VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Casmyr]

that was the worst update for me , so much grinding lesser action and i never feel the character development , waiting for future updates.
( Question ; is dating app like tinder gone for good ? )

worst update. Bro. Troll harder

 

[mr.AwesomeGameTaste]

Interesting points regarding Quinn have been made in this thread, just wanted to discuss those because they do make an interesting case even though most points that are talked about heavily can be easily debunked, at least partially.

1. Dealing drugs - this is pretty weak in and of itself because she hasn't been distributing any illegal drugs before that 8-ball that she still has at her disposal, which is a recent occurrence. Xanax, testosterone, sugar pills, and marijuana (which is decriminalized in most U.S. states) are all legal drugs, I would advise Quinn to set up a legal entity with a license in order to distribute it legally because there's no real issue apart from legal technicalities. Also also, flushing that fresh coke down the toilet would be a smart move, she already looks at it at the end of the episode if you play your cards right View attachment 1180331 View attachment 1180332
2. Prostitution - this has grounds, however, it is situational and does not apply to every HOT or pledge and needs more explanation. Josy, Lily, Ashley, Maya - don't remember them ever complaining about it or 'being forced' to sell themselves to anyone. This issue only arose with Mona and that will probably be expanded upon in the future. Camila is the only other pledge that got involved, alongside the HOTs Sarah, Melanie, and Riona who (from the looks of it) do it voluntarily and don't have any issues with it as they probably get a cut from it.
3. Bullying 'everybody' - this has the strongest grounds out of all three, but then again, this doesn't apply to 'anyone in sight'. You could of course consider calling someone 'a shrimp' or 'a pervert' to be bullying, but to me, it isn't so, especially when it can progress to her calling you 'babe' later on View attachment 1180334 View attachment 1180335 In the end, let's see what the future brings for Quinn because her arc has been one of the most intriguing ones to follow so far View attachment 1180343

TBH Quinn is the most complex character, her arc and Sage being smart and more than just popular party girl are what keeps me interested. Lily and Riona showed some potentialto have cool arc and im all for it. HOTs all the way for me

 

[Picc4h]

that was the worst update for me , so much grinding lesser action and i never feel the character development , waiting for future updates.
( Question ; is dating app like tinder gone for good ? )

Worst update? really? lmao
This was probably one of the best episodes, the only thing wrong with this update is the whole rebound guy thing out of nowhere, but that was it.
Some people really just won't be happy and can't be satisfied.

 

[Milo-Otis]

Absolutely

apart from dealing drugs, arranging dates for prostitutes, bullying anyone in sight (including her friend Riona), Quinn is really just a scared little girl waiting for someone to take her by the hand

and read her her rights.

Dealing Weed come on now, Buddy is very obviously surprised when she asks for coke, and we know its because she's in some sort of tight corner monetarily, even if we don't know why, she's being pushed into it. It's not meth, or heroin, or pcp, its just Weed.

The prostitute ring is another way to make money for her but its made from willing women, camilla, riona, and mona are all willing to do it, they aren't coerced. They also obviously get free tuition out of it from the money Quinn makes, and they made a conscious decision to do it because of that. When Quinn blackmails Mona I don't think it's to force her to keep being a prostitute, it's because Quinn is terrified that right when she needs it most, one of her main avenues of income is going to get busted.

A lot has also been made of her bullying Riona, but she doesn't bully her that hard, she is upfront and honest. Yeah it's not a nice thing to say, but you don't see Riona arguing back that she actually could make it through college on her intellect alone. Quinn and Riona are obviously pretty close friends, and it sounded to me more like a real freakout Quinn was having about her worsening situation in the company of someone she can be blunt with instead of just mean-spirited shit-flinging. As for everyone else, yeah like I said above, Quinn is abrasive, but that's a type of personality, and it comes with her being fun, and having a sense of humor.

Ironically, she literally is a scared little girl waiting for someone to take her by the hand. I mean she's tough and mean but she obviously likes the shit she's feeling for the MC, even if at the same time she doesn't like it because it scares her.

 

[AchedCroissant]

After Tommy walked out of Quinn's room, yes, she had tears in her eyes. I kind of feel sorry for Quinn.

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[ename144]

Out of all the answers to my question, this actually makes the most sense. ( Not that others are complete hogwash, they all had merit) I can definitely understand Quinn sensing Maya's disdain and going all antagonist on her from the get go.

Also, timeline wise, Maya met Quinn technically earlier than MC, and the very first act they had her do was setting her on MC, in a pretty brutal way. ( ALso, that apology from Sarah, genuine it might be, made me sick. You literally used her to amuse yourselves, now you're all "I'm sorry") (I really don't like Sarah.)

I don't like Sarah much either, but I can see how she didn't realize her actions would hurt Maya as badly as they did. Maya was volunteering to join a sorority after all, and that normally involves some level of discomfort as part of the hazing process. Given how far apart Maya's comfort zone is from Sarah's, it's not shocking that Sarah misjudged it.

On top of that, Sarah didn't know that Maya was gay (as far as Maya knew), or how seriously desperate Maya was for the (non-existent) money. So she no doubt assumed this would be giving Maya a 'deniable' excuse for some vicarious fun, and that Maya would object if anything really crossed the line.

None of which excuses Sarah's actions: she should be erring on the side of caution when testing an unknown pledges limits - and really should get to know a daughter before hazing her at all. She should absolutely have put a stop to Quinn's lie about free tuition (assuming Sarah was aware of that, but I assume she was). And it shouldn't have taken Ashley guilt-tripping her to realize an apology was in order after Maya (and Mona) left.

But credit where it's due, in the end Sarah did apologize, which certainly surprised me.

Will she be redeemed, can't say but I definitely don't agree with the idea of no change. Quinn has done some horrible things but the story has made it clear that she is not happy with the path she is on.

Although given the nature of her character, a main character but not a main love interest, there is a good chance her redemption will be at the last minute.

I'm really not trying to bash Quinn, but could you explain why you think she's not happy with the path she's on? From my perspective, Quinn is perfectly happy with her path, she's just upset at all the obstacles on it. That's why she shot Tommy down the instant he asked for her to apologize.

It's the difference between being sorry you robbed a bank and being sorry you got caught.

I absolutely get that perspective. And if you're into characters like Maya and Josy, or if you're into the DIKs as a frat, she's a piece of shit. But, I think all of that is a facade. She's putting on the tough girl show for everyone to keep them at arms length and away from her delicate and damaged reality, which she is struggling more and more to hide from the MC. The MC is her gateway to, for lack of a better word, salvation. Just how I see it.

I agree Quinn is wearing a metaphorical mask, but not in the way that metaphor is usually used. She isn't putting on a facade to hide her true self, she's putting on a facade to express her true self more easily. The real Quinn, or at least the person Quinn aspires to be, is the hard-nosed, cutthroat asshole that does whatever she wants and takes no shit from anyone. The insecure, helpless girl represents all the failings Quinn wants to expunge from her psyche; indeed, she seems to have real trouble coping with reminders that she hasn't already done so.

I've said before that the Maya we see at the start of the game is Maya as she wishes she could be: kind, confident and flirtatious, free of all her anxiety and rejections. Quinn's "mask" is the DIK equivalent of that. It's probably one more reason why the two rub each other the wrong way - each aspires to be the other's antithesis.

Anyway, this is precisely why I think it's going to be much harder to 'change' Quinn than people might expect. It's not about allowing Quinn to express her hidden virtues, it's about convincing Quinn that the very core of her self-identity is worth letting go. That's not impossible, but it's going to take a hell of a lot to pull off - more than even the MC's vaunted magic penis.

Quinn is a character who does not act without thinking.

We understand why she acts like that towards Maya. She lets her apply because she needs fresh meat for her restaurant. When she realizes that Maya will not participate, she does everything to get rid of her.

On the other hand, her attitude towards Tommy is quite confusing. Not telling him that the HOTs won't be at the party, it's incomprehensible. Quinn is no fool, she knows what this decision is going to result in:

- piss off Tommy (why?)

- disappoint Sage who had told her to warn the DIK (why draw Sage's attention to her?)

I can't see what its objective here?

No, I'd say Quinn is most definitely a fool. She's intelligent, she's crafty, and she's certainly not gullible. But the game makes it clear that she is extremely foolish. She always lets her ambition override her caution. That's the point Riona's been trying to impress on Quinn for 4 episodes now, which predictable results.

Please help me with the mansion mission how i allocate the experience ? And how i make money for windows repair ?

There's a good guide in the OP, with links to other guides if you want more details. If you're really desperate for a solution, this will complete the whole minigame by the end of Episode 7 (it will still take time for the windows to be installed), but I think it would likely be more fun to try out solutions on your own.

 

[JamieSadistic]

First post here. This is quite the thread; almost 7000 pages! And some really good discussions. It's interesting to see how polarizing Quinn is with people here. She's either at the top or the bottom of tier lists.

Quinn
I feel like, as a player, I like Quinn more than the MC does (or should). The player is granted information that the MC doesn't have. So we see Quinn snuggle up against MC only after MC is passed out. We also see some of the struggle Quinn goes through with her money issues. (We also see some of the terrible things she does.)

I'm the kind of player that wants to fix broken people so Quinn's character is very appealing to me. When I get to see the real Quinn in those quiet, private moments my heart opens up to her. (By "real" I mean the glimpses of how Quinn might be if she wasn't in the deep shit she's in. Snuggling, thanking MC in Ch. 6 for stopping her bleeding and cleaning her up, wrapping her legs around MC in the kitchen in Ch 7 party.)

When they come for you, get behind me bro. I'll protect you.

 

[Istatenu]

...Quinn is like a reverse Jill, sexually forward, emotionally closed, but the game has been dropping numerous hints about her. She can't show heavy change until it comes crashing down or she is at some crossroads an action that is just too much...

Agreed. Quinn and people like her don't look to change or improve until they hit rock bottom. That's going to happen at some point and I'll be there to help.

 

[Milo-Otis]

When they come for you, get behind me bro. I'll protect you.

We'll make a shield wall for him brother.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

Alright, raise your hands, who has an anti-derek save going?

Anthony and Ash? so kawaiiii desu

Not cool bro

 

[Casmyr]

Not cool bro

Dont tell Fappy

 

[JamieSadistic]

Alright, raise your hands, who has an anti-derek save going?

Anthony and Ash? so kawaiiii desu

They kinda cute together tho...and Anthony is a cool dude. Might have to do that.

That's heartless... and breaking DIK codes... next thing you say will probably be that you told Heather that Tommy cheated on her... hahahahahahaha.

I did....because Fuck Tommy and I want Heather to touch MC's penis.

 

[Petro28]

From a DIK perspective that really came out of nowhere the way he stopped kissing her to get a bottle of water was so savage too.

This rebound stuff is even worse if MC is already having friends with benefits relationship with Sage. Dude,wtf you already having sex with her. She is cheating on her boyfriend with you you definitely more than a guy for a good fuck.

 

[godkingxerxes]

So...Jill, hook up with Tybalt or Rusty?

 

[JamieSadistic]

So...Jill, hook up with Tybalt or Rusty?

If I can help out, Rusty. I think he's not the same person she dated at first.

 

[Arigon]

Our MC is basically unlikable in my opinion. This makes the entire experience somewhat less enjoyable, but it is what it is. The music is great, the renders and animations are great. The writing overall is not that great but our wingman is great, very much on par with Liam from AL..
Maya gets a raw deal. Writing stinks and she really should be my number one...
Josy gets a semi raw deal. See above....
Bella is a goddess and will have my undying love, until she kills me or some such. (due to poor writing)
Sage is also a goddess whom I adore, and am happy to be her next codependent lover (well first really since Chad was really gay.)
Quinn.... yeah she is warming me up a bit, but for me she has a long way to go to be at LI level. (her story line is getting better and I will give credit to DPC where it is due)
Jill-no unless she comes with Bella
Jade-in a heartbeat could be a love interest. (wish that was on the table, the floor, the couch, the bed, where ever!)
Cathy, yes and no...... she is hot though.
Rionna.. I could love her. (I hope she becomes more... if we really are half way through then there could be time.)
Cammie- I do love her........wish she could be more.(see above)
All the 30 something girls I wish could be more. (see above)
Rest of the HOTs are good shagging material for sure... I am still thinking of our lovely Rose recruit.......
The rest of the Wendy club....no
I think I will leave it there.

I know flames are headed my way, but it is what it is...
Peace to all

 

[Arigon]

So...Jill, hook up with Tybalt or Rusty?

100% Rusty and like stated above I would help it happen. Jill does almost nothing for me. We would make a very poor match as the MC is currently written.

 

[BeingADikDik]

100% Rusty and like stated above I would help it happen. Jill does almost nothing for me. We would make a very poor match as the MC is currently written.

Agreed that it feels like Jill is intended to be with Rusty as a common ending if the MC can continue to help Rusty become a better man.

Maya and Josy deserve their happy ending.

Bella deserves to be reconciled with her husband, or otherwise find a more mature pairing.

That leaves Sage or KRJ as the only suitable partners for MC!

 

[godkingxerxes]

Our MC is basically unlikable in my opinion. This makes the entire experience somewhat less enjoyable, but it is what it is.

This is my biggest issue with this game. You can shape the character somewhat, and it seems like he's your character but all of a sudden Pinkcakes makes him do whatever he wants even if it's OOC, like running away from Sage.

I also love the MC telling everybody that it's time to grow up and stop relying on daddy, and then daddy comes and furnishes our house for us.

It's the nature of these games I guess though it's not unique to DIK, I don't think there is a relatable MC they're all cunts.

 

[BeingADikDik]

This is my biggest issue with this game. You can shape the character somewhat, and it seems like he's your character but all of a sudden Pinkcakes makes him do whatever he wants even if it's OOC, like running away from Sage.

I also love the MC telling everybody that it's time to grow up and stop relying on daddy, and then daddy comes and furnishes our house for us.

It's the nature of these games I guess though it's not unique to DIK, I don't think there is a relatable MC they're all cunts.

What actions for a massive chick MC do you feel are unrelatable/unlikable?