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felicemastronzo

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Seconded. This route back on is acceptable but make the Sage fuckbuddy route the “bad” one would be insane. These things need to be vaguely telegraphed. I’m in two minds about the Bella panties issue already but at least it makes some sense. To make the Sage fuckbuddy route fall through would just be a kick in the teeth.

Im reserving judgment on Sage this episode because the whole thing reeks of just keeping her in a holding pattern. I need more information because the way shit was phrased this episode annoyed me a little but I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

Sages comments about not looking at the MC “through that lens” could be a sticking point for me... especially if he just bridges the fuckbuddy and “got together in ep7” routes and she acts like they’ve only just started this thing on both “routes” and ignore all the history of being fuckbuddies.

If Sage doesn’t acknowledge all the shit from the last 7 episodes and sticks to the idea it was just sex and nothing even remotely more it changes her for me. Don’t get me wrong, it would actually make her more of a DIK route character but it should have been much much clearer with the whole “just sex” thing. All the romantic kisses in the garden (something Mel/Sarah comment on being more than just fuckbuddy stuff), holding hands under blankets or falling asleep in MC’s arms after he came to look after her makes it off that she never remotely saw him as more than a Fuckbuddy. Sage is just as romantic as any other LI and it’s jarring she is so conflicted about the concept of the MC as a boyfriend... by all means play the “it’s too soon” card but its bad writing (in my opinion) after all that’s happened that she can’t even answer if she is interested in dating MC.

If she acted more like the other HOTs or even Quinn and was clear it was just meaningless sex all this “never looked at you this way” stuff makes sense and she would actually come across as a DIK route.

MC annoyed me too with how things were phrased. Dunno why DPC made him act all ambiguous with wanting “more” and not being a “rebound”... ask her on a date. Make it clear you wanna see if something is there rather than making it seem like it’s all or nothing. Sage acts like he fucking proposed and he wanted a “promise” they’d be together. A date makes more sense for all involved.

Sage has lost some of her... characterisation for want of a better word. She was never particularly tied to the “DIK” route and easily romanced as a Chick. Now she’s acting all DIK route, casual sex... calling MC a girl for wanting more... I dunno. Even the MC as a full DIK reacts to Sage in such a way he thought there was something more.

Sage needed more stuff like the first time you have sex with her where she makes it clear it’s just sex. You should need to affirm it was just sex throughout her route or be penalised. She should need DIK actions to be with, like Quinn or the other HOTS.

If he wants us to act like the last 7 episodes meant nothing Sage should have been the anthesis to Jill. Needs DIK points and actions. Have sex with no emotions and the big crescendo be an emotional connection leading to more. This is kind of a mess in my opinion (based on what we have so far, it could all change in an episode).
i think the two paths will be very similar, with some changes only in the dialogues. even in the seventh one at the end the next scene is exactly the same.

at the end in one path it's Mc asking Sage to take their feelings seriously, in the other it's Sage telling MC that now the situation is different and she's ready for a relationship.

actually i don't think she is, but that doesn't change the fact that with a different path MC and Sage arrive practically at the same point.

Having been a fuckbuddy can never be MC's fault, it was Sage's choice that brought them closer anyway.

the part of Sage and MC in the seventh chapter was quite sudden and unsuccessful, in my opinion at least, hopefully it won't do too much damage

We don't know how old the relationship between Sage and Chad was. In the Episode 5 flashback (~two years before the start of the game) , they don't seem to be an item yet (though Sage is obviously enamored with Chad). When we first see them in Episode 1, their relationship seems to be well established. That suggests we're looking at a relationship between .25-1.75 years old, give or take.

Anything up to a year seems plausible to me; if Sage was truly smitten, she'd be willing to wait for Chad to be comfortable. Longer than that is still not completely outrageous (Sage is pretty clearly frustrated, after all), but it does start to undercut her comment in Episode 5 that guys don't normally reject her.

There's also the possibility that Chad DID have some sexy times with Sage on occasion, at least early on in the relationship. It's less likely now that we know Chad is gay, but we still can't rule it out.
the only clue we have puts them together in their first year, but it doesn't change much anyway...

I don't think thinking that Sage courted Chad for a year and then did more of a gap year waiting for Chad to feel like it is any more believable.

Sage is struggling to accept that Mc needs time to accept the new situation, and in fact she doesn't even wait 5 minutes. there is no reason to think that with Chad she had more patience. the abstinence realistically could have lasted a few months, maybe taking advantage of the summer holidays, not more.

but that's our curiosity as players. I don't think we'll ever find out.
 

felicemastronzo

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I don't know man, I think Chad might have never fucked her, hence her frustration, and in this frustration she would go out and get dicked by random dudes, possibly even Chad's friends or DIKs. Everything seems to indicate that Chad didn't really perform, which is why she got so angry with him cheating, since it implies that he was fucking someone else, which in turn caused her obssession. But yes, heavely implied that Sage has had plenty of dick in her, just not Chad's. A former fuckbuddy of her making himself known might even be drama for her futute path.
not with DPC, drama yes but nothing involving betrayal
otherwise the patreons will cry loudly

I summarise the situation again
1 LI lesbian but likes cock, only MC's cock
1 LI bisexual girlfriend who never cheats, doesn't want to cheat at any time, except with MC
1 LI engaged but with a gay guy who doesn't have sex
1 LI who doesn't know what sex is yet
1 LI married with her husband who left a photo and a ring for now
 

Darkdevil66

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I summarise the situation again
1 LI lesbian but likes cock, only MC's cock
1 LI bisexual girlfriend who never cheats, doesn't want to cheat at any time, except with MC
1 LI engaged but with a gay guy who doesn't have sex
1 LI who doesn't know what sex is yet
1 LI married with her husband who left a photo and a ring for now
No wonder why many players prefer banging strippers, teachers & dealers...
 

ename144

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the only clue we have puts them together in their first year, but it doesn't change much anyway...

I don't think thinking that Sage courted Chad for a year and then did more of a gap year waiting for Chad to feel like it is any more believable.

Sage is struggling to accept that Mc needs time to accept the new situation, and in fact she doesn't even wait 5 minutes. there is no reason to think that with Chad she had more patience. the abstinence realistically could have lasted a few months, maybe taking advantage of the summer holidays, not more.

but that's our curiosity as players. I don't think we'll ever find out.
But Sage was willing to wait months (at least she said she was). It's just that MC started making out with her seconds after she finished saying that, with predictable results. If the MC had been as disinclined to fool around with Sage as Chad likely was, Sage would probably have been in for another long dry spell.

Again, I think it's possible Sage cheated on Chad prior to the MC, but I don't feel what we've seen supports the idea.
 
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not with DPC, drama yes but nothing involving betrayal
otherwise the patreons will cry loudly

I summarise the situation again
1 LI lesbian but likes cock, only MC's cock
1 LI bisexual girlfriend who never cheats, doesn't want to cheat at any time, except with MC
1 LI engaged but with a gay guy who doesn't have sex
1 LI who doesn't know what sex is yet
1 LI married with her husband who left a photo and a ring for now
I dunno man, people say he killed people in his first game, I'm scared. And some guy showing up with the "I fucked your girlfriend" face, might be some drama, prolly not cheating drama (simultaneous fuckbuddies) since that would be taking too far, she is not even the perfect virgin prototype like Maya (yes, lesbian stuff, like in porn, doesn't count) and Jill, she is more of an active person, and if DPC is trying to get more emotion in her path, god that could be some heart breaking shit down this path for her.

Hopefully not, I have no interest in past dickings just future ones. But you can't deny the potential for drama there.
 

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I dunno man, people say he killed people in his first game, I'm scared. And some guy showing up with the "I fucked your girlfriend" face, might be some drama, prolly not cheating drama (simultaneous fuckbuddies) since that would be taking too far, she is not even the perfect virgin prototype like Maya (yes, lesbian stuff, like in porn, doesn't count) and Jill, she is more of an active person, and if DPC is trying to get more emotion in her path, god that could be some heart breaking shit down this path for her.

Hopefully not, I have no interest in past dickings just future ones. But you can't deny the potential for drama there.
I don't mind drama, as long as there will be chances to fix stuff, but damn I sure hope there will be no injuries or death in this game. My innocent heart is not ready for another AL.
 
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Pendrell

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Sages comments about not looking at the MC “through that lens” could be a sticking point for me.
Honestly I thought that line of Sage's was pretty ridiculous. I think DPC needed her to say it for game development purposes, rather than narrative purposes, which always leads to dialogue that sounds off. It doesn't at all reflect her behaviour and attitude towards MC up to ep 7. Let me get this straight, Sage: you've been sleeping with the guy, kissing him in public, wearing his jacket, calling him for help when you're sick, crying at his personal history, you admit you're attracted to him, and you tell other people he's a great guy. But you've "never seen him through that lens before". Absurd.
 

felicemastronzo

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But Sage was willing to wait months (at least she said she was). It's just that MC started making out with her seconds after she finished saying that, with predictable results. If the MC had been as disinclined to fool around with Sage as Chad likely was, Sage would probably have been in for another long dry spell.

Again, I think it's possible Sage cheated on Chad prior to the MC, but I don't feel what we've seen supports the idea.
I think you misunderstood the scene

it's clearly Sage kissing MC, who of course doesn't back down.
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MC is quite surprised, Sage doesn't take him seriously at all in this whole business.
 

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Joking aside, I hope you enjoy the game. I worked my ass off to create this and boy this is expensive.

I need funding to complete this project.

If you can't afford to donate on Patreon, you can still show support by liking or reviewing the game.

Cheers
DrPinkCake you will prob won't ever read this but still I want to say I never expected to enjoy such a game in a way I do now.
I haven't been active much on this website and only used it to download "degenerate" stuff and be gone with it. So on my download spree last week I went into the trending game and downloaded a lot of games like these, at first your title putted me off I was like what kind of title is "being a DIK" then I saw animated tag and was like aight that can't be half bad.

So I downloaded it and was suprised to see a 10go file ! HOLY DAMN I though to myself. So I start the game and I am greeted with voice acting and all. WOW ! So I start playing at first ; I don't play like I would act myself I mostly play it as a "badass" or "dik" cause I'm thinking this is the route I need to go... So I enjoy it the scenes are amazing and the story is ABSOLUTELY CAPTIVATING bring me back to high school if it was better lol. But then I don't like the path my MC is going so at the end of chapter 3 I decided screw it I restart the game and act with my own choices and how I would act. AND WOW, I am just so immersed and I just really appreciate it. Idk if this is your full time thing but I will surely get on that Patreon if it can help.

It's not just a "adult" game, the stories, the jokes, the characters, sure sometimes it can be a little unrealistic in the way they act but overall the game is very well made and captivating.

I know this is getting long but I just had to tell you how much I appreciate it man.
KEEP. IT. UP.
 

felicemastronzo

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I dunno man, people say he killed people in his first game, I'm scared. And some guy showing up with the "I fucked your girlfriend" face, might be some drama, prolly not cheating drama (simultaneous fuckbuddies) since that would be taking too far, she is not even the perfect virgin prototype like Maya (yes, lesbian stuff, like in porn, doesn't count) and Jill, she is more of an active person, and if DPC is trying to get more emotion in her path, god that could be some heart breaking shit down this path for her.

Hopefully not, I have no interest in past dickings just future ones. But you can't deny the potential for drama there.
of course there is potential

but it's a kind of drama that creates more problems for developers than benefits.

Maya and Josy are still paying for their relationship in terms of support from the patreons
 

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I dunno man, people say he killed people in his first game, I'm scared. And some guy showing up with the "I fucked your girlfriend" face, might be some drama, prolly not cheating drama (simultaneous fuckbuddies) since that would be taking too far, she is not even the perfect virgin prototype like Maya (yes, lesbian stuff, like in porn, doesn't count) and Jill, she is more of an active person, and if DPC is trying to get more emotion in her path, god that could be some heart breaking shit down this path for her.

Hopefully not, I have no interest in past dickings just future ones. But you can't deny the potential for drama there.
Yeah acting lessons was great and the ending quite heartbreaking. But if we played as a good guy we still would get a somewhat good ending. But still will make you sad. Deaths were unavoidable in it. But the best VN I have ever played. And I hope BaDiK won't disappoint. I picked Sage fuck buddy route and now its just Jill and Sage. But now Jill seems to be sad after the Tybalt presentation so I hope the Jill route wont end soon, coz I was thinking about dropping Sage route the next chance i get. Will see how it turns out. But knowing DPC and his opening intro with Jill and asking about Hard state in life and stuff, I've already braced myself for an ending like in Acting Lessons. The junkies in Quinn's story and Riona's text is making me feel that's how he is planning to do this in here idk for sure. I hope im wrong.

But right from the release of chapter one i have had the feeling he will give a heartbreaking ending and have bracing for something like that ever since. But as i keep playing its getting hard to anticipate anything or not get sad
 
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mindern

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But Sage was willing to wait months (at least she said she was). It's just that MC started making out with her seconds after she finished saying that, with predictable results. If the MC had been as disinclined to fool around with Sage as Chad likely was, Sage would probably have been in for another long dry spell.

Again, I think it's possible Sage cheated on Chad prior to the MC, but I don't feel what we've seen supports the idea.
I know the game would never let her sleep with someone else but they’ve never had the talk about exclusivity which (yet again) is damaging the story. It makes the writing sloppy because her waiting for him doesn’t specifically exclude her from seeing other people.

We have to assume she wouldn’t but that isn’t based on anything in game. She was really quick to cheat on Chad, given her claims now it was just sex with the MC (and with hindsight she was quick to cheat, she was kissing MC at that party and ready to do more at the drop of a hat).

Id freely believe she cheated on Chad before (despite no evidence for it) and was it not for the hardline against it at a meta level I wouldn’t doubt she’d sleep with someone else despite the agreement with the MC.
 

felicemastronzo

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I know the game would never let her sleep with someone else but they’ve never had the talk about exclusivity which (yet again) is damaging the story. It makes the writing sloppy because her waiting for him doesn’t specifically exclude her from seeing other people.

We have to assume she wouldn’t but that isn’t based on anything in game. She was really quick to cheat on Chad, given her claims now it was just sex with the MC (and with hindsight she was quick to cheat, she was kissing MC at that party and ready to do more at the drop of a hat).

Id freely believe she cheated on Chad before (despite no evidence for it) and was it not for the hardline against it at a meta level I wouldn’t doubt she’d sleep with someone else despite the agreement with the MC.
no girl accepts mc's proposal of fidelity, and viceversa, just because we are still in chapter seven, there is no other motivation

instead MC must still be free to make mistakes and get into trouble

Jill doesn't ask MC to be faithful either... she warns generically that it doesn't please a girl that a guy she's interested in is seeing other girls, but anyway it's ok

but in the same way Maya and Josy at the picnic "but no, don't worry Mc, go ahead and experiment, it's no problem, don't worry..." waiting to find their Cathe's underwear
 
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no girl accepts mc's proposal of fidelity, and viceversa, just because we are still in chapter seven, there is no other motivation

instead MC must still be free to make mistakes and get into trouble

Jill doesn't ask MC to be faithful either... she warns generically that it doesn't please a girl that a guy she's interested in is seeing other guys, but anyway it's ok

but in the same way Maya and Josy at the picnic "but no, don't worry Mc, go ahead and experiment, it's no problem, don't worry..." waiting to find their Cathe's underwear
Yeah, the whole 'everyone is fine with a casual relationship' thing is so contrived it's bursting at the seams. True, some people would feel like they're cheating MC enters a serious relationship, but this isn't a good solution to that problem. It actually seems more like 'prepare because I'm going to milk the shit out of this game'
 
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