knew about that he'd cockslap Quinn for it. But she does eventually accept Riona's advice, so there's hope for her to be reasonable. Quinn's quickly digging herself into a pit, and I personally suspect it's going to backfire on Riona somehow with this stalker shit. Hopefully we can stop that if we help her. That might be a wakeup call for Quinn to accept she's in too deep.
Given that the only way to help Riona is to fuck her, I'm hoping she'll be okay without our help, too.
And frankly, I'm skeptical this will make much of an impact on Quinn either way, unless the connection between her own actions and what happens to Riona is extremely short and extremely direct. Quinn's mental filter is too strong for any sort of indirect consequence to break through.
How's this for a knee-jerk reaction: I hope ep 8 starts with Sage looking at the picture MC sent her of Chad kissing Troy, then smashcuts to Sage and MC kicking the shit out of both of them with Josy in the corner schlicking to the raw display of pure DIKery we lay upon them. Chad's an asshole, presently and in the flashback we see, and he let beef be started with the DIKs over fucking Arieth. Arieth. Uses steroids, endangering the tri-alphas, puts Sage and probably Troy through shit because he isn't man enough to admit he's gay. Similarly to Tommy, fuck that bitch.
All love about your comments though, just giving my two cents, just have some harsh thoughts I need to get out.
Chad was an asshole, I'm not eager to defend him. But I don't think lunging straight to blunt, violent retribution is the best way to handle this sort of situation.
Besides, I don't understand why Chad deserves a beating for all his sins while Quinn gets the soft glove treatment despite her putting both Sage and Maya through a considerable share of shit on her own (and that's before her little pimping ring has been discovered - it can get
much worse for Sage!). Quinn also uses drugs, uses the HOTs for her own benefit, allows beefs to get started between the DIKs and HOTs, and (unlike Chad) takes a personal pleasure in tormenting those under her control; you'll note that Chad does not flip off the MC when walking away (even if the MC remained silent during the hearing).
It's one thing to advocate hyperbolic beatings to fictional characters that happen to be assholes, but it's another to claim that only certain assholes merit that treatment. The only bigger asshole in the game than Quinn is Burke. YMMV, obviously, but that's how I see it.
I never said that he instigated it, but I think it's a safe bet he did nothing to protect Troy. Even if he couldn't protect Troy in that toxic Alpha environment, he could still stand up to them and at least leave with him. Of course that's true only if he actually loves him.
I wouldn't compare them to Maya-Josy because in their case they actually chose each other when they aren't in love with the mc. True, as they are main LIs we an actually know what they are thinking. Also I don't think the Hot sorority would be that toxic for a lesbian couple, I mean most of them pretty much sleep with anything and everything.
Chad could have quit the Tri-Alphas in support of Troy, that is true. But we don't know exactly what that would have entailed, so it's hard to say how easy it would have been.
It's clear Chad enjoys the jock culture aside from the homophobia; he seemed very eager to compete in whatever even is happening next year even after being tossed out. If we assume the homophobic culture of the jocks pervades the rest of the "weightlifting/bodybuilding/whatever" world, Chad resigning in solidarity with Troy might have prevented him from participating in future events - to say nothing of the heightened risk his relationship with Troy would come out.
Obviously it would be better for Chad to take a stand and begin to change that culture, but that's asking
a lot for him to do on his own. I'll give mad props to anyone willing to do it, but I'll never blame anyone for wanting to avoid it when there are other, far less painful, options.
Which, IMHO, is basically the deal with Maya and Josy. Maya
could simply come out and be with Josy openly, accepting whatever consequences follow. She chooses not to, because the risks are very high and she thinks she can endure the discomfort long enough to remove her father's threat and still be with Josy. Whether or not she's right, it's not a position that should be dismissed out of hand.
Likewise, Chad probably thought that he was in a better position to protect Troy by hiding their relationship and remaining in charge of the jocks than he was going public and being stripped of his presidency (and possibly ability to compete in jock events altogether). We'll have to wait to learn more about what happened with Troy, but I would not be surprised to learn he WAS trying to keep Troy safe from the other jocks.
My sad and unrequired dream is for Dr Pinkcake to allow DIK to end up with all the girls but make it so much harder and with less scenes.
I don't know why but IMO DIK is the best character for MC because he's confident and a little bit snarky, really good with women but also caring & with lots of empathy when specific time comes (I mean times when alignment doesn't really matter).
That kinda sums up the qualities I believe are the best in mean (without being snarky with everyone but really good friends).
And my choice wasn't affected by the ammounts of scenes you can get (because this is a game where I came to fap and ended up loving the characters) but the character you're playing in this world.
MC who's DIK is like typical playboy, alpha male, player but at the same time he does have qualities (by default) of a provider.
And this story is so good I sometimes wish it didn't have typical gaming features like alignments. Because ideal man is 50/50 DIK/CHICK and it's impossible in the BaDIK
I also understand why in the story some girls would choose a provider rather than a player but I wonder why some players enjoy playing as CHICK... Is it because of the girls or maybe because you align with this version of MC more?
I would love some people to share their opinions with me on this
Personally, I find the CHICK path more compelling because I find the resulting crude behavior and obsession with casual sex unpleasant. Simple as that. CHICK's still get opportunities for snark, after all.
The guide is correct: calling Sage is only mandatory if you're her fuck buddy. Otherwise it's optional.
That's the loophole I used on my Jill-centric run; just assume he didn't realize Sage was sick and thus had no reason to turn Jill down. Otherwise, as everyone has already said, ditching on a sick friend to have a spontaneous date with another girl (that could easily be postponed, as far as the MC knows) is a real dick move.
Really, DPC should have scheduled the date with Jill first, to make it a much less one-sided choice.
I kinda agree with that, at first i saw her as a good caring girl, but rich, powerful and confident; now it's clear she is just a scared virgin, i think drpinkcake went waaaaay too much with her writing, he really fucked up.
Yes, Jill is turning out to be a much less interesting character than it first appeared, which is a real shame. Virgin drama is tiresome IHMO, but the real problem is her egregious stupidity.
Tybalt has never made a secret of his elitist views, yet Jill still seems surprised at the contents of his anti-welfare presentation. Plus, she recognizes that Tybalt is blackmailing her to have dates with him and agreed to his terms... but apparently never realized that she'd actually have to go on those dates! It takes a week for her just to beg Bella to get her out of the mess she specifically volunteered for! Bella can lampshade it all she likes, that makes no sense.
I mean, I want to sympathize with Jill; making a sacrifice for a loved one is a classic trope. But this has to be one of the worst implementations of it I've ever seen. On top of that, the game makes it clear that Tybalt is
zero (zip, zilch, nada) threat to the MC. He's an incompetent boob who's been nothing but a laughingstock for 7 episodes running, and his punishments keep getting worse! The way this game is going, if he did try to get the MC in legal trouble, Tybalt would probably wind up tortured by Jack Bauer on suspicion of terrorism.
Frankly, this has been a mess. I'm hoping Jill can recover if this blasted blackmail subplot finally dies, but it's sure taking its sweet time dying.
personal preferences i guess
i bet most of people here are on fuck buddy ( i was on this as well actually ) or Sage path
after reading her whole dialogue being on massive chick route
i prefer this Sage than the fuck buddy one,
Well, my main route is Maya/Josy, exclusive so I've seen all the friendship Sage path stuff. And I've been hoping we would get another chance to date her properly when Chad finally broke up with her. That said, I was a little disappointed that the scene plays out as just an over-the-top sex fest with no real discussion of what else might happen between them.
I mean, I get that Sage likes sex, doesn't like introspection, and isn't ready to leap into a new relationship. But I would think an MC (particularly a CHICKish one) who didn't feel comfortable cheating with Sage would want something a little more involved than a very public roll in the hay with Sage. Maybe it's just me, but I think I'm slightly less enthusiastic about my planned CHICK Sage non-fuck buddy run now than I was back before I knew it would be possible.
On a similar note, it's odd that fuck buddies automatically want more with Sage this time out, without any say so on our part. Perhaps that would create too much branching even for DPC. It's clear the whole "rebound guy" issue is going to be a thing for a while. I guess we'll see what happens when Episode 8 rolls around and we the MC and Sage have time to explore their new relationship outside the heat of the moment.
I'm on a second CHICK playthrough, to supplement my first DIK playthrough. My first time through, in episode 3, I chose to "party without limits". In this Chick playthru, I'm wondering whether I should choose "let Derek do the DIK stuff". Does this choice get me any new scenes or anything good aside from more CHICK status?
I've chosen every CHICK choice so far, so I can afford one DIK choice if I dont' want to miss it. Mostly I'm interested in unlocking as many scenes as possible.
To date there are no scenes that appear only if the MC declined to party at the Pink Rose. It's possible that could change, but my guess is you can safely party if you want to. The real question is why a CHICK would want to.
(The answer, of course, is Nicole, but the MC won't know that at the time.
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Josy is torn right now. She loves Maya but Maya is being distant with Josy due to the HOT situation. MC is there as a shoulder for both of them to cry on which will only strengthen the bond each one has with MC. MC even says to Josy that they could use his room as a meeting place safely. Unless you want it to happen, I don't think there will be a split between the throuple.
If there is one however, with the relationship as it is right now, it's safe to say that Josy and MC have a stronger connection with each other.
Josy can even have dialog on this. If the MC in the throuple "seduces" Josy, she'll admit:
Interestingly, if the if the MC isn't on her path but still has feelings for her, she can say this instead if the MC "comforts" her:
It's pretty clear Josy has very strong feelings for the MC despite her feelings for Maya. I think, in vacuum, she would choose Maya over the MC if it came down to it, because as she says, she doesn't want to be a cheater. But as we saw back in Episode 2, when things aren't in a vacuum it's not certain how she would act. If Maya keeps taking her frustrations out on Josy, she probably would choose the MC over Maya.
As I see it, that means the key to keeping Maya & Josy together is to help them find healthier ways to express their fears and frustrations when they can't be together. The real question is how to combine that with being a direct part of their relationship.
At first I thought that Maya and Josy could be inseparable. But in this chapter, I have changed that thought.
I think that at this moment Josy spends more time with MC due to the fact that she wants things to calm down with Maya first.
And I think if she had to choose, she would choose Maya, but not for love, she would choose Maya for feeling like it's the right thing to do
Let's remember that in the first place she was unfaithful to Maya with MC. There we can already see the preference. I feel like she prefers MC, but she wouldn't leave Maya just for not hurting her.
I sincerely hope it will be possible to end up with both of them; I'm going to feel really bad if I end up having to drop out of the trio (or worse, picking one of them over the other). I've played a lot of AVNs that offer multi-girl routes, but BaDIK is the only one that's actually made me genuinely invested in such a relationship to anywhere near this degree.
I *think* it will be possible if we play our cards right, but I'm not sure. I'm not even sure exactly what playing our cards right will be. Makes for a very nerve-wracking experience, but I certainly can't claim I'm not invested.
It doesn't really seem to have a negative effect on Josy. She is supportive with Jill, Follow your heart. it's just a little awkward because they are friends. That was more about Jill facing the reality. "SweetHeart ,. You can't escape having competition"
Speaking of Josy, it's me or DPC actually did make her Hotter ?
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She was hot in ep 5 and before, but man this ep 7 . Her ASS, HEr whole body
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It's a next level in ep 7. and She gonna go to Gym with MC
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Nah, Josy's always been hands down the hottest girl in the game. She's just increasingly comfortable showing off to the MC.
