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Who said anything about love?
Maya loves MC and we can pinpoint the moment when she had realized it

During first weekend MC tells Maya he is going out on a date with Josy .
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MC asks her if she's jealous and maya gets akward and cute

You can comfort Maya at this point giving her kiss on a cheek and then MC goes out .

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MC goes back inside and she jumps him .
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But it looks like split second before she kisses him she realized she is in relationship already and it's not with MC .

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She composes her self at this point . Probably hoping it's enough to sabotage his date.

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Maya is very underrated character .

I guess someone could argue that this isnt love yet but a crush ,
and it develops into love later (even if MC friendzones her ).
And i'd say that it is a good point . But she went later from crush to love
without almost any effort on MCs part .
 

Niu6609

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So Here is the thing, I Think that DPC fucked up a little or he *Intentionally* fucked up on the ending of ep7.
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Now in ep2, It was stated that the whole floor belonged to the Alpha's [ jocks ].
In ep7 ending MC goes to the same floor for changing:
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Look at the door he enters:
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Look at the interior:
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Firstly:-
Now, Why does MC even go to that floor on the first place when he knows that the whole floor belongs to alpha's? To look for more trouble or fight? He knows that the relations b/w jocks and diks are shit but still he goes on that floor.

Now One thing to mention is that in ep7 hallway, We see a guy behind MC, most probably coming out of a locker room as he has his gym bag with him. The guy is not a JOCK.

Now, we can assume that because of chad's fuck up in ep3, the alpha's were watched more and maybe their right to a gym floor was taken back for the while. This explains why another guy came out of the locker room and why MC goes there. Now obviously there are more floors and more rooms on a floor, at least 4 rooms.

Secondly:-
In ep2, MC enters the room which has alpha logo on it and catches chad talking to troy on the phone. In ep7 he enters the room that is on the left of that room he entered in ep2. The Images show the proof, same bin, same wall designs, and same doors.

Now, If you zoom closely to the Image, the alpha logo is very big almost covering the whole door leaving small sides behind.
Now the door that MC enters in ep7, we can pretty much say positively that the room he entered does not have the logo.
common sense ;)


The interiors of both the rooms are super different. Now, this would explain why MC entered that room, It does not have the alpha logo like the room right next to it and means that Its not an alpha-exclusive room and therefore no problems with jocks.

Now, why did chad and troy go to that room? It does not have the logo, anyone can enter it, so why risk their privacy when they could have easily gone to the next room which is alpha-exclusive? Were they so impatient to kiss each other that they entered the wrong room?

Now if the other jocks are present in the next room and if it is a odd time for someone to come to gym, then that might explain why they chose that room!

Honestly, this is the first question ever that I asked and answered myself:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.
Well, first of all they aren't jocks anymore, so the room's probably off-limits to them now, thus they didn't go to that locker room. And honestly, I'm not even sure why they thought making out in a locker room was a good idea in the first place. I'd imagine the session built up from a quick convo along the lines of:

Troy: ....heard you got kicked out of the alphas. I know how that feels, bro. But even back then, you were an amazing brother, a person I looked up to.
Chad: Yeah, well, this is life now. I fucked up and I gotta face the consequences of my actions. Hopefully Stephen'll lighten up soon and let me back in.
Troy: You're just.... such a chad, Chad. This is coming from the bottom of my heart, I truly look up to you, man. You're cool.
Chad: Hey, thanks. But I'm not cool. I broke up with my girlfriend, and to the end, she thought I was cheating on her with another woman. How wrong she was.
Troy: Haha, right? It's fate that brought us together at the alphas, and fate has reunited us once more in the locker room. I love you, Chad.
Chad: And I love you too, Troy.
*Cue dumbass former alpha-to-former alpha makeout session which they didn't even bother to do in private*

I can't fucking believe I just typed that shit out.

She's just too damn stubborn, it's probably her worst feature. It totally annoyed me when the mc tried to explain sex isn't always great:

mc: "You can't control that, Jill."mc: "Believe me. You will have disappointing sex at some point, and it could very well be disappointing the first time you have it."mc: "I'm not trying to push you into doing something you don't want, but that's how it is."Jill: "Maybe for you."

Argh, you argumentative woman! How many times have you had sex? Zero, that's right, maybe just listen to someone else for a change?

Be funny if she runs off crying to Bella:

Jill: Bella, Fuckface wanted to have sex with me but I was too stupid and turned him down. what can I do?
Bella: Looks like you've blown it Jill, don't try to have sex with Fuckface anymore. I'm saying this because I love you, not because I don't want to share.
Jill: W... what?
But hey, as they say, the most reserved ones and innocent ones are usually the craziest ones in bed. Imagine if during the first time with Jill she suggests anal already, or some other kinky shit that I can't imagine her enjoying. Once Jill gets out of her shell, and chooses to do MC, hoooo boy I think we'll be in for a treat.

Hmm, maybe I remember wrong, but this whole Maya asking for your help thing is kind of exaggerated a little.
The only time she specifically ask for help is really after the cum-petition. Every other Time the MC is kind of automatically offering her to help .
Yeah, sometimes the MC does offer his help, because he sees Maya as a close friend (or even more depending on your route) and usually if you're that close with someone, you'd try your best to see if you can help them in any way, because you wanna make their life easier too.

I know what document ID's are in real life. But this is a game and could (not must) be a hint from DPC.

Just found something else too. MC has some kind of tattoo behind the ear or something.

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Could be a birth mark. People have those, if I recall.
 
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Hermith

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Maya loves MC and we can pinpoint the moment when she had realized it

During first weekend MC tells Maya he is going out on a date with Josy .
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MC asks her if she's jealous and maya gets akward and cute

You can comfort Maya at this point giving her kiss on a cheek and then MC goes out .

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MC goes back inside and she jumps him .
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But it looks like split second before she kisses him she realized she is in relationship already and it's not with MC .

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She composes her self at this point . Probably hoping it's enough to sabotage his date.

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Maya is very underrated character .

I guess someone could argue that this isnt love yet but a crush ,
and it develops into love later (even if MC friendzones her ).
And i'd say that it is a good point . But she went later from crush to love
without almost any effort on MCs part .
Damn, she's shrewd.
 

Daver

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Maya loves MC and we can pinpoint the moment when she had realized it

During first weekend MC tells Maya he is going out on a date with Josy .
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MC asks her if she's jealous and maya gets akward and cute

You can comfort Maya at this point giving her kiss on a cheek and then MC goes out .

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MC goes back inside and she jumps him .
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But it looks like split second before she kisses him she realized she is in relationship already and it's not with MC .

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She composes her self at this point . Probably hoping it's enough to sabotage his date.

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Maya is very underrated character .

I guess someone could argue that this isnt love yet but a crush ,
and it develops into love later (even if MC friendzones her ).
And i'd say that it is a good point . But she went later from crush to love
without almost any effort on MCs part .
Starting from now I need an only-Maya-route
 

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Sure it wasn't a reassuring happy ending, but i think it was the perfect ending for the story. The protagonist buried himself in the grave he dig just being incapable of simply speaking the truth and explaining himself. Actually i think it's quite a commentary on japanese closure toward relationships.
Let's remember that all the craziness of that story began because the protagonist could no longer go on a date with the girl he liked, and it wasn't even his fault. All he had to do was to tell the girl that her sister cut his free saturday so they had to catch up on another occasion. Not a big deal. But the protagonist is a terminal paranoid who just can't speak his mind.
That will happen to you when you live under duress. Remember this teenager was being abused and humiliated every single day of his high school life, and paranoia is a pretty common symptom for people living in authoritarian states. It's quite evident his self-loathing for the things he did during incarceration, so I still think it was uncalled to just blow it up by the ending. Don't get me wrong I don't think he should've dated the normal girl (used to be anyway), but Hana was right there my man.

You might be right about the social commentary of the dying Japanese dating market (herbivore men and the like), but I still feel that ending was unfulfilling, just a sad ending where the MC pisses himself in front of both his love interests, while one doesn't acknowledge his feelings, the other is repulsed by his behavior. Just sad overall.
 
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i didnt o_O... i was focused on Bellas huge boobies at the time . they are really bouncy :sneaky:
I was wondering what for Troy is in the story before saw the ep 7 ending.

As we all know DPC doesn't bothers much with male models but he definitely put an efforts in Troy's model. What for? Now we know what for.
Every male model, who DPC put efforts in, plays some role in the story (same as female ofc).
 
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felicemastronzo

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Hmm, maybe I remember wrong, but this whole Maya asking for your help thing is kind of exaggerated a little.
The only time she specifically ask for help is really after the cum-petition. Every other Time the MC is kind of automatically offering her to help .
if you're smoking and I tell you I've run out of cigarettes, then you decide whether or not to offer me a cigarette, but I'm the one who asked you even without doing so

Likewise, when Maya tells you how she needs this free tuition, or how impossible it is for her to complete the scavenger hunt, she is asking for your help.
Yes. If we can't agree on the most simple issues, i have no hope of an agreement in the most complex one. So leave it in that.



Really? Maya is not interested in the MC?
at that point in the story Maya is at most intrigued by MC, but still a committed lesbian girl if she doesn't want to share anything personal should at least say she's not interested, shouldn't she?

Otherwise she's testing the ground, and since if Mc does it he's a horny dog, if Maya does it's not so much better
 
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If you think about it she is the one with a pierced tongue and not Josy, but that just means she was treated so badly in her family she tends to cling to others and do pretty much anything for them as long they accept and comfort her.
This line of yours sounds like Maya is a slut. So, if Quinn really agreed to pay tuition fee or paid it for Maya as in comforting her and asks Her to become a part of restaurant, she will do it happily with a big smile. What you said, was satisfied in this case, Quinn comforted her and Maya did "pretty much anything" for her.

I know that this is not at all what you are trying to say, But look at the misunderstanding it caused, by this you are just insulting Maya's fans....*me included*

Now the main reason why I wrote the Quinn thing was that Maya had her tongue pierced only because of Josy who she loved deeply. She doesn't like Quinn so no, she won't do something like that for Quinn. She won't do anything for MC like that, unless she trusts him. You should express your views here, after all it's a discussion platform but you need to be careful about the words you use.
 

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Good lord, this is going to take me a while to go through... first playthrough lasted almost a week. :eek:

Also, I wonder how many bad jokes about burning to death there are in this thread.
 

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at that point in the story Maya is at most intrigued by MC, but still a committed lesbian girl if she doesn't want to share anything personal should at least say she's not interested, shouldn't she?

Otherwise she's testing the ground, and since if Mc does it he's a horny dog, if Maya does it's not so much better
I am lost. She is intrigued but not interested. Is this some modern argot i dont knoow?.
Couse in my language this has no sense.
 

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That will happen to you when you live under duress. Remember this teenager was being abused and humiliated every single day of his high school life, and paranoia is a pretty common symptom for people living in authoritarian states. It's quite evident his self-loathing for the things he did during incarceration, so I still think it was uncalled to just blow it up by the ending. Don't get me wrong I don't think he should've dated the normal girl (used to be anyway), but Hana was right there my man.

You might be right about the social commentary of the dying Japanese dating market (herbivore men and the like), but I still feel that ending was unfulfilling, just a sad ending where the MC pisses himself in front of both his love interests, while one doesn't acknowledge his feelings, the other is repulsed by his behavior. Just sad overall.
I was team Hana myself. They would have been quite a couple and there clearly was a dynamic between the two. By the way it was a kind of an open ending. No reason to exclude that, somehow, the two got togeter eventually. When Hana boicot the meeting between the Protagonist and the other girl, she was basically setting her territory.
 
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Maya loves MC and we can pinpoint the moment when she had realized it

During first weekend MC tells Maya he is going out on a date with Josy .
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MC asks her if she's jealous and maya gets akward and cute

You can comfort Maya at this point giving her kiss on a cheek and then MC goes out .

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MC goes back inside and she jumps him .
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But it looks like split second before she kisses him she realized she is in relationship already and it's not with MC .

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She composes her self at this point . Probably hoping it's enough to sabotage his date.

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Maya is very underrated character .

I guess someone could argue that this isnt love yet but a crush ,
and it develops into love later (even if MC friendzones her ).
And i'd say that it is a good point . But she went later from crush to love
without almost any effort on MCs part .
I remember while playing this bit and thinking of a scene in friends where Rachel kisses Ross, so he wouldn't forget her during his son's play date with a stripper mom. I was shocked by Maya's aggressiveness, pleasantly might I add.

Starting from now I need an only-Maya-route
Why want chocolate when you can have Chocolate & Vanilla (M&J). But yeah DPC I'M WATCHING NO TOMFOOLERY THIS TIME!

I was team Hana myself. They would have been quite a couple and there clearly was a dynamic between the two. By the way it was a kind of an open ending. No reason to exclude that, somehow, the two got togeter eventually. When Hana boicot the meeting between the Protagonist and the other girl, she was basically setting her territory.
A man can dream. Hopefully, you're right tho.
 
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You are totally right, but I think she still has a long way to go. If you think about it she is the one with a pierced tongue and not Josy, but that just means she was treated so badly in her family she tends to cling to others and do pretty much anything for them as long they accept and comfort her.

Don't get me wrong, I love Maya's character, but that doesn't mean that she can stand on her own, at least for now. Of course slowly but surely she is getting there and I can't wait to see more of her storyline.
We should remember that Josy & Maya's path branches into 2 different stories: when Josy's dad comes to see her you MUST choose to follow Josy or Maya. This is the point where you decide whether Josy comes first or Maya comes first.

I wholeheartedly recommend to save here and create 2 gamesaves: "Maya first" and "Josy first", because there are a few points in which you will have to give preference to Maya over Josy or Josy over Maya.
 

felicemastronzo

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I am lost. She is intrigued but not interested. Is this some modern argot i dont knoow?.
Couse in my language this has no sense.
those are not really synonyms... being interested presupposes a feeling, being curious/intrigued does not.

but then I explained that even if she was interested in MC (I don't think so but it doesn't matter) being a lesbian and committed she would have to dissuade him anyway, not being selfishly silent
 
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