VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[The Pink Royce]

So.. about that episode 8.. Jill finally gonna give it up at the end of season 2, or do you think she'll keep MC hanging until the end of season 3-4?

not sure what you guys talking about just unlock DIK route Jill .

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Jill’s inner monologue after that scene made it pretty clear she doesn’t actually believe the whole “being perfect” thing. IIRC she called it a cliched lie. It has nothing to do with her thinking it is gonna hurt.

EDIT: and all this behaviour isn’t outta the blue. It’s a follow on from the scene where she calls the MC to come watch her play piano. She’s self confidant and worried if she doesn’t do something flawlessly. She practices and practices to get things 100% right. I’m guessing as a product of her upbringing and being a Royce. She’s desperate to be flawless at everything lest she be cast out like her sister.

odd i compared it to her piano practise while back , cant disagree with anything you said .
i'll add her parents can also be a factor after Lanas death .

I don't think its very important when she's gonna give it up , as long as story is good and makes sense

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[Niu6609]

I don't think its very important when she's gonna give it up , as long as story is good and makes sense

Would you be ok be she never gave it up? What if she turns you down? Did you really think that she would never turn around, go to Tybalt, and desert you?

I'm sorry I couldn't help myself. I lost to temptation.

On another note, I've done like 3-4 full playthroughs so far, but only when I decided to really pay attention to the scenes and dialogue in my most recent Bella playthrough did I notice that this girl here was Mona. Prior to that I thought the thing about Mona dropping out was just something the characters assumed. Just goes to show how inattentive I was towards the scenes, especially this one, I always thought it was just a filler scene and never really looked at it closely.



Additionally, I finally had the pleasure of looking at my girl Sage's cute sleeping face (which you don't get to see unless you're just friends with her, strictly no fuckbuddy shit), and I must say, there's a reason why she's at the top of my LI list. She's so cute my heart goes thump every time I look at her.

 

[The Pink Royce]

Would you be ok be she never gave it up? What if she turns you down? Did you really think that she would never turn around, go to Tybalt, and desert you?

I'm sorry I couldn't help myself. I lost to temptation.

dont worry i was gonna do same joke originally but i settled for fanart

On another note, I've done like 3-4 full playthroughs so far, but only when I decided to really pay attention to the scenes and dialogue in my most recent Bella playthrough did I notice that this girl here was Mona. Prior to that I thought the thing about Mona dropping out was just something the characters assumed. Just goes to show how inattentive I was towards the scenes, especially this one, I always thought it was just a filler scene and never really looked at it closely.

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I really hope thats the case , Mona kind of vanishes. The way Rio and Cami are talking about being
stalked sprung some theories about Monas disappearance.

Additionally, I finally had the pleasure of looking at my girl Sage's cute sleeping face (which you don't get to see unless you're just friends with her, strictly no fuckbuddy shit), and I must say, there's a reason why she's at the top of my LI list. She's so cute my heart goes thump every time I look at her.

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it's actually little odd scene with sage . right before she falls asleep . MC tells her about dad/mom/birthday .
and only recently i noticed Sage cries when he tells her . her skin kind of masks it
its not pure waterfall like with Jill but you can tell she cares .

Yes Sage is pretty to look at . i still remember first time i saw her in cafeteria .

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[shazba]

On another note, I've done like 3-4 full playthroughs so far, but only when I decided to really pay attention to the scenes and dialogue in my most recent Bella playthrough did I notice that this girl here was Mona. Prior to that I thought the thing about Mona dropping out was just something the characters assumed. Just goes to show how inattentive I was towards the scenes, especially this one, I always thought it was just a filler scene and never really looked at it closely.

I really hope thats the case , Mona kind of vanishes. The way Rio and Cami are talking about being
stalked sprung some theories about Monas disappearance.

That's definitely Mona leaving. When everyone finished episode 6 they were all sad to see her go and there were theories as to why she quit and so on. You definitely have to pay attention to those epilogue scenes at the end of each episode, heaps of clues there.

 

[JETracktor]

You definitely have to pay attention to those epilogue scenes at the end of each episode, heaps of clues there.

Indeed. There is Cathy's dismissal papers on Burke's table when he watches (or not) Jade's home video. DPC shows that Cathy gonna leave before she said that.

 

[`Ray`]

Suppose Jill overcame this fear and had sex with MC. then what would she do? Jill is the only LI who would have absolutely no obstacle to living her relationship, which is why they already had to insert the fantastic blackmail segment to slow down (Jill can no longer date MC who will otherwise be deported to the foreign legion to break rocks, Jill dates MC exactly as before, even better because she sees him in private)

She is not confident yet to even Kiss MC who is going out of the window after meeting her or asking him to stay. Then just imagine how much of confidence she would have the time when she will have sex with MC. She would be able to confess her true feelings to MC. Having sex with MC and Having that much confidence, we can assume that she would at least know what's what and won't remain that much naïve for eg she would know that the 2inch guy is a creepy douchebag.
And why do you think that "Jill is the only LI who would have absolutely no obstacle to living her relationship" ? What if Jill's parent don't approve of their relationship, she is a Royce and MC is nobody at least for now. It's surely going to be a hassle to please Jill's parents or her mom . Jill mentions in ep4 that many guys dated her for her family position, do you think they will just sit around with their fucking ass and watch it? Hell shit someone other than Tybalt may even barge in, have you ever thought of that? Possibility may be super low but there is still a possibility. So No, I don't think that her relationship will have no obstacles at all.

all the talk about her family is believable, but it's our assumptions, would her family be happy to see her on Tybalt's leash like a docile little dog? which is a much more public attitude than having sex.

Obviously No, her father might even drop a bomb on tybalt's crouch . I think people here are mistaking tybalt for a super rich family kid. No, he's not. He is a son of a professor of a college, not a big deal. There are plenty of other perverts family who would try to marry Jill...but my MC will break their balls with ball.[tennis ball]

Jill has every reason in the world to doubt that Mc is the right person, but this fragility, this insecurity about him is just childish (and instrumental to the story). besides, it's a dead end, how do you train to have good sex without having sex? and it was such a pet peeve of hers that she had to improvise an excuse....

Haha I will have to type the same things to answer this. In ep4 Jill stated that many guys dated her for her family position and Jill wasn't sure if they were sincere enough. Then learns that MC has no idea about her family. She lightens up. But after dating so many guys with same bullshit, don't you think she would have made a habit of checking whether the guy is good, is he fucking someone behind me or not? And with Bella-sensei it is 100% possible.
And who here is saying that Jill demands a good sex? When did she mention it? She said she wants it perfect but that was an excuse. Honestly if you think sex is not good and you need a good sex to make it good, I don't know what to say anymore. The reason for her excuse, I already mentioned in my previous post.

 

[JETracktor]

There is some funny detail saw in that scene, when Rusty is trying to get into prep frat.

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Painting on the wall is The Birth of John the Baptist by Jacopo Tintoretto.

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I think DPC doesn't focuses attention on the painting for nothing - Rusty kinda become the baptist for DIKs. Hope he's not gonna lose the head though

 

[The Pink Royce]

And why do you think that "Jill is the only LI who would have absolutely no obstacle to living her relationship" ? What if Jill's parent don't approve of their relationship, she is a Royce and MC is nobody at least for now. It's surely going to be a hassle to please Jill's parents or her mom . Jill mentions in ep4 that many guys dated her for her family position, do you think they will just sit around with their fucking ass and watch it? Hell shit someone other than Tybalt may even barge in, have you ever thought of that? Possibility may be super low but there is still a possibility. So No, I don't think that her relationship will have no obstacles at all.


Obviously No, her father might even drop a bomb on tybalt's crouch . I think people here are mistaking tybalt for a super rich family kid. No, he's not. He is a son of a professor of a college, not a big deal. There are plenty of other perverts family who would try to marry Jill...but my MC will break their balls with ball.

im not gonna tear into your post to much ( because i agree with it and also im to lazy )

I'd like to point out that Jill is excited on her first date that MC has no idea she's Royce and then she even
gets mad at Bella for snitching on her. (while it seems strange she'd try to hide it )
You highlight good point . There were others that tried to marry into Royce family and Jill seems bored/tired of it.

Its not only that she has money seems Royce maybe form of Kennedys in BaDIK .
The money thing doesnt even cross Jills mind until MC points it out .

(thats why you get +RP when MC tries to pay for icecream . he doesnt treat her like a rich girl )

While for the short period of time MC was a person interisted in Jill for her not her name .
(it may mean nothing to plebs like us but she's cliché of a rich girl that doesnt care for possessions
- it probably means a lot to her. ) .

After MC finds out Jill is a Royce , we get a tiny glimps of her .
She seems a little disappointed but maybe accepting that MC doesn't actually care for her name.

 

[EmperorGus]

Indeed. There is Cathy's dismissal papers on Burke's table when he watches (or not) Jade's home video. DPC shows that Cathy gonna leave before she said that.

Ok.. I was just about to point out that they we're not dismissal papers, it was a resignation letter... but then I read the rest of your sentence...
Now I have a few questions...

I've only seen that scene (Stephen at his desk) so far on Chick playthroughs, where MC didn't sleep with Jade.
In which case, it was not dismissal letter (where Cathy was fired), it was Cathy's resignation letter (she quit.)
And it was Stephen deleting Mona's 'scholarship' from the computer.

Now.. I can see why there's 2 different images on the computer screen (if you didn't sleep with Jade, there's no video for him to watch).
But are there actually 2 different variations of the letter on the desk? Dismissal or resignation??
I'm having a hard time picturing Cathy being fired, but maybe I missed something? Some trigger that would lead to that??

 

[felicemastronzo]

And why do you think that "Jill is the only LI who would have absolutely no obstacle to living her relationship" ? What if Jill's parent don't approve of their relationship, she is a Royce and MC is nobody at least for now. It's surely going to be a hassle to please Jill's parents or her mom . Jill mentions in ep4 that many guys dated her for her family position, do you think they will just sit around with their fucking ass and watch it? Hell shit someone other than Tybalt may even barge in, have you ever thought of that? Possibility may be super low but there is still a possibility. So No, I don't think that her relationship will have no obstacles at all.

simply because there is absolutely no trace of this in the game, at no point is the risk of his family's disapproval mentioned.


Jill has had her dates, unfortunate ones, with whoever she wanted.

Obviously No, her father might even drop a bomb on tybalt's crouch . I think people here are mistaking tybalt for a super rich family kid. No, he's not. He is a son of a professor of a college, not a big deal. There are plenty of other perverts family who would try to marry Jill...but my MC will break their balls with ball.[tennis ball]


Haha I will have to type the same things to answer this. In ep4 Jill stated that many guys dated her for her family position and Jill wasn't sure if they were sincere enough. Then learns that MC has no idea about her family. She lightens up. But after dating so many guys with same bullshit, don't you think she would have made a habit of checking whether the guy is good, is he fucking someone behind me or not? And with Bella-sensei it is 100% possible.
And who here is saying that Jill demands a good sex? When did she mention it? She said she wants it perfect but that was an excuse. Honestly if you think sex is not good and you need a good sex to make it good, I don't know what to say anymore. The reason for her excuse, I already mentioned in my previous post.

here perhaps I have not explained myself well

Jill isn't worried that sex isn't good enough for her, but for MC. and it's a ridiculous and dead-end worry. only by having sex can she learn to have sex

Then I'm sure that if Bella/Josy/Quinn trained her it would be absolutely consistent with Jill's character, because being both stubborn and naive she can do the biggest stupid things without the slightest hesitation.

 

[JETracktor]

Ok.. I was just about to point out that they we're not dismissal papers, it was a resignation letter... but then I read the rest of your sentence...
Now I have a few questions...

I've only seen that scene (Stephen at his desk) so far on Chick playthroughs, where MC didn't sleep with Jade.
In which case, it was not dismissal letter (where Cathy was fired), it was Cathy's resignation letter (she quit.)
And it was Stephen deleting Mona's 'scholarship' from the computer.

Now.. I can see why there's 2 different images on the computer screen (if you didn't sleep with Jade, there's no video for him to watch).
But are there actually 2 different variations of the letter on the desk? Dismissal or resignation??
I'm having a hard time picturing Cathy being fired, but maybe I missed something? Some trigger that would lead to that??

Scenes with letter are the same.

I just sometimes having hard times to put my thoughts out in english (not a native speaker )

 

[`Ray`]

Jill isn't worried that sex isn't good enough for her, but for MC. and it's a ridiculous and dead-end worry. only by having sex can she learn to have sex

That's what me said...

She thinks that she would be terrible at it [sex] and it might annoy or disgust MC who she loves [MC won't be annoyed or disgusted by this].

Her learning sex is not necessary. Sex is natural, all one needs to know is poses

 

[The Pink Royce]

Then I'm sure that if Bella/Josy/Quinn trained her it would be absolutely consistent with Jill's character, because being both stubborn and naive she can do the biggest stupid things without the slightest hesitation.

yeah thats what girls do when they're alone and/or on slumber parties .
they train each other .

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Josy and Maya popularity dropped crazy when they're revealed as a couple .
Not sure why so much fandom for 3ways and why Josy ?

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Jills plot is that she's not afraid of her feelings but shys away from intimacy
and all of sudden she has girl on girl with Quinn ?

There is no reason to hate , just enjoy the ride .
If Jill will finally cross the line its gonna be MC ,thats just her story . Question is when and how .

 

[mindern]

Jill has every reason in the world to doubt that Mc is the right person, but this fragility, this insecurity about him is just childish (and instrumental to the story). besides, it's a dead end, how do you train to have good sex without having sex? and it was such a pet peeve of hers that she had to improvise an excuse....

my take on it wasn’t she had specific fragility or insecurity around him or sex... she is generally fragile and insecure. About everything. Which makes sense. Her sister was apparently her closest friend and was banished and later died. She was bullied, she had bad dating experiences and swore it off. God knows what happened with Bella in bed.

She blushed and had to admit to MC when she caught sight of his penis. She’s borderline distraught at failing to perform a relatively complicated bit of classical music flawlessly. She hides her family name, All she knows about dating is born of 1980’s sitcoms, the three date rule and stuff.

Jill’s apprehensions to have sex is a symptom of something bigger. DPC has dropped the ball a little on her because he had to put titillation in this game with her to keep people interested. Jill’s a pretty damaged person keeping it together through a facade and keeping people at a distance.

Shy about seeing a penis. That is Jill. Footsie under the table and nearly-but-not-quite grazing MC’s crotch during a kiss... that is Jill. Calling the MC because she’s worried about a piano performance. Being upset when he accidentally heard her play. Can’t flirt, feels awkward doing it... not standing up to Tybalt ever and letting this blackmail stuff go on. It isn’t just sex.

Jill is suffering from the medium she’s placed in. Don’t get me wrong I’m not claiming she’s some great character for the ages but the (pretty basic) concepts DPC is building her around don’t play well in a titty game. Her lack of confidence is coalescing around sex because that’s a central element of the game.

But she’s changing. If the lake scene is anything to go by. Hopefully the MC does more of what he did in the auditorium and helps her relax and just go with the flow. I think the way past this issue is generally making her more confident not specifically training sex or whatever. Again, apprehension sexually just a symptom not a specific problem.

 

[Connoisseur NTR]

WOW I didnt know that episode 7 is out already XD

 

[felicemastronzo]

my take on it wasn’t she had specific fragility or insecurity around him or sex... she is generally fragile and insecure. About everything. Which makes sense. Her sister was apparently her closest friend and was banished and later died. She was bullied, she had bad dating experiences and swore it off. God knows what happened with Bella in bed.

She blushed and had to admit to MC when she caught sight of his penis. She’s borderline distraught at failing to perform a relatively complicated bit of classical music flawlessly. She hides her family name, All she knows about dating is born of 1980’s sitcoms, the three date rule and stuff.

Jill’s apprehensions to have sex is a symptom of something bigger. DPC has dropped the ball a little on her because he had to put titillation in this game with her to keep people interested. Jill’s a pretty damaged person keeping it together through a facade and keeping people at a distance.

Shy about seeing a penis. That is Jill. Footsie under the table and nearly-but-not-quite grazing MC’s crotch during a kiss... that is Jill. Calling the MC because she’s worried about a piano performance. Being upset when he accidentally heard her play. Can’t flirt, feels awkward doing it... list goes on and on. It isn’t just sex.

Jill is suffering from the medium she’s placed in. Don’t get me wrong I’m not claiming she’s some great character for the ages but the (pretty basic) concepts DPC is building her around don’t play well in a titty game.

But she’s changing. If the lake scene is anything to go by. Hopefully the MC does more of what he did in the auditorium and helps her relax and just go with the flow. I think the way past this issue is generally making her more confident not specifically training sex or whatever. Again, apprehension sexually just a symptom not a specific problem.

there had to be a real sex scene in her gallery at some point...

it seems to me that Jill's fears are quite concentrated in the sexual sphere, unlike Maya she is a sociable girl who took very little time to bond with Josy despite her competition for MC, she is not afraid of professors and college.

being anxious in front of a public performance is normal, it would be strange the opposite, even getting nervous in front of a naked man is normal.

in the end we always describe her as stubborn and naive because that is a shortcut to justify any behaviour. if she does something stupid she is naive, how could she deal with the issue differently on her own? if she continues to do something that those around her advise her against then she is stubborn

DPC overplayed his hand, Jill, I repeat, would have every reason not to trust MC completely and therefore not want to give herself to him completely, but that wasn't enough, Jill had to be a virgin (which at 20 years old and with that look makes her a unicorn), but that wasn't enough either, she's a virgin who's afraid of anything she thinks might make her lose control (to her though, because being half naked in front of MC is fine, his problems), she'd be an excessive character even in a TV context, she's 20 not 14

 

[The Pink Royce]

my take on it wasn’t she had specific fragility or insecurity around him or sex... she is generally fragile and insecure. About everything. Which makes sense. Her sister was apparently her closest friend and was banished and later died. She was bullied, she had bad dating experiences and swore it off. God knows what happened with Bella in bed.

She blushed and had to admit to MC when she caught sight of his penis. She’s borderline distraught at failing to perform a relatively complicated bit of classical music flawlessly. She hides her family name, All she knows about dating is born of 1980’s sitcoms, the three date rule and stuff.

Jill’s apprehensions to have sex is a symptom of something bigger. DPC has dropped the ball a little on her because he had to put titillation in this game with her to keep people interested. Jill’s a pretty damaged person keeping it together through a facade and keeping people at a distance.

Shy about seeing a penis. That is Jill. Footsie under the table and nearly-but-not-quite grazing MC’s crotch during a kiss... that is Jill. Calling the MC because she’s worried about a piano performance. Being upset when he accidentally heard her play. Can’t flirt, feels awkward doing it... not standing up to Tybalt ever and letting this blackmail stuff go on. It isn’t just sex.

Jill is suffering from the medium she’s placed in. Don’t get me wrong I’m not claiming she’s some great character for the ages but the (pretty basic) concepts DPC is building her around don’t play well in a titty game. Her lack of confidence is coalescing around sex because that’s a central element of the game.

But she’s changing. If the lake scene is anything to go by. Hopefully the MC does more of what he did in the auditorium and helps her relax and just go with the flow. I think the way past this issue is generally making her more confident not specifically training sex or whatever. Again, apprehension sexually just a symptom not a specific problem.

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The constant hate on Jill in this forums makes her more interesting then she actually is .
I initially waved her off for being clingy and boring , spent time with Sage and Bella .

I think i've grown to like her in big part because i often end up defending her .

Honestly there are so many lewd scenes in this game . you can easly sacrifice one just for
the sake of interesting story.

 

[Carl_CarlTanuel]

I just love how the realtionship between the mc and Quinn is slowly moving from disliking and toxic to opening up and comforting.

 

[The Pink Royce]

I just love how the realtionship between the mc and Quinn is slowly moving from disliking and toxic to opening up and comforting.

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[BeenThroughHell]

just wanna mention it, the prep's mansion now was MC's Mom old Hotel/House right.And I have a feeling that in the future chapters. It will somehow reveal his MC's Mom.